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VW "Clean" Diesel not really clean

VW cancelled his appt and is dragging their heels about accepting his car.

thanks for updating. Story changed by the HALF-day.. HA. Yesterday's link showed a car without a glovebox and vent bezels.
** IT looked "so" interesting that i was nearly thinking of Subscribing to Yalopnik just to follow this story whether VW would gulp through.

That said, that dude REALLY did buy the car in Aug or Sep 2015... supposedly...

addendum: it looks like VW is hand waving in a statement that the car should be in good condition; because they may manage to fix them and re-sell later.

Pinch a loaf in the airbox before you drop it off? A diesel decker, if you will.

For some reason, even before 9/2015 I personally thought diesels were stinky deckers anyway. At least your type of pinching would make them stinky for the Operator of the car, too! :later
 
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I suspect some VW lawyer is losing a job over failure to include language preventing stripping the car, but likely too late now since the owners have zero incentive to renegotiate the deal with more limiting language.

I wonder how long before someone opens a business offering VW owners cash in exchange for stripping parts before buy back.
 
Haha! Dude's a moron...VW has to fight this up front so others don't do it. There's not enough money in this guys account to make his "cool story brah" come true...

He's gonna be putting all that shit back on and getting his money, or waiting a considerable amount of time.

+1 marooooon
It's about the same as threatening to kick someone in the jewels, then acting surprised when they kick first.

Sofa Kingdom that guy is
 
Letter v spirit

Abuse the system, the system will abuse you eventually

You can be sure VW will be going by what's written in the contract, so I don't see why everyone else should be expected to go by the "spirit" of the contract. VW certainly didn't volunteer to deal with all the illegal cars they knowingly sold to keep within the spirit of emissions laws.

VW has plenty of lawyers who should know better.

I am curious how the judges ruling will be enforced, What about people with highly modified cars? Or stripped track vehicles?
 
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I don't think VW or lawyers or the judge anticipated people to strip their vehicles

I think it's shitty that people were

If you don't like the judges rule, you can always sue independently. Good luck with that
 
I'd expect standard lease return Language to be the standard. That means no mods.
 
I'd expect standard lease return Language to be the standard. That means no mods.

Except it wasn't a lease, the government is mandating the buyback and the owners didn't know they couldn't mod their vehicles.

Say you bought a VW a few years back and decided to track the hell out of it and now it turns out VW needs to buy it back. VW needs that car off the road, and you shouldn't be on the hook for losing your car as a result of VW's criminal actions.

I suspect that despite making a bunch of noise and the judges order VW will have to buy back basically anything except the most extreme cases of stripped vehicles.
 
bpw: Even lemon law buybacks have pretty strict standards. The difference is they're negotiated at arbitration.
 
"Joe remains firm that stripping the car wasn’t a breach of the terms in the class action suit, saying he plans to get his own legal advice in the coming days."

What a tool. VW has every legal right to not take his car. As Berto said, this guy is going to be spending some serious time re-installing all the shit he removed.
 
"Joe remains firm that stripping the car wasn’t a breach of the terms in the class action suit, saying he plans to get his own legal advice in the coming days."

What a tool. VW has every legal right to not take his car. As Berto said, this guy is going to be spending some serious time re-installing all the shit he removed.

Sure what he did was kinda a dick move, but I don't see a clear legal case for VW to refuse, they put specific language in the buyback terms and he followed it to the letter. If they wanted the doors they should have asked for a complete car back, not just able to drive under its own power and including the engine.

I'm sure a lot of very smart lawyers looked that document over, why should he have to guess what VW required when they clearly spelled out the requirements. Now that a judge has ruled other people can't strip the vehicles, but he was abiding by the terms at the time when he tried to turn his in.
 
It is also worth remembering VW has to do something about these cars, they can't just decide they don't want to take some of them back.

Any loss they take on a stripped car will be way cheaper than any alternative.
 
I know this might seem confusing, but there is an inherent requirement in every contract that both parties act in good faith and treat each other fairly. Specifically, you are not allowed to take advantage of a clause's vagueness to flagrantly deprive the other party of a primary benefit that the contract, taken in totality, was clearly intending to confer. In essence, there is a "don't be a dick" clause in every contract, and everyone should always remember that.
 
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I don't think VW or lawyers or the judge anticipated people to strip their vehicles

I think it's shitty that people were

If you don't like the judges rule, you can always sue independently. Good luck with that

If they didnt, they are idiots.

Even the CA "cash for clunkers " program had people stripping valuable parts off their high polluting vehicles and turning in barely rolling chassis and that was only for what, $5k credit towards a new car?
 
They're German

Germans are honest :laughing

And mercurial is right, just because the contract doesn't explicitly say you can't do it... doesn't mean you can. This guy clearly attempted to defraud
 
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