What's a Hipster?

[Bay Arean]

Weird thread. What do I know. I bet the 'hipster' label only exists on the internets. I haven't heard it in the real life.. much.

Wow, I really have. A lot of what I have reported here came from my son and my step-daughter (she's the one who lives near Williamsburg). She went on for hours, it seemed, and it was hilarious the detail...

But no doubt the Internet reinforces the stereotypes and amplifies it with meme pages.

 

[rsrider]

Favorite hipster vid:
[youtube]hgCqz3l33kU[/youtube]

 

[DReg350]

Hipster is the most overused, misunderstood term for a group of people ever.

If you alter your behavior in order to not be labeled a hipster that makes you kind of a hipster. Drink your PBR if you like it.

Fair enough. But, if you ever met me... at least from the pictures I've seen of "hipsters", no one would ever confuse me with one. Read geek nerd yuppie suburbanite.

I don't have anything against hipsters, cause, to be honest, I've never spent any time with one. Not that I'd be against it. I've just never had the opportunity.

My 11 year old once asked me if I discriminate. I said "yes." He said "Dad, that's bad!" I replied "No it's not and anyone who tells you they don't discriminate is a liar." I told him that I discriminate based on what's in a persons heart and what comes out of their mouth. What a person wears, who they do or don't pray to, what color they are, what culture they identify with, how they choose to satisfy their sexual desires, their politics are all irrelevant. How they treat themselves and those around them is what counts, to me.

I'd share a PBR with hipster just to learn more about 'em!

 

[Reli]

Wrong, PBR never went away.

When I said "dead" I didn't mean completely dead.

"Since 2009, sales of Bud Light, Budweiser, Miller Lite, and Miller Genuine Draft have all declined steadily. Pabst Blue Ribbon, meanwhile, saw its sales volume jump by 25.4% in 2009 alone before climbing by 17.6% in 2010 and 13.8% in 2011"

http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/blog/2013/05/23/pabst-blue-ribbon-price-hipsters/

But don't worry, once the hipsters finally realize that PBR is mainstream, they'll switch to another faux-ghetto brand, so they can act like they're "down with the struggle" (same reason they wear Carhartts and dingy-looking ski caps).

 

[revnort]

Fair enough. But, if you ever met me... at least from the pictures I've seen of "hipsters", no one would ever confuse me with one. Read geek nerd yuppie suburbanite.

I don't have anything against hipsters, cause, to be honest, I've never spent any time with one. Not that I'd be against it. I've just never had the opportunity.

My 11 year old once asked me if I discriminate. I said "yes." He said "Dad, that's bad!" I replied "No it's not and anyone who tells you they don't discriminate is a liar." I told him that I discriminate based on what's in a persons heart and what comes out of their mouth. What a person wears, who they do or don't pray to, what color they are, what culture they identify with, how they choose to satisfy their sexual desires, their politics are all irrelevant. How they treat themselves and those around them is what counts, to me.

I'd share a PBR with hipster just to learn more about 'em!

You will rarely find someone who identifies themselves as a hipster. It is pretty universally considered to be a negative term even by those to who the label most applies.

IMHO it gets overused to describe all sorts of numerous sub and counter cultures by those who don't understand them. I am not saying that hipsters don't exist though...Generally I apply the term when someone is doing something solely for fashion's sake, and not because they genuinely like it.

As someone who from a very young age has always enjoyed books, movies, and music that were outside of what is mainstream the term has been applied to me from time to time, although I think I am not, and never was a hipster (of course). Just because a new generation is discovering all of the weird shit I grew up listening to, reading, or watching, that does not make me a hipster for example...but to many they are eager to apply the label. Perhaps the label gets applied for more superficial things though, like having a beard for the past 10 years. To those paying attention I am deliberately saying I did it before it was cool for the irony.

 

[revnort]

When I said "dead" I didn't mean completely dead.

"Since 2009, sales of Bud Light, Budweiser, Miller Lite, and Miller Genuine Draft have all declined steadily. Pabst Blue Ribbon, meanwhile, saw its sales volume jump by 25.4% in 2009 alone before climbing by 17.6% in 2010 and 13.8% in 2011"

http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/blog/2013/05/23/pabst-blue-ribbon-price-hipsters/

But don't worry, once the hipsters finally realize that PBR is mainstream, they'll switch to another faux-ghetto brand, so they can act like they're "down with the struggle" (same reason they wear Carhartts and dingy-looking ski caps).

Miller was the hipster beer du jour for awhile, and still is from what I can tell. Call me crazy but I would always choose a PBR over a bud. I have never liked the stuff honestly. That said, if it's all you have I'm drinking it without a word.

 

[HappyHighwayman]

I take issues with anyone who claims to reject conformity while embracing another conformity and then shove their lack of conformity in your face.


That said I don't really have an issue with them.

 

[revnort]

I take issues with anyone who claims to reject conformity while embracing another conformity and then shove their lack of conformity in your face.

Yeah, but that isn't new. That started with Goths, wait, um Punks, or was it Beatniks, or... nah it is the "Hipsters". arty

 

[SFSV650]

I'm quite certain the vast majority of PBR drinkers don't drink it because they like it. They drink it because they pride themselves on "re-discovering" a formerly dead brand. Because after all, that's the hipster mantra: "discovering" shit in order to thumb their nose at the mainstream. Same goes for their choices in music, fashion, etc.

We drink it because it's the $2 option at the bar and we're cheap, or can't drink the double IPA's we like because we're already hung over, full from lunch, are pacing ourselves, or have to go back to work after.

