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Thoughts about a KX250??

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I found a good running KX250 for $500. Don't know what year and I don't know much about it. I am trying to find a dirt bike for my husband. He is a new to dirt bikes, but he's been riding street bikes for 3 1/2 years now and currently rides a Nighthawk 750. He's a big guy at 6'3" and 225lbs.

Can someone tell me more about the KX250? I am getting the impression that it's a 2 stroke, which I understand are more powerful than the 4 strokers ??? I'm a dirt newbie myself so I am still learning.

But I am interested in your thoughts on this bike for my husband as a first bike.

Discuss please.
 
Sounds like a good deal if its not beat to death and/or ancient to the point of being hard to source parts for. The kx250 is a two stroke so it will require an oil/gas mixture in the tank, it is plenty powerful for your husband unless he's looking to break a land speed record. Maintenance is easy and relatively inexpensive vs a four stroke over the long term.
 
I'm pretty mechanically inclined. I'll have to get more information on it.
 
newer one looks like it has better ergo's for a big guy
but i'd look for one that has been done for trail riding with a torque pipe and a flywheel weight and raised bars rather than some dude's track weapon sporting a rev pipe
kdx's are good learner-intermediate bikes with decent but not savage power
wr and drz 450's seem fairly new rider/big guy friendly
there is a bit of info to be found over on thumpertalk and other sites about making a trail/enduro machine out of a two stroke 250

remember the phrase "i think it's been modded for trail" means NOTHING
 
WOW, thanks for all the feedback and recommendations guys. I better keep saving the dough so we can get him the right bike. Just thought it'd be nice to score a bike for $500.
 
newer one looks like it has better ergo's for a big guy
but i'd look for one that has been done for trail riding with a torque pipe and a flywheel weight and raised bars rather than some dude's track weapon sporting a rev pipe
kdx's are good learner-intermediate bikes with decent but not savage power
wr and drz 450's seem fairly new rider/big guy friendly
there is a bit of info to be found over on thumpertalk and other sites about making a trail/enduro machine out of a two stroke 250

remember the phrase "i think it's been modded for trail" means NOTHING
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I have to agree here with Grunpyman.
It really comes down to funds and style of riding you plan on doing and of course which bike will best suit your hubby for size.

You can always call on a bike and get more info on it. Does not hurt anything to set up a time and place to take a look at them.

Kurt
 
Iceman, I am waiting to hear back from him about more information on the bike. My guess is that it's a late 80's model.

As for type of riding... my hubby is very laid back and is not really into lots of power and racing. We plan on doing mostly trail riding, especially at first.

Thank you all for the tips, keep 'em coming and I'll just keep on looking. :)
 
You're probably right, the bike probably needs too much work. As for the difference between a 2 stroke and a 4 stroke, neither of know enough to know which we prefer or which is better. Just looking for a bike at a decent price that he isn't going to weigh the suspension down on and he's for the most part comfortable on.
 
KX250 is probably way more bike than a newb would want anyway. I had a KX60 shortly for my wife to follow the kids around on. That thing had HUGE punch even in fourth gear when you hit the powerband.

Get a used CRF230F for 2K, ride it for six or eight months and sell it for ... 2K.

I have a friend that got a pristine 230F for 1900 with some nice suspension upgrades. We kept it very clean, did all the maintenance, put nice tires on it and jetted it. She rode it over the summer quite a bit, then I put it on CL for 2K on a Wed night, sold it Friday AM for 2K and drove down to Carmel and picked up an CRF250X for 2750.00.

YMMV :D

Mark
 
Okay, so what you are saying is that the 2 strokes are way more powerful? That's good to know. He has little interest in that. Just want something fun and easy to ride. Looks like we'll be looking around for a 4 stroker then.
 
So far all of the bikes posted in this thread are overpriced, including the mid 80's Kawi for $500. A word of warning on any 20+ yr old MX bike: should you have a motor issue, as a bike of that vintage would be prone to do, you will spend nearly as much to fix the motor as the entire bike cost you.

You should be able to pick up a mid-late 90's 250 for around a grand. Or if you want a bit more bike, there are plenty of 2000-2002 bikes not selling in the $1500-2000 range. The improvements in chassis and suspension designs on bikes made in the mid 90's upwards will be well worth waiting and saving up some cash. Another benefit is having a bike less long in the tooth and less likely to have gasket, bearing and seal issues among other things.

For reference, I posted my cherry 02' CR250 for sale a few months ago for 2k and didnt get any interest at all. My bike has less than 110 hours on it, a fresh PC motor, tires, chain, sprockets, plastics, 3 pipes, 2 silencers, 2 filters, ect.....

Here are a few bikes that stand out to me as having been great bikes both in their year of manufacture, as well as today:

Kawi: 1996-1999 Emig Era bikes were notoriously strong off the bottom and had decent suspension for the day.

