AB1371 - Another victory the spandex squad

[ohio]

Never would have thought I'd see arguments in a motorcycle forum for more regulation and taxation of road use.

You'd rather have bigger government and more laws just to make it "fair" for all of the wear and tear that 0.5hp put through a 1 square inch contact patch can produce? Fucking priorities, people.

 

[Valgar]

I'm going to strap on my monocle, wax up my mustache, and flaunt the law by riding my penny-farthing in the center of the lane!

 

[ktm_guy]

My concern isn't having to provide a 3' bubble while passing on my mot, but the oncoming car providing a 3' bubble to the cyclist in his lane, putting him/her across the DY into my lane. Already happens too much without a 3' bubble requirement, not there's a law forcing it. The flip side is a car in my lane going the speed of the cyclist because they don't have room for a 3' bubble without illegally crossing the DY, creating another hazard.

Now you've hit my button. I live off Calavaras Rd (narrow mountain road) above Milpitas. It's a popular bicycle road with no extra space for the bikes. As I see a car+bike heading toward me I am on the look out for the dumbass car to cross DY to pass and be head on with me It happens quite a bit and of course the bike rider is in extreme danger at that point. I flash hi beams and honk but give as much as I can to reduce danger to bike rider.

What the hell are they thinking?? Just like any pass you must wait for on coming traffic to clear before crossing DY to pass, even if that means slowing down to the speed of the bike going up hill.

 

[two wheel tramp]

The NSA backdoors into your odometer and reports it to the IRS.

Enters in the backdoor? arty

 

[aram]

Never would have thought I'd see arguments in a motorcycle forum for more regulation and taxation of road use.

You'd rather have bigger government and more laws just to make it "fair" for all of the wear and tear that 0.5hp put through a 1 square inch contact patch can produce? Fucking priorities, people.

I'd be pretty happy if I could put out .5 hp for more than 5 minutes.

It is funny listening to the responses about taxes on here. It's like people don't get how modern society and taxes work. Get over it, not everyone pays into everything or pays their fair "share" (whatever that means).

Now you've hit my button. I live off Calavaras Rd (narrow mountain road) above Milpitas. It's a popular bicycle road with no extra space for the bikes. As I see a car+bike heading toward me I am on the look out for the dumbass car to cross DY to pass and be head on with me It happens quite a bit and of course the bike rider is in extreme danger at that point. I flash hi beams and honk but give as much as I can to reduce danger to bike rider.

What the hell are they thinking?? Just like any pass you must wait for on coming traffic to clear before crossing DY to pass, even if that means slowing down to the speed of the bike going up hill.

I've seen people come close, but one day I'm going to see someone cream an oncoming car passing a bicycle over the DY into a blind corner. But you can't blame pedestrians for the guy rear-ending you when you come to a stop at a crosswalk.

 

[stangmx13]

I'm going to strap on my monocle, wax up my mustache, and flaunt the law by riding my penny-farthing in the center of the lane!

if i gotta register and insure my bicycle, fuck ya im riding in the center of the lane.

 

[babyhuyx]

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Originally Posted by babyhuyx

Tell me about it. I get taxed so much on my Bonus and stocks its retarded. 70% on rsu...like really!? Its not like I worked my ass off the entire year for some RSU bonus just so they can take 70%!!

Poor you! May I please quote you at the next volunteering at the shelter? BTW, fire your mofo CPA and hire Romney's.

Your right. Poor me. I have a 6 figure student loan. You wanna help me pay it? The cost of higher education makes makes my salary very mediocre as far as silicon Valley is concerned. It really ticks me off when people bring up the homeless shelter or the poor and down trodden as some sort of argument.
I spend my entire in life in a classroom to get a career and make money to buy house and support a future family, but it's not possible because every fucking year they seem to think students grow money from trees and increase tuition few thousand. You wanna say boohoo look at the shelter? How about boohoo my 30k per semester tuition that I'll be paying back the next 20 years.





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[Surj]

Yeah, first hand. That's my point. The renters aren't paying the RIGHT taxes, they aren't paying property taxes. Exactly the way cyclists aren't paying road taxes at the moment they are cycling.