(That said, $3 Tecate > $2 PBR)

 

[Yakoo752]

We drink it because it's the $2 option at the bar and we're cheap, or can't drink the double IPA's we like because we're already hung over, full from lunch, are pacing ourselves, or have to go back to work after.

(That said, $3 Tecate > $2 PBR)

I drink and tend to drink faster then most. It sometimes ends up with me pretty hammered at the end of the night. With that said, PBR is not the low abv that some think (used to be 5% but it now sits around 4.7%). Yes, it's lighter then a Lagunitas (6.7%) but it sits on par with most other full bodied lagers made in the US.

I drink PBR at times for the $2 tall boy with the piggyback shot

 

[AbsolutEnduser]

Yeah, but that isn't new. That started with Goths, wait, um Punks, or was it Beatniks, or... nah it is the "Hipsters". arty

I don't think Goths shove their lack of conformity or conformity in anyone's face. Dunno maybe it happens in other borroughs.

Unless you mean like Marylin Manson

Wow, I really have. A lot of what I have reported here came from my son and my step-daughter (she's the one who lives near Williamsburg). She went on for hours, it seemed, and it was hilarious the detail...

But no doubt the Internet reinforces the stereotypes and amplifies it with meme pages.

Oh.. so you hear it from others. Okay.

 

[DReg350]

I take issues with anyone who claims to reject conformity while embracing another conformity and then shove their lack of conformity in your face.

That's kind of a take away here isn't it? Reject conformity while embracing another conformity. Ironically, they've morphed into conformists through ironic expression.

I'm still trying to wrap my head around the education and economics of this group. Some info points to under-educated while others indicate over-educated. Some says under-employed while others point out access to disposable income. I'm sure it's all over the map, but I'm wondering if the core falls into one group or the other.

 

[revnort]

I drink and tend to drink faster then most. It sometimes ends up with me pretty hammered at the end of the night. With that said, PBR is not the low abv that some think (used to be 5% but it now sits around 4.7%). Yes, it's lighter then a Lagunitas (6.7%) but it sits on par with most other full bodied lagers made in the US.

I drink PBR at times for the $2 tall boy with the piggyback shot

It is true. Tecate and Trumer are both about 4.8 as well, but you're not going to get much lower than that without going to a lite beer.

Mostly it is the taste to be honest. I enjoy a more full flavored beer, but if I am going to be having 5-6 beers over a couple hours I don't want a really strong flavor. Same goes for if it is hot out, I don't want a hop bomb, or a thick and syrupy porter. Just light flavor, watery and goes down easy.

 

[jdhu]

I'm still trying to wrap my head around the education and economics of this group. Some info points to under-educated while others indicate over-educated. Some says under-employed while others point out access to disposable income. I'm sure it's all over the map, but I'm wondering if the core falls into one group or the other.

LOL, well my opinion only, but I would term them "mis-educated." They often seem to have degrees in philosophy, race/gender studies, etc. So, they have a degree, but it may not be that applicable/useful. They tend to come from middle/upper-middle class backgrounds, but are under-employed (often living at home). Their minimal income goes to iPods.

 

[revnort]

I don't think Goths shove their lack of conformity or conformity in anyone's face. Dunno maybe it happens in other borroughs.

Unless you mean like Marylin Manson

Yeah Marylin Manson, and mall goths. I was mostly riffing off of hot tpoic and the goths in southpark who call everyone conformists.

Anyway, the point I was making was still valid.

 

[Bay Arean]

but if I am going to be having 5-6 beers over a couple hours I don't want a really strong flavor. Same goes for if it is hot out, I don't want a hop bomb, or a thick and syrupy porter. Just light flavor, watery and goes down easy.

At last, I understand what "banquet beer" means!!!

 

[Zerox]

Anti-post of the day.

You hipsters and your crazy beards.

 

[Karbon]

Weird. I've always figured the issue of shoving non-conformity in people's faces was relegated to teens and very young who are trying to find some semblance of personal identity. I think after 21-24 you just do stuff you like, and maybe learn how to take the shit you get from other people about what interests you like.

 

[Bay Arean]

Weird. I've always figured the issue of shoving non-conformity in people's faces was relegated to teens and very young who are trying to find some semblance of personal identity. I think after 21-24 you just do stuff you like, and maybe learn how to take the shit you get from other people about what interests like.

Well, that cuts to the heart of what I meant about "re-inventing" yourself. You don't really do that unless you feel insecure or ambivalent about who you are.

Our society is more immature than ever, with the "kidult" phenomena being the norm for decades now. It shouldn't surprise anyone that adolescence has stretched forward into the 20s, come to think of it. Our educational system got ravaged by outcome-based philosophy, corporate advertising promotes immaturity (because they make more outer-based purchasing decisions, bro), so people seem kinda goofy for a longer period. It also doesn;t seem like much of a stretch to go from pretending in role-playing video games, to adopting an ersatz social lifestyle of pretend clothes and behavior.

The traditional remedy for immaturity has been going to war (or at least service) for the men, and perhaps mutual hardship for women in our society. With our much smaller professional military, maybe we don't have the impact of past days. I really doubt there are many ex-marine hipsters, for example.

If you think about it, a hipster in nerd goggles is kinda like the little kid dressing up in Daddy's suit and looking in the mirror. That's the image I keep thinking of. They just don't seem that grown up to be chasing so many trendoids.

 

[God]

Hipstirs ride cafe racers, with boot cut jeans, rolled up show some ankle and 3/4 helmet so he can have his Ray Bans on. Which is a shame, I like the style of cafe racers.