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Stop me Before I Buy an Early 2000s Sportbike...The Poll! Part Deux!

What Early 2000s Sportbike is the Best Used-Sprotbile Value?

  • Honda CBR600F4i

    Votes: 13 15.5%

  • Suzuki GSX-R750

    Votes: 14 16.7%

  • Kawasaki ZX-6R 636 (not older gen or ZZR600)

    Votes: 10 11.9%

  • Honda 929/954

    Votes: 16 19.0%

  • First/Second or Third Gen YZF-R1

    Votes: 11 13.1%

  • Aprilia RSV1000 Mille

    Votes: 20 23.8%
  • Total voters
    84
  • Poll closed .
^^^ That Aluminum RC1 is not particularly heavy.
The Ergonomic position that puts the rider in not enough body leverage for street use, makes it feel heavy and the Geometry for track makes it feel slow turning ..On top .. of the heavy feel....On the street

Both of those things can be changed...real easy...But it takes a person that cares to do it, or it won't be done.
 
louemc said:
^^^ That Aluminum RC1 is not particularly heavy.
The Ergonomic position that puts the rider in not enough body leverage for street use, makes it feel heavy and the Geometry for track makes it feel slow turning ..On top .. of the heavy feel....On the street

Both of those things can be changed...real easy...But it takes a person that cares to do it, or it won't be done.
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MCN tested two RC51's and put them on their scales; the average was 485lbs.

Your bike, same scales, 432lbs.

The RC51 is a porker.
 
^^^ If You knew enough, You wouldn't let numbers be so important to You.

And we are talking street use, Not Track competition. The street (Ya know with sightline limitations, and traction sketchy issues) Makes it a if your bike is not right, it isn't a 50lb on a scale problem...
It's the rider is hopeless, problem :laughing
 
louemc said:
^^^ If You knew enough, You wouldn't let numbers be so important to You.

And we are talking street use, Not Track competition. The street (Ya know with sightline limitations, and traction sketchy issues) Makes it a if your bike is not right, it isn't a 50lb on a scale problem...It's the rider is hopeless, problem :laughing
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It's a featherweight though compared to the 509lb TLR. :laughing

But if you're arguing that increased weight has no affect on how a sportbike responds and performs on the street please feel free to keep on ranting.
 
GAJ said:
It's a featherweight though compared to the 509lb TLR. :laughing

But if you're arguing that increased weight has no affect on how a sportbike responds and performs on the street please feel free to keep on ranting.
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Didn't you know? Handlebars are the #1 most important mod to any sportbike. People who run clip-ons on the street just need to be educated.

:laughing

Personally, an RC is a shitty choice in terms of value. For any given model year, there are tons of cheaper bikes. What was the last RC, 2006 right? You could get a 2006 600 or liter bike for only $3-4K easily. Try getting a 2006 RC for that much.

RC's are good for style and sound......not much else.
 
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Rant? Is it Rant because You say it's Rant? GAJ? :rofl

Weight numbers are a funny thing...seems they come as dry weight and wet weight...

Just goggled Honda RC 51 got a Honda site..432 lbs dry.

They said it wasn't designed for the street rider, (well duh) so the street rider should expect to not be happy with it.

That's what I'm always saying...If You're riding on the street..Make the ergonomics right for the street. And the suspension shim stacks (oil control) is very different for street and track .. so.. on street, get the shim stacks for rough road.

Kawasaki site....436 lbs dry.

Ducati M 900 site 403 lbs dry.
 
It's funny to read people rant and rave about bikes they have little experience with. Gabe, if you decide to do an article on how awesome the RC is(n't), be sure to talk to Dan Kyle :laughing

The RC51 was a good bike for its day as an economic alternative to a Ducati but is not the best choice as a street bike for a large number of riders out there. You had to invest a decent amount of cash to get it to handle nicely at anything over 85% capacity. It was the ZX-7R of its day: Heavy, slow handling, but cast a big shadow in the hands of AMA and SBK pros so a lot of people wanted one.

Truth be told it would be hard to go wrong with any of the bikes on the list. One would think you'd want to include a Suzi or Kaw as one of the final 3 as you already have Big Red and the Tuning fork represented... ?
 
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Meh. I voted 954 even though I said GSXR 750 in the other thread.


954=performance bargain of the century.

Plus it's light for all the nancy boys with noodle arms. They would need to put handle bars on ANY OTHER BIKE.
 
Mille or 2nd gen r1. What are you looking for in a bike? The two are hugely different so it makes for an easy pick if you know what you're looking for.
 
Rc 51 feels as light as a feather after riding vfr for 3 years.
 
Gabe said:
Are you kidding? We've already discussed all this in the two prior threads. You are kidding, right? You and the Tuono guy?
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Was kidding. :party
 
It has to be APE RSV.
Before that bike came around we didnt know there was "another" Italian bike company (old timers dont count so keep your guzzi/laverda/moto morini opinions to yourself :) )
Italian bike thats reliable ? no we didnt know about it either, has FI and wins world super bike from the get go....oh it sold very well for the first born....if not for the RSV USA would never hear about Aprilia...and we wouldnt have all the modern bikes we enjoy today that gave that "other" Italian bike company a run for their money and a real competitor. Notice how reliability of Ducatis went up after RSV came around....just my 0.2c.
 
mitiasbikes said:
It has to be APE RSV.
Before that bike came around we didnt know there was "another" Italian bike company (old timers dont count so keep your guzzi/laverda/moto morini opinions to yourself :) )
Italian bike thats reliable ? no we didnt know about it either, has FI and wins world super bike from the get go....oh it sold very well for the first born....if not for the RSV USA would never hear about Aprilia...and we wouldnt have all the modern bikes we enjoy today that gave that "other" Italian bike company a run for their money and a real competitor. Notice how reliability of Ducatis went up after RSV came around....just my 0.2c.
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Sounds like you're making an argument for best value in an Italian bike, not best value for a sportbike.
 
I've got an F4i I'm considering selling if you're interested.
 
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