Honda: 1992-1996 McGrath Era bikes had some of the gnarliest 2 stroke 250 motors of all time. Great chassis, the last of Hondas steel frame. Suspension was on par with the rest. Stay away from 1997-1999 Honda 250's. The worst production MX chassis in the last 20 years.2000-2001 had a much better chassis than 97-99 with similar geometry to the 92. 02-07 one of the best chassis Honda ever made. Motor is very electric and linear, not the punchy powerhouse of hondas of old. Still not sure which I like better. A motor that rips your arms out and you cant ride more than a few laps on or one that builds power controllably and predictably.

Yamaha: Any bike 90’s up will be solid. The 94s had amazing power and had lots of aftermarket support like Noleen cylinders that bumped displacement over 50cc. 95s were the steel framed basis for what Yamaha is still selling today. Great motors, KYB suspension worked really well. 00-04 great all around bikes. Reliable, easy to ride, very workman like. 05-present aluminum perimeter frame, very nice KYB sss susp.

Suzuki: I would stay away from anything before 1999. The 99-00 were a lot better than previous models but had fidgety chassis and weak motors. 01-08 were the best 2 strokes Suzuki ever made. They had motors that were easy to ride, fast and reliable. Showa suspension than settled down their reputation to have headshake. Much better manufacturing as well.

KTM: The newer, the better. Dont bother with anything more than 10 years old.

Try checking classifieds on thumpertalk, ktmtalk, ect.

Hope this helps.
 
Goodness, yes.... thank you for such great advice! I am so glad I asked first. I don't want to buy a headache, I just want to have some fun.

The bikes that we have considered for him have included the CRF230, the CRF250, the XR250, the TTR230L, and the KLR250 (dual sport).

I love these forums!! :)
 
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Okay, so what you are saying is that the 2 strokes are way more powerful?

For a given displacement, a two-stroke will have a lot more power (and weigh less than a four-stroke, as well). But the engine also has a very different character, which some people love and some people just don't. That's something he'll need to try and decide for himself.

Read up on the green and red sticker sticky, too. Anything '03 and newer is subject to those regs.

For two-strokes, you have to rebuild them fairly regularly. They're a lot simpler than 4Ts to do that on; no top end like a 4T. Four-stroke MX and enduro bikes (CRF250/450R or X, WR/YZ250/450F) are more maintenance-intensive than trailies. I put out the XR400 because it has screw-type valves (easy to adjust), is more of a low-end engine than a revver, has a better suspension than most trailies, and is green-sticker.
 
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For a given displacement, a two-stroke will have a lot more power (and weigh less than a four-stroke, as well). But the engine also has a very different character, which some people love and some people just don't. That's something he'll need to try and decide for himself.

Read up on the green and red sticker sticky, too. Anything '03 and newer is subject to those regs.

For two-strokes, you have to rebuild them fairly regularly. They're a lot simpler than 4Ts to do that on; no top end like a 4T. Four-stroke MX and enduro bikes (CRF250/450R or X, WR/YZ250/450X) are more maintenance-intensive than trailies. I put out the XR400 because it has screw-type valves (easy to adjust), is more of a low-end engine than a revver, has a better suspension than most trailies, and is green-sticker.

Okay, I think I am starting to understand. I like the idea of something that is easy to adjust and maintain.
 
2 Strokes are more "race bikes"

4 Strokes have both "race bikes" and entry level bikes.

The F series from Honda is more of an entry level bike, low HP, poor suspension

The X series is the "next" step up, watercooled, better and more complicated to maintain valves, lighter, etc.

The R series is their all out "race" bike that doesn't meet CA emissions green sticker emissions.

The F series is a great bike (150F or 230F). It has decent power for learning, is fairly small for trails and the basic maintenance is easy.

I think I offered before, but if you want to try out a 230F (it is lowered though) and or maybe a 250X shoot me a PM. We will prolly be at HH both days this weekend. Fun to stop by and check it out too.
 
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2 Strokes are more "race bikes"

4 Strokes have both "race bikes" and entry level bikes.

The F series from Honda is more of an entry level bike, low HP, poor suspension

The X series is the "next" step up, watercooled, better and more complicated to maintain valves, lighter, etc.

The R series is their all out "race" bike that doesn't meet CA emissions.

The F series is a great bike (150F or 230F). It has decent power for learning, is fairly small for trails and the basic maintenance is easy.

I think I offered before, but if you want to try out a 230F (it is lowered though) and or maybe a 250X shoot me a PM. We will prolly be at HH both days this weekend. Fun to stop by and check it out too.

THANK YOU for clearing those letter codes out for me.... I had no idea what they meant. We are busy this weekend, so that's a no-go. :(

Sounds like the best thing for us to do is to hold out for the MSF dirt bike class and get the opinion from the instructor on a suitable bike for my husband. And he can try a couple different bikes while he's there.
 
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