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All the sh!t talk about Harley Davidison

That's funny, because HD didn't start their new marketing campaign until 1983. So you must be in your 30's or younger (though I am guessing 30's because that is the HD target demographic)

Nah, you're pretty much right on. I had no idea I was the "target demographic", but I expect I'll be buying and riding bikes for many years to come anyway. Maybe hd, maybe not, but they haven't turned me off yet.

myself having grown up amongst the bike culture of the 70's in Oakland and Castro Valley, you know....when most people who rode Harleys were pretty sketched out anyway, and HD was recovered by AMF (which is always a sore subject amongst old guys who I still see) I can tell you with absolute certainty that these guys say that HD has become pussified beyond recognition and "hate" the new era of tattoos and Dyna Glides. They would rather take their shitty, uncomfortable, oily, leaky, slow shovels/pans over rubber mounted bullshit if they could still ride, and THAT is the true spirit of the culture which cannot be resold. Too bad many people cannot see that.

That's kinda sad, I know a lot of old guys that sound more open and friendly than the ones you ran with. Yes, the AMF deal blew, but do you want to screw the people currently invested in it because they had enough love to buy it back? I thought it was about riding in general anyway, so I'll just keep doing that. I like it, and I like doing it on a Harley.

5 childhood friends in 5 years does not make a shift in demographics. Just look at the under 30 people who are buying bikes.

rly? :wtf I was just adding my anecdotal experience which like yours above really doesn't mean much of anything.
 
How many bikes did you own and ride before your XLCH?

I've owned 5 bikes (all non harley other than my current) in my life, and ridden probably 15-20 so not many. Does that prove anything? Do I care how many you have owned/ridden? not really.

I think it is neat that you ride though! Keep it up, on whatever makes your wheels turn.
 
Truth hurts don't it.

Nope.

I could write a long old post explaining why I will have a dyna in my garage more often than not but I don't want to spend the energy and what's the point.

Not stipulating that your's was "truth" and it sure as shit didn't "hurt":laughing

I bought, ride and put a shit load of miles on my bikes because .............well I want to.

I'd buy a duc but they just don't have the range I like. Had most other brands. Damn lucky to have choices.

Meet ya over in the sink where I can start a post about how Sac sucks.
 
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I can tell you with absolute certainty that these guys say that HD has become pussified beyond recognition and "hate" the new era of tattoos and Dyna Glides. They would rather take their shitty, uncomfortable, oily, leaky, slow shovels/pans over rubber mounted bullshit if they could still ride, and THAT is the true spirit of the culture which cannot be resold. Too bad many people cannot see that.

What a bunch of crap. :x
 
It was just a joke :) I had an old friend that rode BMWs and he actually told me alot of the weird little generalizations aimed at BMW riders because I hadn't heard them before.

The first one was perceived smugness :) and the other one was that it always looked like he and his BMW friends all looked like they were going to the snowmobile races when they had a group ride :)

No worries...my triple and parallel twins aren't considered "real" BMW's by the cognoscenti anyway...which is part of the reason I like them! :laughing
 
What a bunch of crap. :x

Exactly!

I'm not sure when advancements in manufacturing and design processes became such a bad thing. That, and if you buy INTO any culture with the purchase of something tangible, you are more of a pussy fgt douche canoe than words can properly address. I dont care what some salty toothless mouth breather thinks about the modernization of HD or anything else for that matter. There will always be a contingent looking back on 'the glory years' that romanticize shit that's done and gone. Does that make them so different? No. Infact, it rather strongly identifies them with like-minded types.

I dont own an HD. Would I? Hell yes. Would I care what some judgmental pussy fgt thought of what I rode? Not a chance.
 
I can tell you with absolute certainty that these guys say that HD has become pussified beyond recognition and "hate" the new era of tattoos and Dyna Glides. They would rather take their shitty, uncomfortable, oily, leaky, slow shovels/pans over rubber mounted bullshit if they could still ride,

Ahh, the wheelchair crowd wishing back to their glory days? I guess that explains a lot... :rolleyes :laughing
 
I can't believe nobody has quoted this douche yet :laughing

The Righteous and the Damned

Motorcyclists are known by the bike they ride. And men are known by the company they keep.

