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RIP Anonomous Squid on Highway 17

c BSKIT7 said:
Let me ask you Rob, why did you go into the corner to hot? Going at little to fast? Corner came up to quick? Didn't know the road? What ever the reason, Shit happens and you had the knowledge and capability to get out of trouble. I believe your a good rider and what I'm saying is it's tough for some riders to resist the turning of the right wrist. You have never pushed your RC51? Not once when leaving a stop light? Not once when a cager was on your ass and you needed room? Not once when you were in the car pool lane? Come on....Rob
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I went in too hot because I got distracted and spaced out for a second.

Believe me, there have been times I've pushed my bikes to their limits. I really didn't want to put the foot of hypocracy in my mouth any further in this thread with some stupid remark like "do as I say, not as I do," but since you asked... On that very same ride on the way to Santa Cruz on Highway 1, I got well into triple digits on a long straight that was unusually absent of cars in either direction. I take risks...but calculated ones. Banzai blasts like that, even ones where I have lots of visibility are still risky. But not as risky at kneedragging turns in the twisties, in my opinion. I have dragged the bike before at Sears Point, but not at a stoplight. I hardly ever am on one wheel. I take my risks like everyone, but I puss out when my chances of survival are down to a coin flip with behaivor like the rider who died.
 
TheRobSJ said:
I went in too hot because I got distracted and spaced out for a second.

Believe me, there have been times I've pushed my bikes to their limits.
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You mean YOUR limits...the bikes limits are only attainable by a small number of people. If you are one of them you should look into professional racing.
 
I have had the pleasure of taking several cars and bikes to their drag limited top speeds in controlled and unfortunately, uncontrolled environments. I was willing to go faster, but the vehicle had reached it's limit.
 
Not on the twisties. Oh I've definitely broken the speed limit on all the roads on the hill, but never treated the twisties like I'm trying for a lap record.

All of my "pushing" has been in total straight lines.
 
Well written post, Rob, although I dont want to minimize the young mans life which was so tragically ended on a crowded hiway....
So sad...I feel for the loved ones left behind.....
As for pushing the limits.......All of us that truly love to ride do that as often as we dare and I am as guilty as the next guy.
The reality of it is not in his choice of gear....nor his lack of fear...
He rolled the dice and lost....No do-overs in the world of street riding. Sorry you had to be there and I know you really do want to wake up those who ride with abandon on public roads.Thank you for a very well written post and I hope we meet on the road someday..
a1scoot
 
The lack of gear just reflects the carefree attitude towards riding responsibly. That's what I'm thinking. All these Harley guys with their sleeveless vests and bare minimum psuedo-DOT approved brain buckets invoke the same reaction from me with their 150db exhausts pissing off everyone who doesn't feel like hearing their bike and their gonna rap their engine anyways. Instead of lack of gear and doing wheelies in traffic, they have lack of gear and probably in the minds of some motorists, deafening traffic. They just have their own world and don't really care what's right for the image of motorcyclists as a whole.

But yeah, in this particular crash, no amount of gear would have saved his life...so it's really a moot point. But the carefree riding attitude was still there, and that's what really did him in.
 
fr0ng said:
You mean YOUR limits...the bikes limits are only attainable by a small number of people. If you are one of them you should look into professional racing.
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Sami, Don't say this. It's just a stupid statement that has little to no meaning...

A 300 lb person could take a 600 to it's limits quite fast.
 
Holeshot said:
Sami, Don't say this. It's just a stupid statement that has little to no meaning...

A 300 lb person could take a 600 to it's limits quite fast.
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So how come Rossi can lap me like 10 times in 1 session at any given track if we both rode the exact same bike?
 
