philipviana
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something something track day rc390 fire joke insert here
i realized the irony the moment I hit submit
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The CMSP has $250k. How do you want to spend it on moto safety??
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i realized the irony the moment I hit submit
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maybe the back though.
I will be collecting for more thought and more of your input in the second 1/2 of this effort.
these could easily be made for less than a dollar each btw
So you definitely could outfit many different police and sheriff depts plus CHP
Also, Im sure its been noted already but what about getting more messages on the large changeable message boards
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On a mission to get these together... guess that means no riding.. 
Last minute suggestions are welcome of course.
Last minute suggestions are welcome of course.
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Hey Guys,
Thanks for the help here. I just sent in 8 suggestions.
I have a couple more in the works so if you don't see your don't fret, but please feel free to say WTF Budman what about this??.
Surj,
Sorry to steal your graphic to adjust for an example, but bottom line is it is really well done
Thanks for the help here. I just sent in 8 suggestions.
I have a couple more in the works so if you don't see your don't fret, but please feel free to say WTF Budman what about this??.
Surj,
Sorry to steal your graphic to adjust for an example, but bottom line is it is really well done
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Spend the $250,000 on a used Ferrari. Then you won't have another motorcycle accident.
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Here were the proposals accepted for review.
With your help here is the list.
As you can see... barf is well represented..
CALIFORNIA MOTORCYCLIST SAFETY PROGRAM ADVISORY COMMITTEE
SUGGESTIONS FOR POTENTIAL PROJECTS
Log Number Date Received Author Project Title Estimated Cost Time Period
CMSPADV-2016-001 08/16/16 D. Kobza Online Lane Splitting Educational Program $15,000+ Ongoing
CMSPADV-2016-002 07/27/16 N. Haris Study MC Enforcement Actions (Grants) Unknown Two Years?
CMSPADV-2016-003 07/27/16 N. Haris Study Effects of AB1952 – Mandatory Rider Training for those under 21 – Permitting/Licensing Process Unknown Two Years?
CMSPADV-2016-004 10/03/16 CHP Reflective Vests for CMSP Students $25,000 One Year Pilot
CMSPADV-2016-005 10/24/16 D. Kobza Add Lane Splitting Graphics to CHP Vehicles $75,000 Multi-Year
CMSPADV-2016-006 10/24/16 D. Kobza 5 Ways to Die Poster $32,000 One Year
CMSPADV-2016-007 10/24/16 D. Kobza 5 Ways to Kill a Rider Poster $60,000 One Year
CMSPADV-2016-008 10/24/16 D. Kobza Enhanced Motorcycle Awareness section in Driver Training Programs (private schools) centered around 5 Ways to Kill a Rider. $100,000
($20,000 subsequent year) Multi-Year
CMSPADV-2016-009 10/24/16 D. Kobza Scholarships for intermediate training for CMSP students passing the basic course within the previous two years $125,000 Ongoing
CMSPADV-2016-010 10/24/16 D. Kobza Develop lane splitting curriculum for intermediate rider training course Unknown One Year?
CMSPADV-2016-011 10/24/16 D. Kobza Create a Police Training Roadshow where public can ride and learn with law enforcement personnel at events such as Area open houses. $200,000
($100,000 subsequent years) Ongoing
CMSPADV-2016-012 10/24/16 D. Kobza Road Signage for congested commute corridors indicating, “Share the Lane, Watch for Motorcyclists” $5,000
($100,000 subsequent years) Three Years?
CMSPADV-2016-013 10/28/16 CBS Media Local Digital Media Proposal $250,000 One Year
With your help here is the list.
As you can see... barf is well represented..
CALIFORNIA MOTORCYCLIST SAFETY PROGRAM ADVISORY COMMITTEE
SUGGESTIONS FOR POTENTIAL PROJECTS
Log Number Date Received Author Project Title Estimated Cost Time Period
CMSPADV-2016-001 08/16/16 D. Kobza Online Lane Splitting Educational Program $15,000+ Ongoing
CMSPADV-2016-002 07/27/16 N. Haris Study MC Enforcement Actions (Grants) Unknown Two Years?
CMSPADV-2016-003 07/27/16 N. Haris Study Effects of AB1952 – Mandatory Rider Training for those under 21 – Permitting/Licensing Process Unknown Two Years?
