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Whats a good beginner acoustic guitar

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I want to take up the guitar,never played one before..so i mite get bored real quick.
So whats a good cheap beginner acoustic guitar.Is it good to watch youtbute vids for learning.
 
its easier on the finger to start with an electric IMO. lower actions (harder strings easier to push down) aka less blisters. if interested i will sell you a beginner electric guitar, amp, case and cord for less that just the guitar cost.
 
its easier on the finger to start with an electric IMO. lower actions (harder strings easier to push down) aka less blisters. if interested i will sell you a beginner electric guitar, amp, case and cord for less that just the guitar cost.

What you looking for for the set up.I seen some guitars on cl for cheap maybe i should go for an Electric acoustic guitar Kill 2 birds with one stone.
 
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Buy a cheap guitar and you will not want to play it.
Buy a decent or even nice one and you will be inspired to play it.
Not to mention it will probably always be in tune or close when you pick it up.

My recommendation is a Big Baby Taylor. Very fair price for a nicely constructed guitar.
Don't buy a used one unless it is from a friend or someone who you know maintains it properly. Otherwise you will inherit headaches.
Buy from these guys and screw Kalifornia out of the tax. I just bought something from Sweetwater and they made two follow up calls to see if I am happy.
If a local mom and pop place will sell it to you for a competitive price, buy from them.
 
Spend about $400 on a re-worked Norman. Buy it from John Mello in Kensington after you make an appointment (510-528-1080). He orders the guitars, then scrapes an ounce or so of wood from the braces (most steel-string guitars are overbuilt because its easy to do so to guarantee top stability), makes sure the fretboard is right, works over the nut and saddle and gives you a guarantee. I have a six and 12-string I bought from him. The six-string is an incredible guitar for the money. They come in different body sizes, the dreadnaught has the best sound, but there are also parlor size and cutaways. He takes em back used; or, if you find one on CL that somebody says they bought from him, that would be a good choice (most scammers aren't going to really know about what he does to misrepresent what they have). Normans are just one brand name of a Canadian guitar factory that sells about four labels. It all started with Seagull guitars about 30 years ago.

Honestly, if you don't know what you're doing, you are very likely to get a crap guitar. I used to manage a guitar store that was fussy about what we would put on the shelf. I sent back half of the guitars they sent us for bad necks, etc etc.

The other option is to ask whatever friend you have who is the best player and have him or her take you around to try stuff. Anybody who has played for years and years knows whats up with crap guitars. Mainly, its the neck. But with used, you have cracked-n-repaired tops and such. It has to be done right. You'd best steer clear of Guitar Center. I think they will put anything out on the shelf. I'm sure it varies from store to store, tho. Music stores with competent personnel are a happy accident. A good and honest salesperson will steer you to their favorite. When I worked in a store, I favored one model and sold tons of em because I knew they wouldn't come back to haunt me.
 
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This one sounds great.

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As others have stated, buying a cheap acoustic is a mistake. It will play poorly, sound bad and be a chore. You will NOT want to learn. It will frustrate you and then you'll end up selling it on CL. Ever wonder why there are so many cheap acoustics for sale?

A electric IS easier to play, but electric guitar and acoustic guitar are surprisingly different. If you want to play acoustic, start with an acoustic. It's easier to switch from acoustic to electric than it is to switch from electric to acoustic.

Nylon string guitars can be great because they have far less tension than steel strings. They also are easier on your fingertips as you start to learn. However, nylon string guitars generally have larger nuts (which means a wider neck), less fret board radius (the neck is flatter) and wider spaced strings. They are designed for fingerstyle guitar (classical PIMA or just country style thumb and finger). If you want to strum with a pick, nylon is not the best choice.

The suggestion of a Big Baby Taylor is a really good one. Those guitars are well built and sound good. They have a solid top and are surprisingly well balanced in tone for an inexpensive, dreadnaught shaped guitar.

The suggestion of Blueridge and Seagull is also good. They are quality instruments. I would also suggest Japanese made Takamines.

Whatever you buy, I would STRONGLY recommend a solid top instrument. It will sound FAR better than a plywood topped guitar and generally retain its value.

Also, think about the type of music you want to play and the style you want to play. Most people think of dreadnaughts when they think of acoustic guitars. The dreadnaught shape was designed for a specific purpose. There are "better" sizes and shapes for various genres and styles (pop/rock, jazz, folk and fingerstyle versus strumming).

Hope this helps, and feel free to PM. I'm a bit of an acoustic guitar junkie.
 
The thing about dreadnaughts, and steel-string guitars, is that they deliver a comfortable, self-assuring sound relatively easy. You strum, they sound good. Hey, I'm a classical guitar player, among other things, but I have to say that a dreadnaught is a welcoming sound to a beginner that will sustain them as they learn.

