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2010 + Ducati Multistrada - what do you not like?

stan23 said:
:nchantr I'm at that uncomfortable stage where, i'm already looking at the next bike, and the parts i've ordered for this bike haven't even arrived yet (DP rear comfort seat to match the front)

:cool



I just like trying different bikes. And no, a test ride won't do it for me. To me, I need to own the bike -- work on it, and then decide if it will work with me. An upright sitting Panigale would be on the top of my list right now.:)



I'll hold it for you brother. It's just a passing thought. I keep showing pics of the Panigale to my wife, and she just rolls her eyes. haha
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Holy shit, I thought you were kidding at first. You've owned this bike for a month and you're already thinking of selling it?!

If you are thinking Panigale, I implore you to go test ride the new Tuono V4R right after you ride the Panigale. I will bet you $50 you buy the Tuono before the Panigale, unless either a) you rate bikes solely by their looks or b) you're looking solely for a track bike.
 
Archimedes said:
Holy shit, I thought you were kidding at first. You've owned this bike for a month and you're already thinking of selling it?!

If you are thinking Panigale, I implore you to go test ride the new Tuono V4R right after you ride the Panigale. I will bet you $50 you buy the Tuono before the Panigale, unless either a) you rate bikes solely by their looks or b) you're looking solely for a track bike.
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:) It's what I do on the side. I buy low, sell high and that's why i've been able to afford the luxury of buying bikes for free--free as in using my profits.

The Tuono is an interesting choice. I'll take a closer look.

For those insterested, My Multistrada quest began with this bike: http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=356829&highlight=dakar

I started with $1500 seed money.
 
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stan23 said:
:) It's what I do on the side. I buy low, sell high and that's why i've been able to afford the luxury of buying bikes for free--free as in using my profits.

The Tuono is an interesting choice. I'll take a closer look.
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If my house was on fire, I'd go back in for the wife, kids, dog and my Tuono. The Multi would burn.
 
Heading out to look at bikes today. Also want to sit on the SF 848. I love the idea of a fun little street fighter.

But I did pull the bike out and took a pic. Maybe I can't quit it just yet!

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number_6 said:
Now that you have the Multi, does it retroactively change your opinion of the GS at all? Now that you are more aware of the relative strengths and weaknesses?
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To be honest, the Multi is not the 'GS' killer it appears to be on paper. The GS is still a great bike even after owning the Multi. The GS handles great and is very confidence inspiring. If I had to pick a bike and ride across the country, it would be the GS hands down. The bike handles great, is super easy to ride, and has a very nice flat torque curve. A no surprises kind of bike. After owning one, I can see why BMW sold so many of them.

As for the Multi, I still find the motor absolutely amazing. I don't really finding myself changing modes all that often (i'm usually in touring) but in sport mode, the motor really shows it's true colors. It truly is a full-fledged sportbike. I'm still trying to figure out the chassis--the bike does not seem to handle as well as it should when not pushed, but i'm sure with time, i'll get it dialed in to my liking. There are times on the Multi, where i'm coming off a corner, I open the throttle a bit--bike still leaned over with the front end a few inches off the ground, and the TC kicks unobtrusively, giving you a very controlled ham-fisted corner exit. A lot of fun!

I think i'm going to get rid of those OEM trail type tires. I'm not a fan of the flat profile at all.

Overall, i'm glad I changed over to the Multi. It does everything well, and I know i'm barely starting to scratch the surface of the bike. But to be honest, if I had to do it all over again, i'd buy the base ABS model, and get the suspension valved and sprung to my liking and leave it at that.
 
stan23 said:
To be honest, the Multi is not the 'GS' killer it appears to be on paper. The GS is still a great bike even after owning the Multi. The GS handles great and is very confidence inspiring. If I had to pick a bike and ride across the country, it would be the GS hands down. The bike handles great, is super easy to ride, and has a very nice flat torque curve. A no surprises kind of bike. After owning one, I can see why BMW sold so many of them.

As for the Multi, I still find the motor absolutely amazing. I don't really finding myself changing modes all that often (i'm usually in touring) but in sport mode, the motor really shows it's true colors. It truly is a full-fledged sportbike. I'm still trying to figure out the chassis--the bike does not seem to handle as well as it should when not pushed, but i'm sure with time, i'll get it dialed in to my liking. There are times on the Multi, where i'm coming off a corner, I open the throttle a bit--bike still leaned over with the front end a few inches off the ground, and the TC kicks unobtrusively, giving you a very controlled ham-fisted corner exit. A lot of fun!

I think i'm going to get rid of those OEM trail type tires. I'm not a fan of the flat profile at all.