CMSPADV-2016-004 10/03/16 CHP Reflective Vests for CMSP Students $25,000 One Year Pilot
CMSPADV-2016-005 10/24/16 D. Kobza Add Lane Splitting Graphics to CHP Vehicles $75,000 Multi-Year
CMSPADV-2016-006 10/24/16 D. Kobza 5 Ways to Die Poster $32,000 One Year
CMSPADV-2016-007 10/24/16 D. Kobza 5 Ways to Kill a Rider Poster $60,000 One Year
CMSPADV-2016-008 10/24/16 D. Kobza Enhanced Motorcycle Awareness section in Driver Training Programs (private schools) centered around 5 Ways to Kill a Rider. $100,000
($20,000 subsequent year) Multi-Year
CMSPADV-2016-009 10/24/16 D. Kobza Scholarships for intermediate training for CMSP students passing the basic course within the previous two years $125,000 Ongoing
CMSPADV-2016-010 10/24/16 D. Kobza Develop lane splitting curriculum for intermediate rider training course Unknown One Year?
CMSPADV-2016-011 10/24/16 D. Kobza Create a Police Training Roadshow where public can ride and learn with law enforcement personnel at events such as Area open houses. $200,000
($100,000 subsequent years) Ongoing
CMSPADV-2016-012 10/24/16 D. Kobza Road Signage for congested commute corridors indicating, “Share the Lane, Watch for Motorcyclists” $5,000
($100,000 subsequent years) Three Years?
CMSPADV-2016-013 10/28/16 CBS Media Local Digital Media Proposal $250,000 One Year
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From the CHP also:
Preliminarily, three projects have been identified as feasible to complete in Fiscal Year 2016/17, specifically, the CMSP student safety vest pilot project (CMSPADV-2016-004), and the two poster projects (CMSPADV-2016-006 and CMSPADV-2016-007, respectively). Some of the other suggestions had policy and/or legislative issues which prevent them from going forward.
As a next step, Acting Chief C. C. would like to discuss the suggestions with you via a telephonic meeting. A teleconference has been tentatively set for Wednesday, December 14, 2016.
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I will advise after that meeting.
Thanks for helping out with your suggestions.
Preliminarily, three projects have been identified as feasible to complete in Fiscal Year 2016/17, specifically, the CMSP student safety vest pilot project (CMSPADV-2016-004), and the two poster projects (CMSPADV-2016-006 and CMSPADV-2016-007, respectively). Some of the other suggestions had policy and/or legislative issues which prevent them from going forward.
As a next step, Acting Chief C. C. would like to discuss the suggestions with you via a telephonic meeting. A teleconference has been tentatively set for Wednesday, December 14, 2016.
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I will advise after that meeting.
Thanks for helping out with your suggestions.
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http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9667941&postcount=233
Zack asked if the proposal to put a lane splitting awareness sticker on the CHP.
The answer was there is not enough time to implement much before July 1 which is when the money needs to be spent by.
These are my notes from yesterday's meeting.
Proposal moving forward: 4, 6 and 7. ( I will be on the smaller review committee).
Possible future projects (tabled for now*) – I am open to take to the CA Motorcycle Safety Committee, although I think OTS Moto money is going to be scarce in 2017.
2, 3, 5, 8, 9, 13
1 and 10 are pending the Lane splitting guidelines being developed and approval first. (Sounds like they will be seriously considered in the future - this program will continue. Starting in July we will move on these on potentially more.)
11- is going to happen, just needs to be figured out where and when.
12 has merit, but takes national guidelines. The cost is difficult to calculate. This is going to continue to be researched for future implementation.
* Projects are tabled for now due to available time to implement before July 1.
Zack asked if the proposal to put a lane splitting awareness sticker on the CHP.
The answer was there is not enough time to implement much before July 1 which is when the money needs to be spent by.
These are my notes from yesterday's meeting.
Proposal moving forward: 4, 6 and 7. ( I will be on the smaller review committee).
Possible future projects (tabled for now*) – I am open to take to the CA Motorcycle Safety Committee, although I think OTS Moto money is going to be scarce in 2017.
