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When should we stop riding? -- perspectives of an older rider

Doc.

We have the same exact perspective, but my goal is 80 for now.
 
Doc.

We have the same exact perspective, but my goal is 80 for now.
I am going to do an evaluation at 80, just over 5 years away. Hard to think about not riding, it is what I do. After I get this new knee broken in I might look for a lower motorcycle.

I have 3 friends riding past 80 one past 90.
 
Who’s got the Can-Am Spyder but ain’t talking!?
Not me but I have two friends who have moved to a Spyder. One has drop foot and just can't shift his bike anymore. The other friend is 82 and after this 4 way bypass can't hold a bike up anymore. He put just short of 80K miles in 3 years on his first Spyder and just got a new one. It keeps him riding with our group and we will always wait for him to catch up. The bad thing on a spyder is you can not miss pot holes.
 
The recent reports of casualties of experienced expert bikers, plus my own experiences on the highways, have led me to pondering when I should consider parking the bike permanently. I encourage responses of all levels and ages of riders -- those over 50, who might be having the same thoughts as me, and those much younger, because, like it or not, you will be old someday too if your luck does not run out sooner.

NOTE: I apologize for the length of this post -- I guess I needed to set the stage for all this.

I am nearing 59 years old. I learned to ride a Honda S90 when I was 15, then rode a dirtbike for a while, then spent years in the Navy riding a wide variety of street bikes owned by my shipmates (Triumphs, BSA, BMW, Harley, Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki, Puch(!) and many more I have forgotten I left motorcycles behind for a while when I was in my late 20's , switching to bicycling, and riding motorcycles only occassionally until about ten years ago. It was then that I sent my son to MSF training, and decided to go along and do the course with him just for fun. I remembered how much fun I was having and decided to get back into motorcycling.

I consider myself to be a very expert, experienced and safe rider. Despite riding for nearly 44 years, I have never once been in an accident, nor dropped a bike on the street.

I ride one of my vintage Kawasakis from Berkeley to SF nearly every weekday (although I avoid the rain). I am in generally decent physical shape, have good reflexes, and corrected vision. My balance is very good (something that usually deteriorates with age), probably because of my long term motorcycle and bicycle riding.

That said, I must be the first to acknowledge that I do not have the physical capabilities I had at my peak (which for me was in my mid to late 30's, when I was doing century rides and San Francisco hillclimbs on my Bianchi ). While motorcycling, I now make up for this with my knowledge and experience, knowing what is the right thing to do at all times, plus not riding like a foolish teenager who just discovered that sex and motorcycle riding are a lot alike. Without doubt, I am slower, with weaker senses (eyes and ears) than I once had, less than perfect balance, and losing a little bit of the physical edge every year.

I am a realist. Ageing is a one-way street, sloping downhill at an increasing rate. I know that doing this at age 75 is not realistic, unless someone finds the fountain of youth soon.

Combine the above with the madness that I see everyday on the freeways and the Bay Bridge, with weaving inattentive drivers during commute hours, and road racing intoxicated idiots later at night (since I sometimes work late). Then, around the urban streets, I see people pulling in front of me from all sides, even though I wear very bright yellow and black gear. I have had a few scary moments, but have never had what I would consider to be a "close call", yet.

I have no desire to go out in a flameball. I prefer to die in bed, at a very old age, making love to my wife.

I love motorcycling, which I believe energizes me and keeps me young at heart, and helps relieve the stress from my high pressure work (I am a lawyer). BUT, I truly want to live to see my children grow up and give me grandchildren, and to travel to far off places with my lovely wife, who has grudgingly induged my motorcycling thus far.

So, fellow riders, at what point do I leave this behind, accepting the physical limitations that come with age, that in turn make this an unsafe risk to myself and my family?
Old Ape not seen on BARF since 2022.

Maybe it's time for a BARF roll call ?
 
Old Ape not seen on BARF since 2022.

Maybe it's time for a BARF roll call ?
He would be 76 this year. Hopefully all is well with him.
 
I should get off my 69 year old ass and change the oil and filter in my F800ST.
Or better yet, bring it over to my house and we'll knock it out before a ride!
My garage is a full shop.
You know where to find me.....
 
Something I've thought about.

