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crazy man at 16th St BART (NSFW)

idk how a naked-ass dude with some low-hanging fruit didn't just get kicked in the dick
 
corndog67 said:
I seriously doubt that. So you wrestle with your buddies. This guy does acrobat training, I would assume, nearly every day. You would be out of breath before you got close to him. You can't guarantee, anything. My money would still be on the naked guy. But, whatever. It doesn't matter. All the superheroes weren't there, and the video is what went down. That isn't going to change.
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The guy is not that big. He's probably 175lbs tops. Sure he's in shape. But I'm not talking about running a marathon or going 15 rounds with him. He needed to be tackled and I would have done it.
 
NorCalAthlete said:
I think it takes a combination of both, honestly. Part of the problem isn't just manners, it's that things that should be a non-issue are sensationalized and made into an issue.

Remember plinking with BB guns at cans in your backyard? Playing "guns" and running around pointing plastic toys at each other yelling "bang bang bang" and then fighting over who "died" first, followed by a bike ride together just because you got bored and everyone stayed friends? Picture the news headlines that shit causes now. Fear-mongering and sensationalist journalism means instead of something like that building a community, parents are scared of whatever influence others will have on their kids. People are scared of their neighbors if that neighbor comes home from a weekend hunting and starts unloading guns. People are scared of things they shouldn't be, things that are perfectly normal.

Combine all that with a lack of any real consequence for douchebaggery and dipshittiness and you get a fearful, subdued, unarmed, unwilling to defend themselves populace who have been taught to avoid conflict at all costs up to and including their dignity, health, even lives; a populace who fall easy prey to someone with a bone to pick, a point to prove, a criminal looking for an easy score, a crazy guy looking for an easy victim.

Think of it like this - people talk tough all the time. How many walk up to a known, recognized professional MMA fighter and talk tough to him/her? They're cognizant of the potential threat so they're more polite. If people are aware of a potential for harm/consequences for their actions, they tend to think a little more carefully and considerately about how their actions may affect others around them. People who have no problem slamming on your window and flipping you off because of a perceived traffic slight to their bicycle won't do the same thing to a cop. Thieves and burglars don't target police stations or military installations, for the most part. See what I'm getting at here?
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And that's really the point. It's not a simple solution of giving people fire arms. Accessibility to power does not give you the understanding of the morality and ethics of how justice operates. All it gives you is power.

I agree that the projection of power is required in the special case of people who have concluded the risk-to-reward ratio favorable in criminal activity. And I agree fear of consequence is component of what keeps many people in line. But, fear of consequence is not is not the only reason people are good and orderly. I'm not going to talk shit to an MMA fighter because I'm not a dick and I like to get along, not because I'm afraid he will kick my ass. I don't help cops because of their authority or ability to jail me, nor should anyone else. I do it because its mutually beneficial for everyone that justice is met.

The way, "an armed society is a polite society" slogan is used in context devalues whatever morals and ethics we've come to rationalize and found acceptable. We're empathetic organisms that's built on a society based on mutual well being. IDK man I think it's an irrational and terrible herpes-sore of phrase and argument point for CCWs.
 
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Perhaps I should have reworded that post - the "people" I was referring to in the last paragraph in terms of talking shit and whatnot are people who are, shall we say, criminally inclined. Either they have already committed a crime or they have little regard for consequences and no problem starting a fight or whatever.
 
I hope he get's a one way ticket to the wonderful place where illegally came from.

I'm sure when he has another mental-meltdown, the A1 Social Services of his homeland will come to his aide.............:laughing
 
From SFgate

After Perez was arrested, he stayed overnight at California Pacific Medical Center on an emergency psychiatric hold, then was passed into BART police custody. He was in jail for 48 hours but was released because BART investigators had not yet put together the paperwork needed for the district attorney to review the case for potential charges, said BART Deputy Police Chief Ben Fairow.
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Are you fucking kidding me? Oh we'll just let a criminal go because we're too lazy to do paperwork. Bart Police :thumbdown
 
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lefty said:
I hope he get's a one way ticket to the wonderful place where illegally came from.

I'm sure when he has another mental-meltdown, the A1 Social Services of his homeland will come to his aide.............:laughing
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Just for clarification, you don't 'have' to be illegal to be deported.
 
You Sir.. are correct. I misread your post. Sorry.
 
Form what I heard, the guy is from Colombia and overstayed a student visa :dunno
 
wazzuFreddo said:
Form what I heard, the guy is from Colombia and overstayed a student visa :dunno
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He could be a border jumping serial mime rapist from Nigeria who got here with internet scam money and SF would try to keep him from being deported.
 
954Rider said:
The guy is not that big. He's probably 175lbs tops. Sure he's in shape. But I'm not talking about running a marathon or going 15 rounds with him. He needed to be tackled and I would have done it.
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I don't think you have a clue as to fighting someone really in shape. So you're a big, overweight, guy. So am I. But I have no fantasies, about how strong I am, I also have no doubt about how strong an acrobat really is. You called him twinkle toes in another post. I have no doubt he'd hand you your ass.
 
An all out struggle is a massive expenditure of energy. I once fought a drunk on the side of Highway 9 for 4-5 minutes. After breaking the drunk's arm and backup arrive, I needed a nap for like 2-3 days.

Of course, I'm a short fat white man....
 
Rel said:
An all out struggle is a massive expenditure of energy. I once fought a drunk on the side of Highway 9 for 4-5 minutes. After breaking the drunk's arm and backup arrive, I needed a nap for like 2-3 days.

Of course, I'm a short fat white man....
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Most people have no idea how long a 3 minute fight is. It is a sweaty FOREVER. :laughing Most real fights I've seen are over in under a minute.
 
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