2, 3, 5, 8, 9, 13
1 and 10 are pending the Lane splitting guidelines being developed and approval first. (Sounds like they will be seriously considered in the future - this program will continue. Starting in July we will move on these on potentially more.)
11- is going to happen, just needs to be figured out where and when.
12 has merit, but takes national guidelines. The cost is difficult to calculate. This is going to continue to be researched for future implementation.
* Projects are tabled for now due to available time to implement before July 1.
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sad that I missed this thread, I don't venture into General all that much anymore
really too late to add my
but I will anyway
wow, $250k always sounds like a lot of money until you realize that it boils down to 31 cents per registered motorcycle.
I'm glad you got something passed because anything is better then nothing. Where will the posters be displayed?
really too late to add my
but I will anyway wow, $250k always sounds like a lot of money until you realize that it boils down to 31 cents per registered motorcycle.
I'm glad you got something passed because anything is better then nothing. Where will the posters be displayed?
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Actually if you have an idea bring it. I can already pitch it.
Considering the amount they have been using of the fund the extra Million is awesome (assuming you read the first post). The 250K that is open to our committee to provide input on is sure appreciated by me.
Considering the amount they have been using of the fund the extra Million is awesome (assuming you read the first post). The 250K that is open to our committee to provide input on is sure appreciated by me.
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Kind of a half empty kind of dude, hey?
Registered owners probably means about 50 cents per rider, and even more per street rider. And if you look at historical California State expenditures for street motorcycles, this is like five cherries on a big ol' MGM slot, in my opinion. It's definitely better than pulling two oranges and a joker. In most of the close-call/crash threads posted on here, I noticed that none of the posts/vids showed rider using tee tee ("hold your position, i'm passing through") just before the incident. You can see in videos that riders are not covering horn button when entering a sketchy traffic situation. Well timed horn use is probably the most proactive way to solve the developing traffic situation. If it fails, then you still have option of using regular accident avoidance maneuver.
It's much easier to use compared to brake and swerve maneuver.
During commute hours, it will lessen the 'startled' effect.
It will keep the traffic flow flowing compared to braking (brake light lights up) which causes chain reaction of other drivers braking.
Maybe do some tests and see if it's worth promoting this practice.
It's much easier to use compared to brake and swerve maneuver.
During commute hours, it will lessen the 'startled' effect.
It will keep the traffic flow flowing compared to braking (brake light lights up) which causes chain reaction of other drivers braking.
Maybe do some tests and see if it's worth promoting this practice.
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Hell, we could do that for them
budman you are a superstar, the tip of the spear, the zenith of Moto Ambassadorism!
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Hell, we could do that for them
budman you are a superstar, the tip of the spear, the zenith of Moto Ambassadorism!
I've personally seen this happen. Caltrans, too. Wasn't me!
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I don't have any helpful suggestions being new to the area and not understanding what issues there are, however, just throwing out there if it's useful at all that i'm a market research consultant by trade (9+ years) - i deal with data analytics all day.
If the proposal you end up with requires data mining/drawing conclusions from data, i'd be more than happy to volunteer my time to help analyze & write up recommendations.
If the proposal you end up with requires data mining/drawing conclusions from data, i'd be more than happy to volunteer my time to help analyze & write up recommendations.
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Few hundred thousand gallons of white road paint and bot dots, why? Motorcycle highway and freeway lanes in majorly congested areas of CA or in high moto accident areas.
Get this put on all dmv written test.
- Is a motorcycle/motor-driven cycle legally allowed to travel between other vehicles during periods of heavy traffic?
A.YES, but not if traffic is moving faster than 35(it is 35 right)
B.NO, it is illegal and an unsafe practice
-wording can be worked on
and just its barf a nice commuter bike with good egro for a 6'2 185lb rider. i will free advertise any gear, stickers, or any tangible information(handing out xxxx to other riders etc) ......one can dream no??
Get this put on all dmv written test.
- Is a motorcycle/motor-driven cycle legally allowed to travel between other vehicles during periods of heavy traffic?
A.YES, but not if traffic is moving faster than 35(it is 35 right)
B.NO, it is illegal and an unsafe practice
-wording can be worked on
and just its barf a nice commuter bike with good egro for a 6'2 185lb rider. i will free advertise any gear, stickers, or any tangible information(handing out xxxx to other riders etc) ......one can dream no??