Road Rage ,,what to do?

[GetaGripGreg]

I recently had a somewhat similar experience where the truck driver followed me no matter what turn I took. Not knowing what kind of lunatic he was, and not knowing if he had a .45 under his seat, I went for the nearest cop and got the SOB pulled over.

He denied everything, and the cops offered to book him on my report of tailgating. I declined.

Unless you are ready to go to court and swear that this guy tried to kill you, calling the cops really won't accomplish much aside from further pissing the guy off. If I were you, I would try and forget the incident while also keeping an eye out for the suspect. If you spot him in traffic again, either give him space or follow him and kill him. Your call.

IMO, attempting vigilante justice is just asking to get bitchslapped by our notoriously unfair legal system. You fuck up his truck or kick his ass, and then find yourself in jail for assault or vandalism.

I keep my eyes peeled for that red Jeep Cherokee, and if he harasses me again, I'm going haul ass. The cops already have a record of my complaint, they know his name, and they know where he lives. There's no reason for macho hysterics.

 

[thump]

I can only guess Sun Tzu would have said something like that. I don't know why I should know that...

I don't know why you would know that either, I just made it up to tease Alan

Sounded very convincing though, no?

 

[FreaK]

If it was me I wouldn't go starting a war and end up in jail lol. But I would say something to the prick. The not on the truck would be ok.

 

[ryanrs]

there was a truck with a flat tire that he stopped for in the middle of the road, I parked my bike in front of his car and made him roll the window down and gave him my two cents worth after I booted in his fender

You're lucky he was stupid. A smarter person would have yelled for help and then dropped the clutch and taken out your bike. Then they'd immediately call the police and say you had threatened them: "I stopped to help this guy with a flat and this crazy biker attacked my car! I was really scared, I thought it was a car jacking! He said I cut him off 10 minutes ago, but he must've come after the wrong guy!"

There was exactly one witness... the guy in the truck. That guy will confirm the assault, etc. After the cops arrest you, you can tell them the cager deserved it for making a dangerous pass. How would that go down in court?


You need to be far more sneaky and evil these days. "Hello, police? There's a white civic southbound 280 license XXX. He was driving really erratically and almost hit me! When he passed I saw the driver was snorting something from a little metal tin." Remeber, don't say booze or weed. Choose something harder to test in the field...

 

[1nsanity]

Decision, decision... should I kill him or love him. Def. hate love relationship here. Think before you do anything and remeber there will be reprecussions... whether good or bad is debatale. Sometimes there ar no easy answers.

 

[hotdog]

Grabbed from http://www.takushi.de/milkchickenbomb.html
Seems like a good nonviolent way to get back at people to me.

First, you're going to need some chicken and milk (the older the better) - and nonne of that nonfat shit. You want the thick, whole milk. Then, you're going to need a jar - ( an empty mayonnaise jar works just fine). Now, here's what You do: Cram the chicken into the jar, fill it up with milk and cap it off. Tighten it up good - you don't want any unexpected spills. Now it's time for the 'stash'. the warmer the place, the better. Personally, I suggest a heat vent, where it will stay nice and warm (plus, every time the heater turns on, t5he stench will get blown all over the place). Choosing the hiding spot is very important, because the Chicken Milk Bomb takes three to four weeks to 'blow up'. Eventually, the lid will pop off or the glass will break - either way, when that shit blows, out comes the most rancid of smells, that will make even the strongest of stomachs churn. What's more, the smell that is emitted doesn't just go away; it lingers around as a constant reminder. So don't just go tossing them in your friend's house as a practical joke. However, should you be evicted from your house, it's a great way to srew your landlord.

that's sick!!

 

[kneeSparX]

messing with a mans vehicle is the pussy way to go, just beat his ass, if hes bigger, or you dont fight, just use something

 

[Lesbusa]

I would agree with the 'turn the other cheek' folks if it was something that you could chalk up to accidental or clueless, but this guy seems like he is doing it deliberately and even maliciously.

If you don't at least call the cops, and he misjudges the distance he can swerve at the next bike and takes a rider out it might just be because you let him slide on it this time. How much would it suck if you saw the same truck on the news because it was at a fatal accident scene?

I wouldn't say I'm an really hard line kind of guy, but I'm sick of the , let it go, it's not my fault, why can't everyone just get along' attitude. I think one of the reasons people are as crappy to eachother as they can be is because we have fewer and fewer consequences. Sure, I'd like to think that everyone has a bit of niceness in them somewhere, and I give people the benefit of the doubt when I can. But once they prove me wrong, and show themselves to be jerks I don't try to explain it away by looking at how they were raised, if they had a bad day...

So this is a case where a guy apparently intentionally swerved to scare or hit a fellow rider... not accidentally... and the people here want to let him slide?

I'm not recommending the beat down strategy, and I don't really believe in the self motivation of the police. However I do think if you give them enough grief, keep following up, and doing some footwork to get things moving that eventually they will get the message and maybe get the job done. But let this guy do it to another rider? Come on!!!

I agree with the above.

We as a community need to be more proactive about this issue and less reactive. I think this type of incedent should be reported every time the drivers information can be collected. If you are in the position of getting the guys information without endangering yoursef then you owe it to yourself and your fellow riders to file a complaint. It may not bring action against this guy this time but it may be relavent in a future situation with another biker. One of the reasons that this type of behavior continues to be a problem is that there is no legal payback. Motorcycle rights seem to be on the bottom of everyones agenda. It will take the death of a well known person on a bike due to road rage to galvanize public opinion in our favor.

