HappyHighwayman
It's all in the reflexes
I start it, put on my gloves, back out of driveway...30-60 seconds warmup.
How high do you think is reasonable? I regularly have my SV1000 up at 5k when it's at 110F (entering the Posey Tube). I get on the freeway at 150F, but don't tend to wind it out all the way.You should never use more than a bit of throttle and never rev the engine high until it's warm. To the moon? You redline a cold car of bike? Not a good idea.
How high do you think is reasonable? I regularly have my SV1000 up at 5k when it's at 110F (entering the Posey Tube). I get on the freeway at 150F, but don't tend to wind it out all the way.
Older bikes with carburetors ARE NOT different. If it will run without the choke, I ride away. On my XR650L, that's 30 seconds most days and maybe a whole minute if it's really cold. On the 1997 Ducati M900 Monster that I used to own, I would ride away with the "choke" (actually fuel enricher) on for a block or two until it was happy, but I didn't warm it up any longer than the fuel injected Ducatis that I owned later on.As long as you don't ride it hard until it's close to normal operating temps, you should be okay to ride right away without warming up. This applies to modern F.I. bikes. Older bikes with carbs are different.
The big Suzuki twins have clutch basket issues, so it's rough if i'm below 3700rpm or so (depending on throttle position). It isn't until I'm getting on the freeway that I'm likely to be hard on the gas, and even then I don't have to be.I don't see anything wrong with 5k unless it's hard on the throttle.
I think all of us should go dig out the owner's manuals for our particular bike and post a snap-shot of where it talks about engine warm-up.
I'll do it for my 950.

I imagine my WR450 is probably a little rich down low, but it'll idle cold without choke. I'll ride off right away, but I take it easy on it for a while (although I imagine a small-ish engine like it has should warm up quickly).Older bikes with carburetors ARE NOT different. If it will run without the choke, I ride away. On my XR650L, that's 30 seconds most days and maybe a whole minute if it's really cold. On the 1997 Ducati M900 Monster that I used to own, I would ride away with the "choke" (actually fuel enricher) on for a block or two until it was happy, but I didn't warm it up any longer than the fuel injected Ducatis that I owned later on.
I've owned a bunch of carbureted bikes and none of them needed extended warm up time before they could be ridden, although some needed the fuel enricher on for a short while before they would idle happily without it.
I think all of us should go dig out the owner's manuals for our particular bike and post a snap-shot of where it talks about engine warm-up.
I'll do it for my 950.
How high do you think is reasonable? I regularly have my SV1000 up at 5k when it's at 110F (entering the Posey Tube). I get on the freeway at 150F, but don't tend to wind it out all the way.
The track bike I start and let it idle while I put on my helmet and gloves, pull off tire warmers, get it off the stands, then pit speeds out to the hot pits.
Redline is 11k. I wouldn't be surprised if oil doesn't really get warmed up on my commute (15 miles total, Alameda to North Beach).whats your redline? IMO, the lower the better for both RPM and load until everything is fully up to temp. my habits are exactly the same as yours so i think you are good.
i wonder how warm your oil is when water is 150F.
is that before each session? what do u do in the morning before the first session?
u gotta remember, it takes a pretty long time to warm the entire engine. any chunk of metal that is thick, esp steel ones, take a while to heat completely through. the heat needs time to soak in. 5min aint going to do it.
Redline is 11k. I wouldn't be surprised if oil doesn't really get warmed up on my commute (15 miles total, Alameda to North Beach).
Only takes about 1-2 minutes for the engine to warm up.