Last time I looked, Takamines had just gotten way too expensive. Those Canadian guitars kinda whupped their ass in that department. For nylon sting guitars, there are surprising good guitars coming out of Bulgaria, under the Orpheus Valley label. John sells those, too. But they will cost more than a budget steel. I haven't been there lately, but perhaps Gryphon in Palo Alto might have some good used ones, and they have a reputation to protect. They have been a good store for a long time.

I will be contrarian enough to say that I don't agree that Baby Taylors (those little backpacky guitars, right?) sound that good. I was stuck in a band with a woman who played one of those things. That thing rattled and buzzed like a witches broom. Aaargh. I kept waiting for her to get a real guitar, that was my sentiment in the day. Maybe they are better now, I dunno.

Editing in: Ah, I see both of you said BIG Baby Taylor. Okay, must be a full size...just kind of a student model. Just don't get that little thing.
 
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The thing about dreadnaughts, and steel-string guitars, is that they deliver a comfortable, self-assuring sound relatively easy. You strum, they sound good. Hey, I'm a classical guitar player, among other things, but I have to say that a dreadnaught is a welcoming sound to a beginner that will sustain them as they learn.

Last time I looked, Takamines had just gotten way too expensive. Those Canadian guitars kinda whupped their ass in that department. For nylon sting guitars, there are surprising good guitars coming out of Bulgaria, under the Orpheus Valley label. John sells those, too. But they will cost more than a budget steel. I haven't been there lately, but perhaps Gryphon in Palo Alto might have some good used ones, and they have a reputation to protect. They have been a good store for a long time.

I will be contrarian enough to say that I don't agree that Baby Taylors (those little backpacky guitars, right?) sound that good. I was stuck in a band with a woman who played one of those things. That thing rattled and buzzed like a witches broom. Aaargh. I kept waiting for her to get a real guitar, that was my sentiment in the day. Maybe they are better now, I dunno.

Editing in: Ah, I see both of you said BIG Baby Taylor. Okay, must be a full size...just kind of a student model. Just don't get that little thing.

I generally dislike the sound of dreadnaughts. When folks are starting they generally think that acoustic guitar=dreadnaught and there are more options out there. Just trying to open up options without overwhelming. Agree whole heartedly on the Canadian guitars.

Occasionally you can find a good deal on a Japanese made, solid top Takamine so it's worth it to keep you eyes open

As far as the Baby Taylors go...There is the baby which IS a travel guitar and there is the Big Baby which is a full size version of the same. They are solid top with laminate back and sides and the Taylor bolt-on neck. You know as well as I that if a guitar is buzzing it needs a set up. There's absolutely no reason for a decent guitar to buzz unless the player wants it that way.
 
I would say you could find something for around $200 I like Yamaha solid tops, for beginners.

Let me know if you are thinking of buying one I can go check it out with you if you want. I used to work at guitar center so I know a few things to look for on used guitars.

I can show you a few chords too if you want, hit me up
 
I want to take up the guitar,never played one before..so i mite get bored real quick.
So whats a good cheap beginner acoustic guitar.Is it good to watch youtbute vids for learning.

Pretty much anything on Craigslist will work, but if you feel you need to buy new I'd recommend an Ovation Applause, they play well and their re-sale value is good. If you can find a used one all the better.
 
They are solid top with laminate back and sides and the Taylor bolt-on neck. You know as well as I that if a guitar is buzzing it needs a set up. There's absolutely no reason for a decent guitar to buzz unless the player wants it that way.

What I'm saying is that they produce so little sound that all you hear is just tinny registers. Even if they are set up perfect, they just yield very little sound that is actually pleasing. So people overplay 'em and they tend to buzz, unless the action is so high that they're unplayable to a beginner.

Yes on Japanese-made Takamines, and any old Yairis or Alvarez-Yairis kickin' around (even their ply-tops were damn good). And yes of course on solid-tops. Unless you get really lucky, I would avoid most Yamahas. Most of those around are ply-tops, many Korean made. (I was surprised to read above $200 for a solid top, that would be quite a deal). Over the years, they would occasionally make a nice guitar. And please don't get an Esteban. Or an old Hohner. Or that old Finnish one, that has good wood but crap sound, Estellas, I think.
 
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What I'm saying is that they produce so little sound that all you hear is just tinny registers. Even if they are set up perfect, they just yield very little sound that is actually pleasing. So people overplay 'em and they tend to buzz, unless the action is so high that they're unplayable to a beginner.

Yes on Japanese-made Takamines, and any old Yairis or Alvarez-Yairis kickin' around (even their ply-tops were damn good). And yes of course on solid-tops. Unless you get really lucky, I would avoid most Yamahas. Most of those around are ply-tops, many Korean made. (I was surprised to read above $200 for a solid top, that would be quite a deal). Over the years, they would occasionally make a nice guitar. And please don't get an Esteban. Or an old Hohner. Or that old Finnish one, that has good wood but crap sound, Estellas, I think.

