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San Jose PD recruiting commercial: A little weird?

SummerLove said:
Eh.. advertising that reinforces police a paramilitary organization is not so great.
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But police are paramilitary organizations. Should recruiting efforts attempt to portray the job as something else? A significant percentage of officers will leave the force with disability retirements before they ever make a full career. The dangers are real. :dunno
 
bojangle said:
...have what it takes to think on their feet, work under pressure in a dangerous high stress environment, and have the ability to bring order from chaos, remain calm during a pursuit, and remain level headed when enforcing the law, to include using all levels of force to effect arrests, prevent escape, and overcome resistance.
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Dude, have you ever been in an elementary school classroom? Teachers would be perfect. :laughing :twofinger
 
bojangle said:
Not so much with how much comes out of their checks now a days, with drastic draconian cuts on the horizon if measure B is fully implemented. They won't be able to afford to live in the city. They're already having a massive exodus from their city, and your answer is to cut salaries even further and lower qualifications? Brilliant! BTW, what do you do for a living? Ho about you cut your salary first?
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What I do for a living doesn't matter, but if I add what I contribute to 401k and FICA it comes out around 18% and that doesn't give me as good a deal as the revised police pension. And even with a base salary of 80K, it seems the norm to have overtime bumping it to 6 figures. And 96 hours of bankable sick pay? Might be normal for cops but not for most others.

But I didnt comment on this post to get into an argument about individual officer salaries. My comment was that existing police costs are unaffordable and something has to change.
 
cycle61 said:
Dude, have you ever been in an elementary school classroom? Teachers would be perfect. :laughing :twofinger
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Plenty, and I know plenty of teachers....had them in the family. Some would do fine in law enforcement. Most would not. If anything they'd make better probation officers.
 
Why do they have money to waste on recruiting by TV ads ? That's not how most applicants hear about openings.
 
bojangle said:
But police are paramilitary organizations. Should recruiting efforts attempt to portray the job as something else? A significant percentage of officers will leave the force with disability retirements before they ever make a full career. The dangers are real. :dunno
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Portions of large city police sure. Please don't tell me all of y'all, CHP included, are dressing up in ski masks and playing operator?

It's a tiny..tiny and needs to be even smaller part of what LEOs should be doing.
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Tharkûn said:
Not anymore its not. I believe the last graduating class had 1/3 of its new officers turn in their notice and sign with other departments that aren't large enough to have their own academies and have much better pay and benefits. Thanks for paying for their academy Chuck Reed! That man is single handily crippling his city
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This x 1,000,000!!

There was a time during my midlife crisis when I got very close to SJPD... and then I did some ride-alongs, found that all but one of my buddies left SJPD... and they did me a favor by cancelling their academies for a few years. Although the crime rate in San Jose has been rising, it's amazing it's still relatively low based on what's happened to SJPD in recent years. It's now a $72K job with a miserable retirement plan and the incredibly small number of officers on patrol at any given time makes it a far more dangerous job considering you're often dealing with some of the worst people imaginable. My impression of Chuck Reed: penny wise, pound foolish. From a law enforcement perspective, San Jose is headed down a very dangerous path.
 
Ha-ha. This thread is hilarious..! Reminds my of the same libtard hippies who believe that the military's job is to drop flowers over shit-hole countries, put some band-aids on the poor peoples of Santo Poco, hold hands and sing Kumbaya. :laughing
 
fawndog said:
Why do they have money to waste on recruiting by TV ads ? That's not how most applicants hear about openings.
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Chuck Reed created a pretty desperate situation in the city...in an effort to save money. With the lawsuits, the TV commercials, and the large turnover rate, it doesn't soundlike it's working too well.

SummerLove said:
Portions of large city police sure. Please don't tell me all of y'all, CHP included, are dressing up in ski masks and playing operator?

It's a tiny..tiny and needs to be even smaller part of what LEOs should be doing.
:twofinger
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Ski masks? Playing operator? You don't seem to have a grasp on what it is we do. There is plenty of violence, action, and danger on any shift in any town America.
 
bojangle said:
Chuck Reed created a pretty desperate situation in the city...in an effort to save money. With the lawsuits, the TV commercials, and the large turnover rate, it doesn't soundlike it's working too well.
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Sigh... not so sure I agree with this.

bojangle said:
Ski masks? Playing operator? You don't seem to have a grasp on what it is we do. There is plenty of violence, action, and danger on any shift in any town America.
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This one I do agree with. My life is pretty insulated. For the most part I'm surrounded by people like me. During the ride along I did a few years back I was exposed to people, neighborhoods, lifestyles, attitudes and behavior that I'd previously never imagined existed. Not a clue. To me, disturbing. To a cop, target rich seems harsh, so let's use endless oportunity for contact instead. Sad.
 
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