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Really Salinas?

Who are you going to take seriously when the time comes?

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Here's a link to the little overstock problem the military is having
 
I believe its got something to do with surplus military equipment. I'd rather the cops have it than leave it in Afghanistan where some fuck makes money off it.

Oh I dunno, the Russians leaving their transport heli's in Afghanistan worked out pretty well (they crashed them all and killed themselves).
 
Who are you going to take seriously when the time comes?

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We need to think less like teenagers worrying about our looks and more like adults. Heck, one can be intimidating on a bicycle.

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Thats one of those transports designed to survive an IUD explosion. :cool :laughing

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Taxpayer money would better be spent installing lots of IUDs in Salinas. Alas, the Pope disagrees.
 
I don't think Al Queda gives two shits about Salinas :laughing

They'd blow it up but it'd just improve the place.

Does this "major incident" involves IED exploding under SWAT vehicles?

If not, then this MRAP is not needed. Heck LA's gangs are older and tougher and LAPD's SWAP and Metro guys have been kicking ass and taking names without needing MRAPs.

If it does, they're fucked anyway.

The dirty secret of the MRAPs is we spent a fuckton of money on them, and then the usual war of escalation happened. We just taught a bunch of insurgents how to build a better IED, and they became a lot less effective.
 
Does this "major incident" involves IED exploding under SWAT vehicles?

If not, then this MRAP is not needed. Heck LA's gangs are older and tougher and LAPD's SWAP and Metro guys have been kicking ass and taking names without needing MRAPs.

You're right dude, I dunno WTF I was thinking, just do it 'old school' and send 'em out like TJ MF'ing Hooker and they can hide behind the open car door of their Dodge Monaco... :rolleyes

It worked out like a mf'er in the N. Hollywood shootout, clearly no need to give cops access to armored vehicles or the means to defend themselves and the citizens when bad guys go apeshit. Tell the bad guys to stop or you'll call the National Guard... :rolleyes

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You're right dude, I dunno WTF I was thinking, just do it 'old school' and send 'em out like TJ MF'ing Hooker and they can hide behind the open car door of their Dodge Monaco... :rolleyes

It worked out like a mf'er in the N. Hollywood shootout, clearly no need to give cops access to armored vehicles or the means to defend themselves and the citizens when bad guys go apeshit. Tell the bad guys to stop or you'll call the National Guard... :rolleyes

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The "bad guys" in the N. Hollywood shootout didn't belong to any of the gangs you are so scared of. So there goes your story. MRAPs are still not needed.

Standard SWAT equipment would have taken care of these guys (and did). Also the tactics taught to LEOs have greatly changed since then and regular patrol officers are way better armed. I know some of the LAPD officers that responded on that day and some of the tactics used were originally devised by LAPD. Were this kind of shit to happen today, the perps would be neutralized way way faster.

Don't take it the wrong way, but it does not sound like you have had much experience looking into urban law enforcement tactics. Try chasing after perps in MRAPs and see how fast you lose track of them. MRAP is a weapon of war, not suitable for Police duties. But you seem to have made up your mind.
 
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Shootouts and stand offs with armed subjects with rifles happen all the time. Go ahead and advance on a barricaded subject with a rifle on foot, I'll be right behind you :laughing
 
The "bad guys" in the N. Hollywood shootout didn't belong to any of the gangs you are so scared of. So there goes your story. MRAPs are still not needed.

Standard SWAT equipment would have taken care of these guys (and did). Also the tactics taught to LEOs have greatly changed since then and regular patrol officers are way better armed. I know some of the LAPD officers that responded on that day and some of the tactics used were originally devised by LAPD. Were this kind of shit to happen today, the perps would be neutralized way way faster.

Don't take it the wrong way, but it does not sound like you have had much experience looking into urban law enforcement tactics. Try chasing after perps in MRAPs and see how fast you lose track of them. MRAP is a weapon of war, not suitable for Police duties. But you seem to have made up your mind.

Didn't I already bow down to your superior knowledge and admit that I obviously don't know WTF I'm talking about? What else do you want from me???

fwiw, at one point in my life I went quite far down the road to becoming a LEO and some of the factors that unfortunately made me turn back were the shrinking agency sizes, lack of back-up support and overall mediocre equipment for a crisis situation. I've done plenty of ride-alongs (even been handed keys to unlock weapons 'just in case') and for some of the high crime areas it's almost crazy to be a LEO. Sure, for 99% of the police work you might only need a uniform and a flashlight but for those rare situations when things get serious, I'm all in favor for 'overkill' - it's not like anybody suggested ALL regular patrol cars get replaced with BearCats or other MRAPs but I don't see the big deal about having ONE for a SWAT team - you know, the dudes that get called in when things get serious, not 'AAA with guns' writing speeding tickets.

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Shootouts and stand offs with armed subjects with rifles happen all the time. Go ahead and advance on a barricaded subject with a rifle on foot, I'll be right behind you :laughing

Bull shit you will, not unless the guy in front of you is wearing Type IV body armor and even then I know you're smarter than that! :laughing
 
Not really. Just need an aimbot, or be a camper fag.
 
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