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Riding while under the influence of Marijuana.

Riding under the influence of marijuana is:

  • A horrible idea.

    Votes: 392 70.6%

  • Fine as long as you wear a helmet!

    Votes: 28 5.0%

  • Ok, only if you are an experienced rider.

    Votes: 50 9.0%

  • Who cares?

    Votes: 85 15.3%
  • Total voters
    555
Some people said some shit about adrenaline.

That shit is the worst drug ever. After the high wears off, I'm shaky and feel sick.

Riding lightly stoned seems much safer to me that getting hits of adrenaline every 10-20 miles.

But maybe that's just because I like everything to be 100% in control, calm and cool.

If I feel the effects of adrenaline while riding or driving...it's because I messed up.
 
Cheyenne said:
Some people said some shit about adrenaline.

That shit is the worst drug ever. After the high wears off, I'm shaky and feel sick.

Riding lightly stoned seems much safer to me that getting hits of adrenaline every 10-20 miles.

But maybe that's just because I like everything to be 100% in control, calm and cool.

If I feel the effects of adrenaline while riding or driving...it's because I messed up.
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That doesn't mean you should hate adrenaline. It's there to try and help save you when you messed up, and it probably has saved your life already a few times. It probably will in the future, too.

Just because it comes after you mess up doesn't mean it's the problem :|

I want to compare it to Stim Packs in Starcraft :p Sure, they are vicious- they take a chunk out of every Marine's health. But they can help pull the Marine through when he otherwise would have died!

Now, if you we are talking about just taking adrenaline shots as a recreational thing, I totally agree with you. Bad idea, gonna ruin your day. But that shit is made by your body for a reason.
 
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When I was in high school my idea of fun was to take a Geometry test after smoking weed. I usually got an A, sometimes an A+. However, it affected me in a negative way. I was too blind to see it then but, I am older and wiser now.

If you have trouble with riding jitters and weed calms you down, perhaps you are correct, it could be safer but, I doubt it. I believe that you could and would benefit from a different perspective. However, I doubt there is anything I can say that will change your perspective so I won't waste my time.
 
T-1 Thunder said:
Yup.

If it negatively affects the user or anyone else - it's a PROBLEM no matter what it is. This also goes for too much chocolate, too much porn, too much of anything.

Seems to me that most weed smokers don't have the fallout that comes with alcohol. Plenty of them are able to maintain a good productive lifestyle, and their families suffering nothing for it. It's hard to say the same thing about alcohol and other drugs.
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I agree with the first statement, the second, not so much. I've known a few functional alcoholics in my time on this earth. They would fit the description you give of a functional pot smoker. Anything habitual can be dangerous, the more habitual the bigger the risk.
 
KeyMan said:
Anything habitual can be dangerous, the more habitual the bigger the risk.
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Hypothetically, if alcohol and other drugs weren't severely physically harmful (pot isn't proven to be) then they would be ok..
 
Jumping off the Golden Gate bridge is hazardous to your health, though it has not been proven to be.....
 
joespeedfast said:
Of course it has, many, many times. :|
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He chose a terrible example, but he's right- there have been no scientific trials or double-blind tests or placebo tests. As of yet it is not a scientifically proven fact it will kill you!
 
Var said:
Hypothetically, if alcohol and other drugs weren't severely physically harmful (pot isn't proven to be) then they would be ok..
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I really think it's kind of funny that people are assuming pot is unharmful until proven otherwise. It's not like smoke of burning things has a track record of being healthful, there are actually very few kinds of smoke from burning things that won't kill you very quickly. Anything artificial with plasticizers or heavy metals? smoke it, and you'll die real fast. Ton of natural things too- wood smoke kills, and yet wood is organic as hell. Besides dirt and air it's about as organic as it gets.

Really, I mean, I know our country tries to uphold innocent until proven guilty, but pot is a substance not a person, and we have a track record of treating non-human things as dangerous until proven safe. Hence why we didn't suffer from Thalidomide like Europe did.

