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95 mpg

^^^
Well, after the storm on the east coast last year, hybrids and EVs were the only cars running past all the cars waiting in the gas lines because they got the electricity up faster in most places than they could get gas trucks in....

Lots of points and counterpoints in this thread. :laughing
 
drove down to Fremont to drop my suit at Helimot today - got 58mpg average for the whole trip


just sayin' :teeth


:x
 
This thread is getting sillier by the day. I had lunch at a nice place two weeks ago with a CFO from a publicly traded tech company - he pulled up in a Volt (and I've seen his Porsche 911 on other occasions). The company's former CEO drove a Prius and so did their VP of Sales. Out of the three of them, I knew one of them was a genuine greenie and the other two just bought a 'pass' for the commuter lanes. I also know a shitload of sales guys who will buy whatever car will get them access to the commuter lanes. These aren't poor people who are trying to save money commuting, they could afford a Ferrari if they wanted to commute in one. However the Ferrari would sit in traffic with the rest of the unwashed masses so if they have the money to spend they get themselves another car that allows them to skip the traffic and jump in the commuter lanes. Don't worry, they still have their fancy cars in the 6-car garage in the hills, they just happen to have the extra money for the additional car that allows them to skip rush hour traffic.

Don't assume that everybody who drives a Volt is a greenie or just wants to save money...
 
I can afford a GTR and other sports car with similar pricing but I drive a prius that I bought for 6k. WTF am I doing? I guess I love having dough. I love it when people buy new BMW and have to make big montHly payments and look at me funny. Little do they know, I can buy their car with cash :)

Don't get me wrong. I've had many sports cars and muscle cars but at this point, I don't crave for it. When I do, I'll buy one then sell it when I don't want to keep it. I don't get attached to cars. I suppose that's a good thing?
 
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Johndicezx9 said:
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Well, after the storm on the east coast last year, hybrids and EVs were the only cars running past all the cars waiting in the gas lines because they got the electricity up faster in most places than they could get gas trucks in....
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I was reading an article on the post-storm fun and down in the comments the conversation drifted into how people were coping before the power was back on. One guy related a story about how he got up one morning and found somone had pulled their plug-in prius up in his driveway and hooked it into his generator overnight, helping themselves to a charge.

Don't know how true the story is, but pretty funny if it is.

Pre-post edit: A quick google search found a blog referencing the post - it was on the Atlantic originally...

http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com/...teals-power-from-victims-emergency-generator/

Though I don't know if it is fair to presume that the thief was truly an Obama supporter - evidence would suggest that Prius are shipped with those stickers on them.
 
jt2 said:
I was reading an article on the post-storm fun and down in the comments the conversation drifted into how people were coping before the power was back on. One guy related a story about how he got up one morning and found somone had pulled their plug-in prius up in his driveway and hooked it into his generator overnight, helping themselves to a charge.

Don't know how true the story is, but pretty funny if it is.

Pre-post edit: A quick google search found a blog referencing the post - it was on the Atlantic originally...

http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com/...teals-power-from-victims-emergency-generator/

Though I don't know if it is fair to presume that the thief was truly an Obama supporter - evidence would suggest that Prius are shipped with those stickers on them.
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About as safe as presuming this guy is probably against gun control!

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/11/0...-gas-stations-as-pumps-run-dry-in-wake-sandy/

:laughing
 
Asphaultnaut said:
remember "rolling blackouts" caused by nothing more than politicians trying to hide their mismanagement of power capability?

How do you get to work when your part of town is blacked out and you can't charge?

How does a networked drive system work when the network is down, like BART line problems?

That's just the predictable normal "issues" this state ALWAYS has with infrastructure. Before you look into the abuses taken already to provide or protect those citizens and servants more valuable than the rest of us.

did everyone forget all the police radio issues when the Prez was in town? You don't think a networked drive system (privately owned by a large corporation like Google) wouldn't "accidentally" suffer similar convenient failures?

I can save more fuel, traffic load and highway wear without making it easier for a very few to harm a great many.


http://www.laalmanac.com/immigration/im04a.htm

If only 10% are driving cars in this state, that's 260,000 vehicles removed. Any guesses on the amount of "greenhouse gasses" and fuel saved?

If saving the planet, getting rid of oil dependency is *really* the purpose of networked cars and single-source energy vehicles, instead of politics and transferring money from texan oil barons to California utility operators, this would be the easiest and cheapest place to start. :p
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With V2G technology (vehicle to grid), the Volt, PHEVs and EVs can be used to save the grid from blacking out, by drawing a insignificant amount of juice out of the battery or range extender. Overall, the grid is more efficient.

