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Barf Slow Your Roll" Lane Splitting Campaign

This^^^
And equally important, I put my hand on my hip to indicate that I will be holding my position and won't be doing anything hinky/unpredictable anytime soon.

I put my (left) hand on my thigh when I'm just cruising the road. That occasionally means when splitting in good conditions (slow/medium delta, good weather, no idjit drivers). It also gives me an opportunity to reach out & tickle girl's feet if they're sticking out the window... :teeth
 
The average driver won't recognise hand-on-hip as a signal that you have no plans for hinky actions. They just see it as over-confidence, or even arrogance, especially if you're passing them in the same lane in heavy traffic.

I am not sure how you know what an average driver thinks. :dunno
 
I think Carlo is spot on.. actually. Makes perfect sense and I don't have a clue what the avg driver thinks, because I and all my kids are well above avg. ;) :laughing
 
I could totally get on board with this, my usual is 50mph max and 15mph delta anyway (unless I'm in a real hurry that is, but even then I try to not ride like an a-hole)
 
I think Carlo is spot on.. actually. Makes perfect sense and I don't have a clue what the avg driver thinks, because I and all my kids are well above avg. ;) :laughing

I think you guys might be projecting. It can also mean rider is just chilling and taking it easy.
 
I think you guys might be projecting. It can also mean rider is just chilling and taking it easy.
Maybe you are projecting. You really think someone who does not ride motorcycles is going to think, "whoa, look at that cool biker just chill with his hand on his hip." ? :rofl

Do you ever talk to drivers? I seriously doubt most of them have this as their first horny thought, when they see us playing the part.
 
This campaign, and BARF in general, has made me a lot more cautious and courteous while splitting. Granted I haven't been riding for that long but any time I catch myself splitting a bit too fast, I always think of BARF and slow down. I also try to wave any time a car moves over for me.

On Monday I actually ended up hitting a car mirror and knocked the mirror cap (just the little painted bit, not the actual mirror) off. I wasn't going too fast; my new bars are just really wide and I am dumb and put long bar ends on top of that. I ended up talking to the driver and giving her my insurance info and she seemed very grateful that I stopped by repeatedly thanking me for stopping and giving her my info (plus the mirror cap popped back into place, there were just a few new scratches on it). Hopefully any damage I did to our collective reputation for lane splitting was offset by me actually stopping and being courteous, instead of just speeding off.
 
Maybe you are projecting. You really think someone who does not ride motorcycles is going to think, "whoa, look at that cool biker just chill with his hand on his hip." ? :rofl

Do you ever talk to drivers? I seriously doubt most of them have this as their first horny thought, when they see us playing the part.

That might be. :dunno
I didn't say Kool. Just to to me first thought isn't "arrogant", but "relaxed". Same as I see a driver with one hand on a steering wheel.

I don't think the subject of hand on hip ever came up in any conversation I had with drivers.

On a side note I doubt their first thought are horny in general. :laughing
 
So now when I wheelie while splitting to keep my mirrors clear I have to keep the delta below 15 mph??? Challenge accepted :ride

But seriously, good thread. I often take a break from splitting every 15 minutes, otherwise I start to get too reckless.
 
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I think you guys might be projecting. It can also mean rider is just chilling and taking it easy.

That's how I read it too, even though I almost never ride like that myself, but I'm pretty sure most drivers see it more as I described above, if they notice it at all.
 
This^^^
And equally important, I put my hand on my hip to indicate that I will be holding my position and won't be doing anything hinky/unpredictable anytime soon.

That's something I hadn't even considered. :nchantr

I'll admit to unfounded indignation at times when I see that, but I've never seen a guy chill'n with hand on hip during the morning or evening commute. So far they've been rollin' like it's a skill contest to slalom through traffic one-handed.
 
The average driver won't recognize hand-on-hip as a signal that you have no plans for hinky actions. They just see it as over-confidence, or even arrogance, especially if you're passing them in the same lane in heavy traffic.
Personally, I think it's a bad idea to not have both hands where they need to be to have complete control (instant use of clutch and front brake) while you're passing within rwo feet or less of a car.

I frequently see riders in traffic (and splitting) with one hand on the bar. It's amazingly foolish. It takes 0.75 seconds to perceive a threat, and another 0.75 seconds to react. If it takes 0.5 seconds to get your hand back on the handlebars, you've given up precious distance. At 50mph 0.5sec is approximately 37ft. 37ft of nothing done to counter the threat.

I am not sure how you know what an average driver thinks. :dunno

As many know, I've been a motorcycle safety instructor for over 25yrs. Most of the students are non-motorcyclists. I'm also an automobile safety instructor. I constantly ask the students of my classes their impressions and opinions regarding motorcyclists and splitting lanes.

Here are the common responses:

- Most do not hear the motorcycle until it is passing them.
- Those that do hear the motorcycle do not know where it is.
- They notice the difference between those that split at high(er) speeds and mention that low(er) speeds doesn't bother them as much.
- Motorcyclists that weave as they split lanes are perceived as less safe than those that maintain position in their lane.
- They cannot figure out why motorcyclists 'split' by them in their lane, when the other lane is empty.
- They only see the headlight of a motorcycle approaching from the rear, not the turn-signals. (I specifically asked this due to many BARFers that claim that it helps)
- They notice riders that flash/pulse their headlight as they ride (I'm thinking that this is a headlight modulator)
- They get nervous when a rider takes their hand (or foot) off the motorcycle.
 
Missed this thread earlier, but I'm in.
 
I frequently see riders in traffic (and splitting) with one hand on the bar. It's amazingly foolish. It takes 0.75 seconds to perceive a threat, and another 0.75 seconds to react. If it takes 0.5 seconds to get your hand back on the handlebars, you've given up precious distance. At 50mph 0.5sec is approximately 37ft. 37ft of nothing done to counter the threat.



As many know, I've been a motorcycle safety instructor for over 25yrs. Most of the students are non-motorcyclists. I'm also an automobile safety instructor. I constantly ask the students of my classes their impressions and opinions regarding motorcyclists and splitting lanes.

Here are the common responses:

- Most do not hear the motorcycle until it is passing them.
- Those that do hear the motorcycle do not know where it is.
- They notice the difference between those that split at high(er) speeds and mention that low(er) speeds doesn't bother them as much.
- Motorcyclists that weave as they split lanes are perceived as less safe than those that maintain position in their lane.
- They cannot figure out why motorcyclists 'split' by them in their lane, when the other lane is empty.
- They only see the headlight of a motorcycle approaching from the rear, not the turn-signals. (I specifically asked this due to many BARFers that claim that it helps)
- They notice riders that flash/pulse their headlight as they ride (I'm thinking that this is a headlight modulator)
- They get nervous when a rider takes their hand (or foot) off the motorcycle.

Fair enough. The last one. Is it in context of while the rider is splitting, which is highly foolish, or riding in their own lane with buffer in front, etc?
 
Fair enough. The last one. Is it in context of while the rider is splitting, which is highly foolish, or riding in their own lane with buffer in front, etc?

Anytime they see it.
 
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