TheRobSJ said:

Believe me, there have been times I've pushed my bikes to their limits.
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right.........an rc51 to its limits......right. no offense but i think if you could really push a rc to the limits i'd be seeing you @ more AFM, or even AMA races. you may think you have, but you're probably not even close. thats 1 of the reason i still have the f2, the day i can turn the kind of times duhamel turned on my bike back in 94 then i'll get something faster. why is it that everybody always thinks they're pushing the bikes???
 
elskipador said:
right.........an rc51 to its limits......right. no offense but i think if you could really push a rc to the limits i'd be seeing you @ more AFM, or even AMA races. you may think you have, but you're probably not even close. thats 1 of the reason i still have the f2, the day i can turn the kind of times duhamel turned on my bike back in 94 then i'll get something faster. why is it that everybody always thinks they're pushing the bikes???
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I thought I was riding near my limits on the roads...then I hit up a few trackdays and realized my street pace is my warmuplap pace lol
 
fr0ng said:
I thought I was riding near my limits on the roads...then I hit up a few trackdays and realized my street pace is my warmuplap pace lol
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and your race-pace is somebody elses warm up lap :twofinger :laughing
 
Well hell....
I also ride my Harley with a sleeveless vest and a beanie so I guess I have the wrong attitude about gear and must be a problem to the riding community as well Rob......
Sorry to hear that....
Guess my 31 years of street riding was all in vain...
Maybe we cant throw people in catagories we dont understand.
a1scoot:cool
 
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elskipador said:
right.........an rc51 to its limits......right. no offense but i think if you could really push a rc to the limits i'd be seeing you @ more AFM, or even AMA races. you may think you have, but you're probably not even close. thats 1 of the reason i still have the f2, the day i can turn the kind of times duhamel turned on my bike back in 94 then i'll get something faster. why is it that everybody always thinks they're pushing the bikes???
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I did not say I push it all the time. I said, "there have been times I've pushed my bikes to their limits." I am never willing to see the limits of my bike leaned over though a turn on a public road. The danger exceeds my level of comfort. But if I have a bike pinned in 6th gear on a nice flat, straight road (or airstrip in one case) till it can't go any faster...is that not the bikes limit for straightline speed? Last time I checked, top speed does meet the definition of a "limit."

a1scoot said:
Well hell....
I also ride my Harley with a sleeveless vest and a beanie so I guess I have the wrong attitude about gear and must be a problem to the riding community as well Rob......
Sorry to hear that....
Guess my 31 years of street riding was all in vain...
Maybe we cant throw people in catagories we dont understand.
a1scoot:cool
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I sure can judge. I once upon a time rode cruisers too. And even though it didn't look the part, I insisted on a full face helmet and a proper jacket and gloves. Just because it's a Harley doesn't mean it's no longer a motorcycle that's subject to the same dangers any any other type of bike. A cager can always still not see you, and turn left directly in front of you. That split second before you have top lay your 800 lbs of Harley down on the road and your body with it, I bet all that "freedom" and "live to ride, ride to live" no gear mentality won't seem like such a good "catagory" to be in after all.
 
I would'nt count on your gear alone to keep you safe...
Experience and skill would do much better.
I'm not knocking good gear here Rob....
Just figure maybe its up to the rider to decide and your opinions are just that....Yours.
It must be nice to be perfect AND odor free!
a1scoot:twofinger
 
Nah. I just had to drop a deuce in that sorry ass porta potty at the gas station across the street from Alice's today. Even with the blue water, it still does indeed stink.

And with that, I think this thread ought to die. It's been sidebusted from a man getting killed to bowel movements.
 
TheRobSJ said:
I did not say I push it all the time. I said, "there have been times I've pushed my bikes to their limits." I am never willing to see the limits of my bike leaned over though a turn on a public road. The danger exceeds my level of comfort. But if I have a bike pinned in 6th gear on a nice flat, straight road (or airstrip in one case) till it can't go any faster...is that not the bikes limit for straightline speed? Last time I checked, top speed does meet the definition of a "limit."
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Handling limits perhaps?
 
I hate having to quote myself because people don't comprehend what they read. But one more time...

TheRobSJ said:
I am never willing to see the limits of my bike leaned over though a turn on a public road.
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TheRobSJ said:
I did not say I push it all the time. I said, "there have been times I've pushed my bikes to their limits." I am never willing to see the limits of my bike leaned over though a turn on a public road. The danger exceeds my level of comfort. But if I have a bike pinned in 6th gear on a nice flat, straight road (or airstrip in one case) till it can't go any faster...is that not the bikes limit for straightline speed? Last time I checked, top speed does meet the definition of a "limit."
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point taken, i thought you meant over all limits
 
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