These veritable truths account for why Harley riders are only seen on the road with their own kind. Whether on reconnaissance in local territories, carrying the flag from coast to coast in a well-regulated convoy or striking a daring posse deep into the uncharted badlands, Harley men place their trust and confidence in other men of proven substance and robust character. Men who can be counted on through good times and bad. Men who never surrender, and don't take prisoners. Men who have the integrity and honor of real American motorcyclists. Men who make up the Harley-Davidson brethren.

There's no place among these men for anyone looking for a false way in and an easy way out. There's no place for men or bikes that by artifice are here today but by expediency will be gone tomorrow. There's no place for those who swear allegiance to far-eastern feudalism by riding atrocity cycles slammed together in some godforsaken land. There's no place for the snivelling lisp and depraved cowardice of squids who would make a slobbering mockery of real American motorcycling.

That leaves the atrocity riders off on their own, with a façade of pose and pretence, and a despair of resentment and bitterness. Taking the Asian badges off their throwaway contraptions out of shame, but leaving a space as blank as their empty souls. Carrying on with a sham travesty of brotherhood that's nothing but a hollow charade. Pretending to be the real deal but fooling nobody. Not ordinary American folk, who are comforted that all is well on the home front only when they see genuine Harleys lead their Fourth of July parades down the Main Streets of America. Not womenfolk, who by intuition know the deep rumble of the mighty Big Twin as the unmistakeable confirmation that real men are in command of the nation's destiny. Not even youngsters, who have a keen sense of authentic role models and clearly know the difference between a real American motorcycle and some knock-off in tin and plastic.

There's a fork early on in the road for every motorcyclist in America, with paths going off in opposite directions. A life membership in the brotherhood of righteousness is part of the authentic Harley-Davidson experience. A life sentence among the damned is reserved for the impostors.

Choose carefully, ‘cause there's no turnin' back.

-The Highwayman
 
Have you ever actually ridden one? [/I][/B]


Yep. Recently.

Dumb as hell riding position - grossly uncomfortable for anything more than riding to the local bar. Way too much engine vibration. Inadequate brakes. Nearly non-existent cornering clearance. And way, way overpriced.
 
Yep. Recently.

Dumb as hell riding position - grossly uncomfortable for anything more than riding to the local bar. Way too much engine vibration. Inadequate brakes. Nearly non-existent cornering clearance. And way, way overpriced.

:|

sounds pretty much like the new 2010 vfr...
 
Thanks for the name drop in the OP Beau!


as far as comments on the rest of the thread......

I just love motorcycles, that's all. :teeth
 
i think the functional rev limit was like 9K for self adjusting hydraulic valves?

Nope. It all depends upon how you make them adjustable. There are techniques and designs that can allow the motor to rev to astronomical levels, all without float or pump up. The reason it's not done on most bikes is either because of the extra weight and/or cost.
 
thinks coca cola lost it's kick when they took the cocaine out of it...

and wants a harley "bobcat" to complete the collection of bikes named after cats.. :teeth
 

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I can't believe nobody has quoted this douche yet :laughing

The Righteous and the Damned

Motorcyclists are known by the bike they ride. And men are known by the company they keep.

These veritable truths account for why Harley riders are only seen on the road with their own kind. Whether on reconnaissance in local territories, carrying the flag from coast to coast in a well-regulated convoy or striking a daring posse deep into the uncharted badlands, Harley men place their trust and confidence in other men of proven substance and robust character. Men who can be counted on through good times and bad. Men who never surrender, and don't take prisoners. Men who have the integrity and honor of real American motorcyclists. Men who make up the Harley-Davidson brethren.