Overall, i'm glad I changed over to the Multi. It does everything well, and I know i'm barely starting to scratch the surface of the bike. But to be honest, if I had to do it all over again, i'd buy the base ABS model, and get the suspension valved and sprung to my liking and leave it at that.
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oh christ, get rid of those scorpions! Slap a set of pr3's or Angles and you will fall in love all over again ;) And yes getting the right spring really helps the front end dive I've found.
 
stan23 said:
To be honest, the Multi is not the 'GS' killer it appears to be on paper. The GS is still a great bike even after owning the Multi. The GS handles great and is very confidence inspiring. If I had to pick a bike and ride across the country, it would be the GS hands down.
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That's really all you had to say. :teeth
 
Ducposer said:
oh christ, get rid of those scorpions! Slap a set of pr3's or Angles and you will fall in love all over again ;) And yes getting the right spring really helps the front end dive I've found.
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Yeah, i'll probably throw some new tires on this week. Still need to set the front preload too.

Zerox said:
That's really all you had to say. :teeth
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:)
 
Very nice Stan. Im thinking about doing a over night trip this Sunday and Monday in the Sierras. Veterans day weekend. You should come. I promise to keep it tame. :teeth
 
A buddy of mine, who rides a ST1300 (purchased new in '05), had the 'HOTS' for a BMW. He was leaning towards the RT, but the GS was also a possibility. A buddy of his had just purchased a '12 RT and he rode it last week and was totally appointed. He was very disappointed that the bike performed so poorly (his words, not mine) and there was no way he was selling his '05 ST and spending $20K for the RT. He has ridden a GS, but I think after the disappointment of the RT......

On Saturday, he spent an hour on my MTS, ridding it from Willits to Garberville. When he got off my bike, and I quote, his response was "OMG...why would you buy a BMW over this?" Now he's ready to sell his ST and buy a MTS.
 
I owned a GS Adventure for a few years before buying my Multi, and I 100% concur with Stan's assessment.

I sold my GSA as I couldn't stomach the idea of owning two $20k motorcycles, but I regret it to some extent. If I had to do it again I would keep the GSA and buy the Sport/PP Multi, using the BMW for any significant touring (better comfort, protection, luggage) and the Duc purely as a comfortable sport bike. I may end up with another GS for these reasons....

The bikes aren't really competitors. The GS is a swiss army knife, the most versatile, confidence-inspiring motorcycle you can buy. The Multi is a comfortable, long-suspension, open-class sport bike.

EDIT: regarding the RT, it's hardly a slouch. For many riders it's a better choice than the GS, just not as butch. It's way lighter than an ST1300, they make the same torque, and the HP advantage of the 5-speed (!?) Honda doesn't make up for the extra pork. I have few buddies who absolutely rail on RTs. Following them on an ST would be a workout.
 
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WeekEndWarrior said:
Very nice Stan. Im thinking about doing a over night trip this Sunday and Monday in the Sierras. Veterans day weekend. You should come. I promise to keep it tame. :teeth
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Hey Tim, which part? I thought most passes were already closed? I'll keep it in mind.

3B43 said:
A buddy of mine, who rides a ST1300 (purchased new in '05), had the 'HOTS' for a BMW. He was leaning towards the RT, but the GS was also a possibility. A buddy of his had just purchased a '12 RT and he rode it last week and was totally appointed. He was very disappointed that the bike performed so poorly (his words, not mine) and there was no way he was selling his '05 ST and spending $20K for the RT. He has ridden a GS, but I think after the disappointment of the RT......

On Saturday, he spent an hour on my MTS, ridding it from Willits to Garberville. When he got off my bike, and I quote, his response was "OMG...why would you buy a BMW over this?" Now he's ready to sell his ST and buy a MTS.
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I know that some folks 'get' the BMW boxer and some don't. I had not ridden one prior to owning my GS, but as soon as I rode it and saw how it pulled from 2K rpm and up, and the funky vibes it made. I loved it. The motor has so much character. Unlike most folks--even owners, I actually like the way they sound! I put headers and a LV slip-on on mine and once you get on the pipe, it was music to my ears.

Mr.P said:
Stan; you should do motorcycle reviews.
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haha, I doubt anyone would want to read what I write. Although in a previous life, I had a been a published ipod (remember those?) reviewer.

CurveSurfer said:
I owned a GS Adventure for a few years before buying my Multi, and I 100% concur with Stan's assessment.

I sold my GSA as I couldn't stomach the idea of owning two $20k motorcycles, but I regret it to some extent. If I had to do it again I would keep the GSA and buy the Sport/PP Multi, using the BMW for any significant touring (better comfort, protection, luggage) and the Duc purely as a comfortable sport bike. I may end up with another GS for these reasons....

The bikes aren't really competitors. The GS is a swiss army knife, the most versatile, confidence-inspiring motorcycle you can buy. The Multi is a comfortable, long-suspension, open-class sport bike.

EDIT: regarding the RT, it's hardly a slouch. For many riders it's a better choice than the GS, just not as butch. It's way lighter than an ST1300, they make the same torque, and the HP advantage of the 5-speed (!?) Honda doesn't make up for the extra pork. I have few buddies who absolutely rail on RTs. Following them on an ST would be a workout.
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:thumbup
 
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