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Whatever happened to executing traitors?

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3 former US officials charged in UAE hacking scheme
WASHINGTON (AP) — Three former U.S. intelligence and military operatives have admitted providing sophisticated computer hacking technology to the United Arab Emirates and agreed to pay nearly $1.7 million to resolve criminal charges in an agreement that the Justice Department described Tuesday as the first of its kind.

The defendants — Marc Baier, Ryan Adams and Daniel Gericke — are accused of working as senior managers at a UAE-based company that conducted hacking operations on behalf of the government. Prosecutors say the men provided hacking and intelligence-gathering systems that were used to break into computers in the United State and elsewhere in the world.

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The Justice Department described each of them as former U.S. intelligence or military personnel, and said their work for the UAE-based company began after they had left the government. Baier is identified in a 2019 Reuters news story as previously having worked in an elite hacking unit of the NSA.


The CIA warned in a letter earlier this year about “an uptick in the number of former officers who have disclosed sensitive information about CIA activities, personnel, and tradecraft.”
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The damage these traitors have done would be way beyond the $1.7 Million fine.

Seems like being a traitor to this country pays really well, doesn't even involve jail time, even if they're caught.

Why wouldn't more people want to do what they did? We are a country that doesn't hold people accountable for white collar crime, no matter how aggregious...at least as long as no Billionaire's were harmed.
 
Bastards. Hope they well at night knowing what they’ve done. Their families must be real proud of them.
 
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I'm guessing they're more valuable to the intelligence community alive than dead.
 
BiG Chris said:
Still not as bad as biden giving the taliban everything
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US military leaving shit behind is a standard MO.
Also how many more US soldiers lives would have been lost to bring back equipment that will probably rust away because Taliban can't maintain it?

Also unless Taliban plans to parachute in to US in humvee it only matters if US goes back. That would be the height of stupidity.

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To add wasn't majority of the equipment given to Afghan army and was maintained by U.S. contractors. So what does it even mean by leaving "everything" there? Was U.S. supposed to disarm Afghan army as they were leaving?
 
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If you look back to the WWII and post WWII era, even the traitors who gave the Soviets nuclear secrets were seldom punished harshly, except for the Rosenbergs.
 
afm199 said:
If you look back to the WWII and post WWII era, even the traitors who gave the Soviets nuclear secrets were seldom punished harshly, except for the Rosenbergs.
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Which is probably a factor in what brings us to people doing what these people did with no fear of real consequences.
 
Climber said:
Which is probably a factor in what brings us to people doing what these people did with no fear of real consequences.
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Dude, I'm sure these guys were black hats before they were with the intelligence community. :dunno
 
Climber said:
3 former US officials charged in UAE hacking scheme

The damage these traitors have done would be way beyond the $1.7 Million fine.

Seems like being a traitor to this country pays really well, doesn't even involve jail time, even if they're caught.

Why wouldn't more people want to do what they did? We are a country that doesn't hold people accountable for white collar crime, no matter how aggregious...at least as long as no Billionaire's were harmed.
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according to wikipedia U.S. Code Title 18 allows for the death sentence for treason but only 1 person has ever been executed for treason against the federal govt and that was during the civil war and under martial law

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason_laws_in_the_United_States#

rosenburgs were convicted of espionage, not treason
 
postcholo said:
according to wikipedia U.S. Code Title 18 allows for the death sentence for treason but only 1 person has ever been executed for treason against the federal govt and that was during the civil war and under martial law

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason_laws_in_the_United_States#

rosenburgs were convicted of espionage, not treason
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Oh man, seems like a harsh penalty even for back then!

Only one person has ever been executed for treason against the federal government: William Bruce Mumford, who was convicted of treason and hanged in 1862 for tearing down a United States flag during the American Civil War.
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Yeah, treason has always been a capital offense in the USA, but if I remember right Congress has to issue the sentence, so it is highly negotiable?
 
Sure, put 'em up against the wall right next to Mark Milley.
 
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jt2 said:
Sure, put 'em up against the wall right next to Mark Milley.
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lol, how cray cray were things in last days of the previous administration that war hawk Milley was getting cold feet. :laughing
 
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