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Rossi, what else?

mjrydsfast

mjrydsfast

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Doohan says Rossi is unbeatable on any bike, Mamola has recently ridden both bikes and thinks Rossi won't repeat. Both made strong supporting arguments. Comments? Questions? Praise? Slander?:nerd
 
Rossi

I agree with Mamola and think that he will not repeat. So watch for Hayden and Edwards to kick some ass and don't forget about Sete!:teeth
 
Rossi is good, but not good enough to fight off Honda's dream team. It's easy to win when your great and on a better bike than everyone else, totally different when your great but have to fight a swarm of almost as great riders on a better bike than you. I expect the best duals are going to be between Edwards and Biaggi.
 
i think it's hard to say until we see how rossi fairs on the yamaha bike....is he going to be using the same bike that yamaha has right now?
 
rossi will have limited time on the yamaha with no testing in december per FIM rules and the race season starting in april. that's only 3 1/2 months to get the bike up to speed. We will see if the yamaha can get going but if he has problems it's going to be a learning year for him and the team. I would expect him to do better the following year. Then again the compitetion will improve also.
 
The RCV turns mediocre riders into good rider, good riders into very good riders and great riders into the "Greatest Rider of All Time" (Rossi)...........Don't get me wrong, I think Rossi is the best rider today but the RCV had a big part in it.

Rossi had some great performances this year when he would make a mistake and fall from 1st/2nd to 7-10th and somehow get back on the podium......no way that was all Rossi....his bike was something special also.

Look what the RCV has done for Barros late last year when he won a couple, then Barros hops on an M-1 and wasn't neary as impressive.....fact is he's back to being mediocre again. Back on the RCV again for 04, he'll be just as good or better than Sete.

Sete is another example of a mediocre GP career that got good once he got a RCV.........after Kato's tragic crash in Japan.....Sete got Kato's bike which was rumored to be the second best RCV out there......Did Sete just all of a sudden become that much better of a rider?.......I don't believe so.

I think Rossi may struggle early and he may crash more cause he'll reach the limit of that bike much earlier than with the RCV. If Rossi/Yamaha get things sorted out, he'll battle for the podium again.

I do hope that the Rossi/Yamaha thing works out though cause I'm tired of the Honda dominance in this class as much as I hate the Ducati Dominance of SBK.

I want to see all of the bike brands have a chance at the podium.....

My predictions as of today (Cause it changes daily):

1- Edwards
2- Bayliss
3- Rossi
4- Hayden
5- Biagi
 
veefereefer said:

Rossi had some great performances this year when he would make a mistake and fall from 1st/2nd to 7-10th and somehow get back on the podium......no way that was all Rossi....his bike was something special also.
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Are you kidding. Are you forgetting that most times (except for Catalunya) all the people Rossi caught up to were ridding the same bike (Sete, Biaggi and Hayden all ride the same RCV more or less).

Following your argument; you are saying that Rossi's bike was 10 to 15 seconds better than everybody else. 1 second is a lifetime on a race track, imagine 10 to 15 seconds.

Fine, I agree the Honda is a great bike, maybe one of the best bikes ever (better than anything in the past), but please don't dismiss Rossi as "He is better because his bike was that much better".

No one ever has won the 125cc, 250cc, 500cc and MotoGP championships (nobody will ever be able to either, because the 500cc bikes are no longer run).

Also, remember the 2000 season. Rossi almost won the championship on his FIRST year. There aren't too many people that come into the 500cc championship and finish second on their first year (King Kenny won it, but he too is one of the greatest).

Lastly, Rossi has a lot of balls. Why didn’t mighty Mick switch to Yamaha when he raced? I’m not saying Mick wouldn’t have won on Yamaha, but I’m saying he didn’t so we’ll never know. Rossi on the other hand is at least taking that gamble. While I can safely say that Rossi will not come and start winning right away, I have seen Rossi race enough times to know that he can do things on a bike that people only dream of. He can squeeze that extra 10th of a second almost on command. Imagine what he will be able to do now that he wants to prove to everybody that it’s not the bike, but the rider.

Don’t bet against Rossi, you’ll never win.
 
im hypin Sete , colin,and hayden .... Rossi will have to work big time .. to bring that yamaha up to speed .....
 