Put another way, if you didn't know anything about LSD, and somebody said 'you want to try some lysergic acid?' would you try it? even if they assured you no one had found any negative effects yet? I know I sure wouldn't, I know all about acids... That's not to say all acids kill you- there's plenty of useful acids, and your body has plenty in your stomach- but I sure as heck don't trust acids until *proven* otherwise.
 
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But you guys are talking about smoke. I'm talking about pot. You can vaporize your weed or even ingest it. Smoking is a side effect, people smoke hookah and ciggs all the time. Smoke aside, weed doesn't even skim the surface of long term dangers that alcohol and other drugs present. And if you smoke the weed like most people, you add the risk of lung cancer and emphysema which is the same as cigarettes.
 
Var said:
But you guys are talking about smoke. I'm talking about pot. You can vaporize your weed or even ingest it. Smoking is a side effect, people smoke hookah and ciggs all the time. Smoke aside, weed doesn't even skim the surface of long term dangers that alcohol and other drugs present. And if you smoke the weed like most people, you add the risk of lung cancer and emphysema which is the same as cigarettes.
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Yeah, and there sure aren't tons and tons of toxic substances, including plants, that'll kill ya when you ingest them! :laughing

We could go round and round with this, but it boils down to I don't trust funky chemicals that make weird sh*t happen to me until it's been proven I can trust them. "I tried some and I seem fine" is not proof, either.
 
sliverstorm said:
we have a track record of treating non-human things as dangerous until proven safe.
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:laughing

OK, sure. Right after everyone is done with the ephedrine and creatine, plasticizers, secret food flavor additives, preservatives, genetically engineered crops, pain meds that give you heart attacks and strokes, yada yada...

The testing we do on compounds is hardly conclusive.
 
I wonder how a pot brownie a day compares to a beer a day.

The beer is known to be beneficial, with more positive research being released all the time. The pot...I don't know about that.
 
Aluisious said:
I wonder how a pot brownie a day compares to a beer a day.

The beer is known to be beneficial, with more positive research being released all the time. The pot...I don't know about that.
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The sugar content alone in the brownie makes it not good for you.
 
just burned a fat one and im about to go for a ride!!



ahh f-it..im just going to sit on the sofa.
 
sliverstorm said:
Yeah, and there sure aren't tons and tons of toxic substances, including plants, that'll kill ya when you ingest them! :laughing

We could go round and round with this, but it boils down to I don't trust funky chemicals that make weird sh*t happen to me until it's been proven I can trust them. "I tried some and I seem fine" is not proof, either.
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You don't have to trust weed. I'm not saying it's not harmful, just not as bad as alcohol in larger doses, which is legal. That's all. Health effects aside, I also believe that it CAN be safe to drive under the influence of pot depending on how much you smoked and how experienced you are with the stuff.
 
joespeedfast said:
Nobody with any lick of sense believes that smoking anything is harmless. Those without don not count.
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Its not whether it is harmful or harmless.....it is if the juice is worth the squeeze....and for me, the squeeze of mary is a little gentler than the sauce when I want some downtime for the brain...plus, I like the "juice" better from mary. I'm not as mellow as I used to be and I prefer to expose that side of my personality instead of the evil :staRang side....hahahaha.

Taking a deep breath in downtown LA is pretty harmful if ya think about it. Did you know that eating a bar of choclolate will kill more brain cells than smoking a joint??? Pound for pound I remember reading that caffiene and the way it addicts you is quite possibly the worst drug of all.....

UK did some very interesting studies on driving under the influence of marijuana....any of those scenarios I take with a grain of salt....but you would be surprised by the results....I'll try and dig up some info on the articles and results.

FTR....i do not smoke and ride or drink and ride.....sometimes I'll have a beer or two then ride home later....others I'll have a pull or two from a joint then hours later be on the bike....but I don't ride right after or while smoking or drinking.
 
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