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San Jose PD recruiting commercial: A little weird?

What's funny is that almost every single older SJPD officer that I talk to has told me they are leaving and moving to other departments in the bay area due to the massive effective pay cut they took. With this many people leaving... they have to do something to make working for the SJPD look good.
 
Gragorin said:
What's funny is that almost every single older SJPD officer that I talk to has told me they are leaving and moving to other departments in the bay area due to the massive effective pay cut they took. With this many people leaving... they have to do something to make working for the SJPD look good.
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It's still a six figure job with a very generous retirement plan. If they can't find bodies to fill the open positions it tells me they've set the qualifications too high. Policing has become too expensive in its present form and something's got to change.
 
mlm said:
It's still a six figure job with a very generous retirement plan. If they can't find bodies to fill the open positions it tells me they've set the qualifications too high. Policing has become too expensive in its present form and something's got to change.
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Not anymore its not. I believe the last graduating class had 1/3 of its new officers turn in their notice and sign with other departments that aren't large enough to have their own academies and have much better pay and benefits. Thanks for paying for their academy Chuck Reed! That man is single handily crippling his city
 
Antarius said:
The weird part is that they don't show the other side of the job, where you're dealing with people and working with (not against) people in the city.
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This is what I was referring to.

bojangle said:
Is it OK to recruit for the military using adventure / excitement themes but not for a police department? There is plenty of adventure and excitement to be had in you own backyard working for a local police department. It seems like they are trying to recruit from a generation that loves those types of video games, etc.
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I hear you, but for police I don't think it is right. I think the militarization of the police force is kind of scary, and it is only necessary in a very small part of the job. They are promoting only that. How often is a normal officer involved in a swat type operation in full tactical gear?

You also aren't going to see a lot of military ads where they are actually engaging a "bad guy". They tend to play down you almost got into a firefight aspect, where is that all that this is focusing on.

The getting bad guy off the streets is sort of downplayed and the gear and tactical forces ghost recon battlefield shit takes front and center. It just doesn't sit right with me I guess, and as I said would seem to draw the wrong personality type...
 
bojangle said:
Is it OK to recruit for the military using adventure / excitement themes but not for a police department?
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Yes.

The military uses force against foreigners. Police use it against us (guilty AND innocent).

What % of time does the average cop do the activities depicted in those ads? I would prefer a little more accuracy. Police aren't Rangers or SEALS.
 
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Antarius said:
The weird part is that they don't show the other side of the job, where you're dealing with people and working with (not against) people in the city.
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…and this is the problem. From day one they recruit the wrong type of people. A small percentage of police officers are SWAT. But everyone who resounds to this video will have that mentality.
 
moto vader said:
…and this is the problem. From day one they recruit the wrong type of people. A small percentage of police officers are SWAT. But everyone who resounds to this video will have that mentality.
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Gonna go clean up the streets with a gun and a badge, and everyone who disagrees is criminal scum.
 
Reli said:
Yes.

The military uses force against foreigners. Police use it against us (guilty AND innocent).

What % of time does the average cop do the activities depicted in those ads? I would prefer a little more accuracy. Police aren't Rangers or SEALS.
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Most cops don't get to fire their weapons during their careers.
 
The recruitment ad should've been more realistic. Instead of some crazy old white guy about to shoot up his garage, they should've featured norteno gangs members about to go hunting for scraps… :twofinger
 
How about recruiting them with a message of and getting to know the people of the city and its neighborhoods, and making the city welcoming, open and safe? Would that appeal to adrenaline addicted young men? Nope, but I don't want those guys on the force to begin with. I'd rather get people who got laid off in the latest teachers cuts, and for whom this represents a major raise and another way to help their community.
 
ohio said:
How about recruiting them with a message of and getting to know the people of the city and its neighborhoods, and making the city welcoming, open and safe? Would that appeal to adrenaline addicted young men? Nope, but I don't want those guys on the force to begin with. I'd rather get people who got laid off in the latest teachers cuts, and for whom this represents a major raise and another way to help their community.
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But that would give the bad guys the impression they weren't "tough on crime" :rolleyes
 
It's fine to me. At least they aren't advertising the money they pay. I'd prefer people who want adventure, action and actually love what they do over greedy people who are just in it for the paycheck.

Look at the Army's commercials! Why wouldn't it be appropriate for a P.D.?
 
jh2586 said:
It's fine to me. At least they aren't advertising the money they pay. I'd prefer people who want adventure, action and actually love what they do over greedy people who are just in it for the paycheck.

Look at the Army's commercials! Why wouldn't it be appropriate for a P.D.?
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I prefer greedy people who are in it for the paycheck who don't have their finger on the trigger. But that's just me.
 
mlm said:
It's still a six figure job with a very generous retirement plan. If they can't find bodies to fill the open positions it tells me they've set the qualifications too high. Policing has become too expensive in its present form and something's got to change.
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Not so much with how much comes out of their checks now a days, with drastic draconian cuts on the horizon if measure B is fully implemented. They won't be able to afford to live in the city. They're already having a massive exodus from their city, and your answer is to cut salaries even further and lower qualifications? Brilliant! BTW, what do you do for a living? Ho about you cut your salary first?

vato_loco said:
The recruitment ad should've been more realistic. Instead of some crazy old white guy about to shoot up his garage, they should've featured norteno gangs members about to go hunting for scraps… :twofinger
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Yeah, but they can't be realistic. That would be racist...or so it would be claimed by those with a vested interest.

ohio said:
How about recruiting them with a message of and getting to know the people of the city and its neighborhoods, and making the city welcoming, open and safe? Would that appeal to adrenaline addicted young men? Nope, but I don't want those guys on the force to begin with. I'd rather get people who got laid off in the latest teachers cuts, and for whom this represents a major raise and another way to help their community.
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The ideal candidate has to be well rounded. I totally hear what you're saying regarding the other qualities. They are definitely important. It is also crucial that the civic community minded person who is possibly a laid off teacher that is motivated to make the city a better place to live, also have what it takes to think on their feet, work under pressure in a dangerous high stress environment, and have the ability to bring order from chaos, remain calm during a pursuit, and remain level headed when enforcing the law, to include using all levels of force to effect arrests, prevent escape, and overcome resistance. The job is vastly different from an office cubicle job. Not everyone has what it takes to be a police officer. If one can't work well under adrenaline they won't do well in this career and might not make it through the training process in the first place.
 
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