A lot of EV owners like to charge 100% renewable and have solar or wind generators on there roof, so in the event of a blackout, they may be able to charge anyway with the right system.

Of course the Volt does not need to charge to keep going as long as you have gas in the thing.
 
Killroy1999 said:
A lot of EV owners like to charge 100% renewable and have solar or wind generators on there roof, so in the event of a blackout, they may be able to charge anyway with the right system.

Of course the Volt does not need to charge to keep going as long as you have gas in the thing.
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The vast majority of solar installations shut off in the event of a blackout. On top of that, most people are home in the evening, when solar panels aren't producing. The most practical scenario where solar is concerned is the usual net metering approach, where you're sending power to the grid during the day and drawing power from it at night when the car is plugged in.
 
afmotorsports said:
This thread is getting sillier by the day. I had lunch at a nice place two weeks ago with a CFO from a publicly traded tech company - he pulled up in a Volt (and I've seen his Porsche 911 on other occasions). The company's former CEO drove a Prius and so did their VP of Sales. Out of the three of them, I knew one of them was a genuine greenie and the other two just bought a 'pass' for the commuter lanes. I also know a shitload of sales guys who will buy whatever car will get them access to the commuter lanes. These aren't poor people who are trying to save money commuting, they could afford a Ferrari if they wanted to commute in one. However the Ferrari would sit in traffic with the rest of the unwashed masses so if they have the money to spend they get themselves another car that allows them to skip the traffic and jump in the commuter lanes. Don't worry, they still have their fancy cars in the 6-car garage in the hills, they just happen to have the extra money for the additional car that allows them to skip rush hour traffic.

Don't assume that everybody who drives a Volt is a greenie or just wants to save money...
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Why not just pay a day laborer to sit with you in the Ferrari?

Unlimited car pool access and job creation.

:twofinger
 
I've seen Larry Ellison commuting in his Lexus LFA. I must've been seeing things. And you guys talking of CEOs and what not buying high mileage cars and leaving the 911 at home? Must be bullshitting us.

Traffic is for poor/ dumb people remember?
 
caideN said:
I can afford a GTR and other sports car with similar pricing but I drive a prius that I bought for 6k. WTF am I doing? I guess I love having dough. I love it when people buy new BMW and have to make big montHly payments and look at me funny. Little do they know, I can buy their car with cash :)

Don't get me wrong. I've had many sports cars and muscle cars but at this point, I don't crave for it. When I do, I'll buy one then sell it when I don't want to keep it. I don't get attached to cars. I suppose that's a good thing?
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I'm with you 100% :thumbup

I think my net worth is well over six figures to the good because I drive cars till they stop working and have owned only 3 since I was 18, (I'm now 56).

Get my fast car jollies with the '94 MX5 in the twisties, (you really can't use a Porsche 911's true capabilities and expect not to kill a cyclist, hit a deer or get a massive ticket as they never outrun my pathetic little 4 cylinder), did a bunch of Bondurant Schools, (loved the Roush Mustangs...the Formula Vees, not so much), and, of course, motorcycles.

Buying a car to avoid gridlock by using the fast lane makes a ton of sense to me, (as does owning a bike for the very same reason).

Even one day of driving in gridlock does this to me:wtf if I had to do it every day I'd be :loco.
 
Njoy the cold, rain, and other less than ideal weather conditions. I'll be sitting comfy with the seat heater (yes I know this is CA but I leave for work at 6am and it's fucking cold) and satellite radio.
 
afmotorsports said:
This thread is getting sillier by the day. I had lunch at a nice place two weeks ago with a CFO from a publicly traded tech company - he pulled up in a Volt (and I've seen his Porsche 911 on other occasions). The company's former CEO drove a Prius and so did their VP of Sales. Out of the three of them, I knew one of them was a genuine greenie and the other two just bought a 'pass' for the commuter lanes. I also know a shitload of sales guys who will buy whatever car will get them access to the commuter lanes. These aren't poor people who are trying to save money commuting, they could afford a Ferrari if they wanted to commute in one. However the Ferrari would sit in traffic with the rest of the unwashed masses so if they have the money to spend they get themselves another car that allows them to skip the traffic and jump in the commuter lanes. Don't worry, they still have their fancy cars in the 6-car garage in the hills, they just happen to have the extra money for the additional car that allows them to skip rush hour traffic.

Don't assume that everybody who drives a Volt is a greenie or just wants to save money...
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Somewhat plausible but it's cheaper just to tint your windows a bit and accept that $500 ticket every three years or so as a fee you can amortize across that period. Not that I would ever do that.
 
Ok let's do the math...

How many years do I need to keep a real doll riding shotgun before it pays for itself in carpool lane tickets that I avoided?
 
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