I'm 72 and have ridden for maybe 55 years. For the last 7 years, my only bike was a '16 BMW XR, which used for long rides (LA > Bozeman), trackdays, and general hooning.

But last year I started noticing that I had a harder time keeping my awareness "ahead" of the bike. For explanation, I find that when my awareness is 'on' the bike, I'm constantly reacting, which means I'm late, anxious, and in my mind, dangerous. When I feel like my awareness is a three or four bikelengths ahead of the bike, I'm not in reaction mode any more.

Plus I found it harder to muscle the bike.

So I bought a smaller, lighter, less powerful bike - a KTM 890SMT which so far has been a hoot. I may or may not track day any more, but I'm having a much easier time staying ahead of the bike.

I love the XR, thought about selling it, but may keep it and try one more time in the spring and see where I am with it.
 
Good perspective.

I am currently healing an oweeee. Sure hope it does not have a lasting affect on my riding. Saddling up for an 8 hr ride has me wondering.
 
Something I've thought about.

I'm 72 and have ridden for maybe 55 years. For the last 7 years, my only bike was a '16 BMW XR, which used for long rides (LA > Bozeman), trackdays, and general hooning.

But last year I started noticing that I had a harder time keeping my awareness "ahead" of the bike. For explanation, I find that when my awareness is 'on' the bike, I'm constantly reacting, which means I'm late, anxious, and in my mind, dangerous. When I feel like my awareness is a three or four bikelengths ahead of the bike, I'm not in reaction mode any more.

Plus I found it harder to muscle the bike.

So I bought a smaller, lighter, less powerful bike - a KTM 890SMT which so far has been a hoot. I may or may not track day any more, but I'm having a much easier time staying ahead of the bike.

I love the XR, thought about selling it, but may keep it and try one more time in the spring and see where I am with it.
At 73 I sold my 2014 1200GS and bought a KTM 890 Adventure R and that engine is a beast for it's size and bike weight, but after a few fall overs in the dirt and picking it up sold it and went back to a BMW 1200GS and stick to fire roads for off road. But if I wasn't looking for long distance travel the KTM 890SMT would be a great option except the pile of tickets I'd collect!
 
I'm going to be 68 in February. I got back into track days 3 years ago and, just like when I first started doing them, I'm improving my riding again. I know that there is a bigger risk at my age for broken bones etc but fast riding is keeping my mind sharp. ( My wife might disagree !). I plan on continuing to ride until I just can't get out to the bike. And I'm sure a Can Am is somewhere in my future.

Mad
 
70 now. Still riding most days. Still have MBS. These days the main bikes that capture my interest are those that are lighter than any I own currently. On one of the Cycle World podcasts, Kevin Cameron told a story about having lunch with Mert Lawill and Malcolm Smith. At the end of the lunch, one of them - I don't remember which - reportedly told Kevin, "Weight is the enemy". I've largely weaned myself off of big HP numbers, so don't be surprised if my next bike is somewhere between a 390 and a 450.

As for other alternatives, I have no interest in a cruiser, but would consider one before a trike. I get that people would want one, but if it can't lean or split lanes, I'd rather have some sort of convertible.
 
When you can’t stay focused. Im 73 and limit my riding to track days only.
 
My brother at 67yo, towed his '23 HD RG from Florida to Cali to ride our coast with another brother and I. Inspiration implementation.
I'll be 50 next year. It'll be my physical limitations judged by my "personal ability sensors" that I'm trusting to let me know when to say when.
I've gone several hundred thousand miles on 2 wheels. I see no end in sight/mind.
 
At 73 I sold my 2014 1200GS and bought a KTM 890 Adventure R and that engine is a beast for it's size and bike weight, but after a few fall overs in the dirt and picking it up sold it and went back to a BMW 1200GS and stick to fire roads for off road. But if I wasn't looking for long distance travel the KTM 890SMT would be a great option except the pile of tickets I'd collect!
Yeah, the other use case for the SMT is travel in our RV - we bought a 5th wheel and my wife's MY07 and the SMT are perfect for day rides around wherever we wind up.

We were just in central CA - Pinnacles > Paso > Yosemite and we'll do another trip there in early spring. Plotting out a bigger trip to the east Coast for next year.
 
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