There's no place among these men for anyone looking for a false way in and an easy way out. There's no place for men or bikes that by artifice are here today but by expediency will be gone tomorrow. There's no place for those who swear allegiance to far-eastern feudalism by riding atrocity cycles slammed together in some godforsaken land. There's no place for the snivelling lisp and depraved cowardice of squids who would make a slobbering mockery of real American motorcycling.

That leaves the atrocity riders off on their own, with a façade of pose and pretence, and a despair of resentment and bitterness. Taking the Asian badges off their throwaway contraptions out of shame, but leaving a space as blank as their empty souls. Carrying on with a sham travesty of brotherhood that's nothing but a hollow charade. Pretending to be the real deal but fooling nobody. Not ordinary American folk, who are comforted that all is well on the home front only when they see genuine Harleys lead their Fourth of July parades down the Main Streets of America. Not womenfolk, who by intuition know the deep rumble of the mighty Big Twin as the unmistakeable confirmation that real men are in command of the nation's destiny. Not even youngsters, who have a keen sense of authentic role models and clearly know the difference between a real American motorcycle and some knock-off in tin and plastic.

There's a fork early on in the road for every motorcyclist in America, with paths going off in opposite directions. A life membership in the brotherhood of righteousness is part of the authentic Harley-Davidson experience. A life sentence among the damned is reserved for the impostors.

Choose carefully, ‘cause there's no turnin' back.

-The Highwayman

So crotch rocket riders are the true rebels of america? Fucking sweet!
 
It's all good, if it's what you're into. That's how I see it... on any brands out there. :)

It's hilarious every time I read it on BARF people trying to convince others which bike is the coolest out there. To me it's like telling someone who's allergic to shrimp and hates it, that it's the best food out there. It just won't work.

But then again, that's just how it is... gotta love BARF. :D
 
I've owned 5 bikes (all non harley other than my current) in my life, and ridden probably 15-20 so not many. Does that prove anything? Do I care how many you have owned/ridden? not really.

I think it is neat that you ride though! Keep it up, on whatever makes your wheels turn.

Thanks... I will. Tell me why owning a HD is different from all the other bikes you've owned and ridden? I'm curious. I've ridden a DWG and a 1200 Sporty and was fine up until the point I had to brake or turn, then I felt pretty uneasy. If I were riding a straight line, empty highway, it would have been a pleasure.
So why do you ride an HD while we're bullshittin'...?

Nope.

I could write a long old post explaining why I will have a dyna in my garage more often than not but I don't want to spend the energy and what's the point.

I think the Highwayman beat you to it :laughing

Meet ya over in the sink where I can start a post about how Sac sucks.

Sac does suck! The Valley is Dyna heaven.

..but being close to the Sierras doesn't suck and, in fact is advantageous for riding sans Dynas.....

I'm not sure when advancements in manufacturing and design processes became such a bad thing.

What advancement in technology are you referring to? The tattoo needle?

...if you buy INTO any culture with the purchase of something tangible, you are more of a pussy fgt douche canoe than words can properly address. I dont care what some salty toothless mouth breather thinks about the modernization of HD or anything else for that matter. There will always be a contingent looking back on 'the glory years' that romanticize shit that's done and gone. Does that make them so different? No. Infact, it rather strongly identifies them with like-minded types.

I dont own an HD. Would I? Hell yes. Would I care what some judgmental pussy fgt thought of what I rode? Not a chance.

There is no modernization of HD, you along with some HD owners in this thread completely missed that point and took offense where none was intended, but I understand the need to flex the penor. You said it yourself -
...if you buy INTO any culture with the purchase of something tangible, you are more of a pussy fgt douche canoe than words can properly address
 
I want a Harley cuz:

I don't have the need for speed on the straights or hang low in the twisties...

I just wanna ride and not worried about breaking any traffic laws which is (for me) difficult to control myself on a sportbike or even supermoto...

I just wanna enjoy the scenery...

I just ride for me and don't care what others think about what I ride or who I am...

I have a small peepee and the bigger the Harley makes up for it...

thank you..
 
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