So you're saying she was playing a baby Taylor in a band setting and expecting it to cut through and be heard? That's foolish. Yes, you are going to have to over play. That's like buying a Ninja 250 and then wondering why it's not as fast as a liter bike.

I'd also avoid the Yamahas. Pretty much anything off CL is NOT a good idea and while there are folks out there passionate about Ovation...... They're stable so good for outdoors and for live events since you're mostly hearing the pickup anyway. But they're not exactly a vintage sounding or voiced guitar.
 
Squidly hit the nail on the head.

My late mother was a music prof and when I was a wee lad looking for my first guitar, she spent a lot of time with a lot of guitars and eventually settled on a Takamine based on the wonderful sound it produced and the quality of construction. I still have that guitar 30+ years later and it still sounds and looks fantastic.

OP, if all you want to do is see if you like it, you'd be better off renting one for a few months rather than buying one.
 
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If you have a 30 year old Takamine, I bet it is good! I sold dozens of 132S', their solid top entry-level nylon. Great guitars. Their steels were good too. Just when my music store was going out of business, they began to shift production to Korea for 128s. A bit troubling. Japanese guitars are generally fantastic because of lifelong employees doing the building, and strong ethics regarding craft.

BTW. Here is a Norman, similar to what I describe. There are a few fishy things about the ad that I don't like, but I just wanted to give a picture of what we are talking about.
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/msg/3754099360.html Assuming its not hot, not cracked, etc, that's a decent price.
 
If you have a 30 year old Takamine, I bet it is good! I sold dozens of 132S', their solid top entry-level nylon. Great guitars. Their steels were good too. Just when my music store was going out of business, they began to shift production to Korea for 128s. A bit troubling. Japanese guitars are generally fantastic because of lifelong employees doing the building, and strong ethics regarding craft.

Don't know what model it is, but I'll need to pull it out tonight and see. It's full blonde color, front, side and back. I recall it retailed for about $800 new back when I bought it around 1980, and it was a lightly used model that I think I paid about $400 for. We were originally looking at Guilds and Taylors and Ovations, but fell in love with the sound of the Takamine. I had never even heard of them before then. Every once in a blue moon I'll see one in the hands of a professional musician, but pretty rare.
 
Don't know what model it is, but I'll need to pull it out tonight and see. I recall it retailed for about $800 new back when I bought it around 1980, and it was a lightly used model that I think I paid about $400 for. We were originally looking at Guilds and Taylors and Ovations, but fell in love with the sound of the Takamine. I had never even heard of them before then. Every once in a blue moon I'll see one in the hands of a professional musician, but pretty rare.

I never cared much for Guilds, overbuilt and overpriced. Ovations are controversial. Their necks are well set up and they have decent tops. They pump out the sound. But I'll tell ya, as an armchair player who sits around and plays and plays, they are actually quite awkward to hold.

I never warmed up to Ovations. I actually have one in my house that my son's aunt gave him. It plays like an electric and sounds okay. But I'll take all-wood any day, even ply over their sound. They also were the first to hit the market with built in electronics and were hugely popular with electric players who wanted to use 'em in bands and such. They were the brainchild of Charles (?) Kaman, an inventor who got rich creating military tech (I think it was some kind of helicopter innovation).

As I recall, the Takamine steels were the "F" series; F-10, F-40 and such depending on body size. They made a suh-weet 0-size, I think it was the 10. They also made a great solid-top 12 string. I loved selling those guitars, they walked out the door with a happy customer.

The biggest flaw of most steel-strings is what I mentioned before, they are quite often overbuilt because makers worry about the torque of the strings over the life of the instrument. This will offend some, but I NEVER thought Martin guitars were all that great, they were just good and well-made.
Keep in mind that my perspective is based on knowing and playing classical guitars. It's a much harder job to get good sound with nylon strings, those builders have traditionally had to work a lot harder. John Mello, who is one of the finest craftsmen in the world, make a few steels, that were phenomenally lightweight (all of his guitars always have as little wood as is necessary, making a delicate and memorable sound, not everyone's cup-o-tea) and great sounding.
When Taylor, Santa Cruz and other new-gen builders started focusing on the Steel-string guitars design (this would be the 1970s forward), they quickly exceeded Martins in sound quality. I always kept my opinions about Martins to myself, but who cares now. People will argue and argue about how great they are, but I think these newer guys make beautifully sounding and playing guitars. You get into the zone of loyalty, tradition and blind prejudice when you criticize Martins. Oh well. They were better than Guilds for sure...Gibsons were overbuilt and overfinished as well.
 
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