I'm not even getting into the tax argument. Just pointing out that the property taxes on that property still go into the kitty. You can argue about whether the renter or the owner is actually paying, I guess. I just don't care that much about whether everyone is paying exactly the right tax at just the right time, as it seems you do. Who cares if they're paying taxes specifically via some bike-oriented tax? As others have pointed out, the vast majority of cyclists pay taxes on as and thus contribute.

Surj, ad valorem is a liability owed by the owner and (presumably) passed through to the renter via the rent payment. The renter (almost) always pays for everything, and the owner bears the risks of ownership.

Yeah, I know. Used to have a rental up in Sac. I was just calling out that the money is still going in, whether it's technically the renter or the owner paying. So the education of the renter kids (oh my god, renters!) still gets paid for, and they get to stay in school.

 

[aram]

Your right. Poor me. I have a 6 figure student loan. You wanna help me pay it? The cost of higher education makes makes my salary very mediocre as far as silicon Valley is concerned. It really ticks me off when people bring up the homeless shelter or the poor and down trodden as some sort of argument.
I spend my entire in life in a classroom to get a career and make money to buy house and support a future family, but it's not possible because every fucking year they seem to think students grow money from trees and increase tuition few thousand. You wanna say boohoo look at the shelter? How about boohoo my 30k per semester tuition that I'll be paying back the next 20 years.





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boohoo.

I just got my masters and tuition was only 13k a year. Not that bad. Plus you can stick it to all the taxpayers that are helping fund your education (just like you are now ). Plus there are government subsidized loans and grants you could have applied for if you were that poor.

It's called public school (which your tax dollars put to work). Ok, public law school is probably 20k+ a year now and public med school is probably more, but the more mundane stuff isn't that expensive and if you went to public med school you'd pay off your loans pretty fast once you started working.

 

[MCCRASH]

WTF is this thread about again? Taxes? Student loans? Being backdoored by the government? Bubbles? RSUs? Sheeeeettt. I'm gonna go back to the garage and work on my mothafunking pennyfarthing.

 

[babyhuyx]

boohoo.

I just got my masters and tuition was only 13k a year. Not that bad. Plus you can stick it to all the taxpayers that are helping fund your education (just like you are now ). Plus there are government subsidized loans and grants you could have applied for if you were that poor.

It's called public school (which your tax dollars put to work). Ok, public law school is probably 20k+ a year now and public med school is probably more, but the more mundane stuff isn't that expensive and if you went to public med school you'd pay off your loans pretty fast once you started working.

I go to UOP and i wish mine was 13k a year Its roughly 30k a SEMESTER, pell/federal un/sub loan cover about half, the other half comes from private loans. Summer classes aren't covered by financial aid. All out of pocket.
I've never heard of a public med school in california. Is Davis considered public?

 

[Surj]

I go to UOP and i wish mine was 13k a year Its roughly 30k a SEMESTER, pell/federal un/sub loan cover about half, the other half comes from private loans. Summer classes aren't covered by financial aid. All out of pocket.
I've never heard of a public med school in california. Is Davis considered public?

You're gonna be a doctor. You'll do just fine once you pay off your loans, and acting like it's some hardship is pretty silly.

 

[babyhuyx]

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Originally Posted by babyhuyx

I go to UOP and i wish mine was 13k a year Its roughly 30k a SEMESTER, pell/federal un/sub loan cover about half, the other half comes from private loans. Summer classes aren't covered by financial aid. All out of pocket.
I've never heard of a public med school in california. Is Davis considered public?

You're gonna be a doctor. You'll do just fine once you pay off your loans, and acting like it's some hardship is pretty silly.

Software engineer not doctor. I tried that route and it wasn't my thing. You know the interest rates on these loans? Last I check recent graduates are broke as hell.
Anywho this is total derail...back to spandex and taxes and self-entitlement.

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[Surj]

Software engineer not doctor. I tried that route and it wasn't my thing. You know the interest rates on these loans? Last I check recent graduates are broke as hell.
Anywho this is total derail...back to spandex and taxes and self-entitlement.

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Oh. Gotcha. Yeah, I feel you... all the software engineers I know are totally struggling and really worried about the food stamps going away.