 

[Max Smiley]

best to avoid confrontation but turn that sucker in somehow. I'm the worst person regarding road rage and that's very bad. a little 5150 in all of us? keep yourselves alive out there.

 

[ironbeak]

Take a breath, and look at the bigger picture.

Unfortunately, unless you plan on killing this guy, any retaliation will likely contribute to making him an even bigger asshole - One who will be even more aggressive toward riders in addition to everyone else.

His problem is obviously that he has an anger issue, lack of self control, and very little respect for others.

Agreed, it would feel momentarily wonderful to hammer this guy's face into a bloody pulp, but I wouldn't. I have before, and it's never as rewarding as you would wish. Best to step out of the "circle of hate" at your earliest convenience. If everyone took this philosophy, the world would be a much nicer place to live.

 

[NoGall]

Know your enemy, understand his behaviour, his strengths, his weaknesses and vanquish him without engaging in battle. (quote from some old warrior bastard somewhere or other, Scorp would probably know who).

Back away from the Chinese fortune cookies.
You two have had enough...

 

[markster]

Here is what the CHP public affars had to say about your incident

"Public Affairs" <PublicAffairs@chp.ca.gov>
Re: question, road rage


Thank you for writing the CHP. "Road rage" or aggressive driving is not a section or violation of law. It is a term to describe a behavior. The moving violations involved in these types of behavior range from multiple infractions such as unsafe lane changes, following too close and speeding, to assault with a deadly weapon (vehicle). Additional charges may apply depending on the circumstances specific to the incident.

If you encounter driving which endangers you and/or the motoring public, please call 911 immediately. Under no circumstances, endanger yourself or other motorists. Get the best possible description and provide it to the law enforcement agency you contact. If you have any further questions or concerns, please contact your local CHP office.

 

[Dar25]

i think cops will make a move on this issue if they have multiple complaints from different people on the same offender.

Like it both of you guys would file complains (or even find another rider/withness), they will go after a guy.

A few years ago i had an incident with a-hole driver with p. of .sh car try to drive me off the road after i passed him. I call ed the cops and gave them license and description and they said they already had something (another complaint) on that vehicle and would put a search alert for him.

 

[Moike]

Take a breath, and look at the bigger picture.

Unfortunately, unless you plan on killing this guy, any retaliation will likely contribute to making him an even bigger asshole - One who will be even more aggressive toward riders in addition to everyone else.

And if you don't do something. There's a good chance he'll just
keep trying to run down motorcyclists till he finally gets one.

You're damned if you do, and damned if you don't.

If this was Texas, you could use the 'He needed killin' rule.

-Mike-

 

[xmasons]

Julius Long

"Julius Long and another motorcyclist, Ken Collins met for a ride at the Horse Shoe Coffee House on Christmans Eve last year. As the two were riding on Skyline Blvd in Daly City an altercation between Julius and the driver of a full sized pickup truck occured. At the intersection of Skyline and Westmoor the pickup driver purposefully swerved hard into Julius, knocking him off of his KTM Duke and running him over. Julius died instantly, at the age of 50 in a senseless act of road rage.

So it was pretty clear what occured. These two were in a heated argument but only one had the potential to kill the other. Bowen choose to use this weapon and killed Julius! It's one thing to feel like killing someone and it's another to actually do it. No one is the winner here. We've lost a friend and I'm sure Bowen's life is never going to be the same.

Gerald Bowen has pleaded guilty to misdemeanor manslaughter which carries a maximum of 1 year jail time. He has agreed to the 1 year jail time with an additional 3 year probation."

Julius is still dead.

 

[Xenophonii]

Three words...

Chicken Milk Bomb

Do a websearch if you don't know what that is.

Nonviolent, non property destroying, takes four to six
weeks to 'go off', and works like creeping death.
Where you place it is totally up to you since you know
what he drives and where he lives.

Instant Chunder.

-Mike-

That's priceless!

I can't imagine how bad that would smell

 

[Xenophonii]

Well put. In my experience the vehicle most likely to want to have a go at you in any kind of road rage / conflict / dispute over road space situations are trucks.

Not the rusty, contractors' I-need-to-haul-stuff-for-work kind of truck, but the shiny, black I-drive-this-because-I-can-intimidate-other-roadusers kind of truck.

Know your enemy, understand his behaviour, his strengths, his weaknesses and vanquish him without engaging in battle. (quote from some old warrior bastard somewhere or other, Scorp would probably know who).

i.e. ride around the fucker and enjoy your day

Or suck him into a nasty turn and watch his ass panic

 

[Max Smiley]

wow, thanks for the reminder xmasons. haven't thought of Julius in a long time.

R.I.P.


road rage just ain't worth the trouble.

 

[ScorpioVI]

Know your enemy, understand his behaviour, his strengths, his weaknesses and vanquish him without engaging in battle. (quote from some old warrior bastard somewhere or other, Scorp would probably know who).

Tom Cruise (The Last Samurai)???

 

[tony]

We, as sports bikers, need a high profile 'biker boys/torque/hell's angels' club out there. Hell that's why nobody cuts off or taunts choppers - fear of retribution - the wrath of stereotypical middle aged surly meth fiend mobsters piling out of the backwoods to burn your village down. All we've got that even comes close is the harmless, amusing, and, at worst, self-destructive antics of stunters.

I'm not volunteering, or advocating mayhem and hooliganism, just suggesting that maybe a little media pranking would get the average sport biker a little respect.


Burn his house down, eat his domestic pets, and amputate his thumbs and big toes - just to send a message. He'll be moaning on every talk show this side of Britain about the 'evil sportbike gang'.

(LEO disclaimer: all above statements are satyr)