You guys live in a dream world :twofinger

1. ROSSI
2. gibinau
3. hayden
 
04 is shaping up to be a dream season with any number of the Honda riders being able to stand on the podium, Rossi potentially bringing the Yamaha there, and continued improvement expected from the Ducs... with more on the podium.

Why is everyone discounting Sete?
 
97rr,

I watch the same races as you do, the only difference is I don't really root for any particular rider.

I don't belieave that all of the RCV are the same. Even Hayden's RCV is down on power compared with Rossi's. It was very obvious at Phillips Island. And their on the same team.




Following your argument; you are saying that Rossi's bike was 10 to 15 seconds better than everybody else. 1 second is a lifetime on a race track, imagine 10 to 15 seconds.
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So your saying that Rossi is 10 to 15 seconds better than everybody else? What I'm saying is that he is the best rider on the best bike and that combination equals the 10-15 seconds.

Fine, I agree the Honda is a great bike, maybe one of the best bikes ever (better than anything in the past), but please don't dismiss Rossi as "He is better because his bike was that much better".
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I don't recall saying that........I do believe that Rossi's RCV is the BEST GP BIKE EVER. I don't dimiss Rossi, he is the best rider of this century!



Also, remember the 2000 season. Rossi almost won the championship on his FIRST year. There aren't too many people that come into the 500cc championship and finish second on their first year (King Kenny won it, but he too is one of the greatest).
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I remember.......And I agree.........Do you remember the crashes early on before he got the bike setup to his liking?



Lastly, Rossi has a lot of balls. Why didn’t mighty Mick switch to Yamaha when he raced? I’m not saying Mick wouldn’t have won on Yamaha, but I’m saying he didn’t so we’ll never know. Rossi on the other hand is at least taking that gamble. While I can safely say that Rossi will not come and start winning right away, I have seen Rossi race enough times to know that he can do things on a bike that people only dream of. He can squeeze that extra 10th of a second almost on command. Imagine what he will be able to do now that he wants to prove to everybody that it’s not the bike, but the rider.
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I like what Rossi is doing.......It does take a large sack to leave your comfort zone and go to the unknown.

97rr, nice to converse with you and keep those article coming!
 
Is everyone forgetting the massive leads Rossi put on other riders on similar bikes, or his fantatical work ethic when it comes to testing? Also, just a thought, anyone remember when Barros and Capirossi were right on Vale's ass? I do, and with Barros going to HRC next year and Loris having another year of testing with Ducati, I'd go Vale, Loris, with either nicky or barros in third. Colin is an awesome rider, but I think it's been proven that even on the "easier" to ride V5's, it takes time to switch bikes and teams (dont' forget Rossi took nearly his whole team to yamaha with him!).
 
hoax said:
1. Biaggi
2. Edwards
3. Bayliss
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I really don't know and so I'm really asking this as a question... Bayliss above Capirossi? Am I smokin' something or didn't Capirossi have a better year this year than Bayliss?

Reasoning for Bayliss being #3 then?
 
veefereefer said:

97rr, nice to converse with you and keep those article coming!
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Good points.

I guess next season will come soon enough. Many things can and will happen.
 
christofu said:
I really don't know and so I'm really asking this as a question... Bayliss above Capirossi? Am I smokin' something or didn't Capirossi have a better year this year than Bayliss?

Reasoning for Bayliss being #3 then?
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I too, aren't sure that I would place Bayliss above Capirossi. However I think the reasoning may be that Bayliss did very well and it was only his first season in MotoGP.

I guess if you look at his first WSBK season and compare, you could argue that next year he could take a couple of wins (the championship will be much more difficult than it was in 2001).

But I agree, I'm not sure I would take Bayliss over Capirex.
 
I think next season will be nuts....but why is everyone so fast to rule out ducati?
 
Edwards
Rossi
Hayden

I am a homee :teeth

I truly believe Edwards will rise to the top.
I truly believe Rossi is the most talented racing today.
I truly believe Hayden will continue to improve.
I truly believe the Ducati's will win plenty, but not enough.

I truly miss watching Americans dice with each other for the Championship...the great years of Schwantz vs. Rainey
Roberts Vs. Spencer... I want more!

There are so many very talented guys in MotoGP..that luck will always play a part.

:smoking
 
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