Sure, recent graduates are broke as hell. That's how it works—student loans are an investment in your future. You have to pay them back before you can roll around in your riches.

 

[aram]

I go to UOP and i wish mine was 13k a year Its roughly 30k a SEMESTER, pell/federal un/sub loan cover about half, the other half comes from private loans. Summer classes aren't covered by financial aid. All out of pocket.
I've never heard of a public med school in california. Is Davis considered public?

uc davis and ucsd are two I can think of off the top of my head.

I got my comp sci masters too and with that and undergrad degree I have less than 15k of loans, but the undergrad ones were locked at 3% so I'm in no rush to pay them off.

Computer stuff can be rough starting out but if you are good it can pay off if that's your thing. Funny thing is when I went to undergrad, tuition was a freakin bargian. Went up 30% or more since then.

 

[UDRider]

uc davis and ucsd are two I can think of off the top of my head.

I got my comp sci masters too and with that and undergrad degree I have less than 15k of loans, but the undergrad ones were locked at 3% so I'm in no rush to pay them off.

Computer stuff can be rough starting out but if you are good it can pay off if that's your thing. Funny thing is when I went to undergrad, tuition was a freakin bargian. Went up 30% or more since then.

Yep just managed to sneak by before tutition went through the roof. Got lucky in grad school, all got payed for.

 

[wakked1]

There have been dozens of articles written about this, but if you want to be fair the formula for a "road fee" should be a function of mass * distance traveled since that corresponds most to wear and tear on roads. Every said article also then points out, the simplest way to do this is to tax gasoline.

 

[babyhuyx]

Quote:

Originally Posted by babyhuyx

I go to UOP and i wish mine was 13k a year Its roughly 30k a SEMESTER, pell/federal un/sub loan cover about half, the other half comes from private loans. Summer classes aren't covered by financial aid. All out of pocket.
I've never heard of a public med school in california. Is Davis considered public?

uc davis and ucsd are two I can think of off the top of my head.

I got my comp sci masters too and with that and undergrad degree I have less than 15k of loans, but the undergrad ones were locked at 3% so I'm in no rush to pay them off.

Computer stuff can be rough starting out but if you are good it can pay off if that's your thing. Funny thing is when I went to undergrad, tuition was a freakin bargian. Went up 30% or more since then.

Lucky bastard... Funny how my graduate school tuition next year is gonna be cheaper than undergrad. Roughly 20k a year for masters in Soft eng
How long did it take before that masters paid off? I'm already a full time salary at Nvidia but the pay is hardly enough to just trickle above equilibrium after rent, bills, food etc.. Bay area housing is stupid expensive

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[Marcoose]

Never would have thought I'd see arguments in a motorcycle forum for more regulation and taxation of road use.

You'd rather have bigger government and more laws just to make it "fair" for all of the wear and tear that 0.5hp put through a 1 square inch contact patch can produce? Fucking priorities, people.

Bingo!

WTF is this thread about again? Taxes? Student loans? Being backdoored by the government? Bubbles? RSUs? Sheeeeettt.

It's about people that think they're all that, solely entitled to the good life with minimum or no regard to others.

 

[afm199]

No, if you don't have a license or haven't passed the written exam, you can't ride on the street. Only sidewalks and designated bicycle lanes.



It's simple, if you don't ride a bike on the street you don't register it. If you get caught on a public roadway - not a sidewalk or bicycle lane, but the actual road - and you don't have registration and insurance, then you get fined. Same as a car except I'd give leeway to those areas that have a defined bicycle lane.

And as far as accidents? I've taken TONS of collisions that were caused by a bicyclist doing something illegal. TONS. The driver swerves to avoid and crashes into someone else. I find the cyclist at fault and since they don't have insurance, they don't pay to fix their cars. That's not fair.

A. The law says bicycles are the same as motor vehicles, and many cities prohibit them on sidewalks except for kids. I walk on sidewalks a lot and the bikes can be a problem. Don't relegate them to sidewalks.
B. If a bicycle causes a wreck the owner is responsible. If they don't have insurance they are still responsible. Just more work to get paid.