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Do You Mountain Bike?

Wow that was a beating. We rode West/East Ridge Fri. Snowboarded Sat and raced Sun. Bad prep for a race me thinks. :(

I had three weapons; a 31lb Enduro, a 28lb XC FS bike, and a 24lb rigid.
I chose the "road bike" (actually a rigid Scott Team Racing MTN bike). I just compounded mistakes for this event. We got there fairly late, no time to pre-run or warm up. I just had enough time to quick fuel.

The start was me watching everyone blast away after the first two miles, Joe's words ringing in my head "ease into it man". I had a pace that felt like 80% but that was not to last. My only riding mistake was a loose dirt climb that you had to turn 90 degrees for right after a slight down slope (with a 1 foot high speed bump in the middle). The guy in front stalled it, and I was not in the right gear, so we clipped out and ran up. Never again I told myself.

I faded pretty bad in the 2nd lap, a few from the other classes caught me, then I could not drop into my granny gear. This said to me, it's time to fuel again and soldier on. The middle of lap 2 I choked down some shotblocks, inhaled water and tried to keep momentum. Every climb the, old beat "road bike" surprised me. If I got the shift right I climbed easily, if I didn't I could still muscle it up. I was advised to "draft" by another racer while trying to keep pace on the road, when we got to the dirt climb he got dropped. At the start finish there was another climb, and every time this bike made it with ease. The last time, two guys were headed up the hill at the same speed, I had the momentum and decided to psychologically tweak them. I called out "up the middle" as I passed them between them like they were standing around bird watching.

The third lap I overtook the 19-34 women’s leader who faded a bit. Damn she could pedal, but on any down grade I stomped the pedals, hucked, and backed that rigid into turns, while I heard her faint braking squeal. The reprise of gapping someone on the down slope was short lived as she pedaled her way into sight again. I was her “rabbit” I guess, after the aggressive pass I made she would yoyo to within 100 yards.

The bike was awesome… (middle chainring all the way, 11-26, rigid forks, 2900grm wheelset.) not prepared for a race, but it pwned a few better rigs.
 

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Would depend on what people wanted. What would you want?

Since I'm a member of Golden Gate Tri Club, I'm still wearing the GGTC singlet at multisport events. Still, that only happens 3 or so times a year. A cycling jersey might be kinda fun though, and I'd have many more opportunities to wear it.

I'm wondering what moto guys might be think when they see a "spandex covered skinny tire riding asshat" on the road sporting the BARF logo :)

~17.25miles with ~2116 ft elevation gain -- that race wasn't easy, especially riding a 32lb FR/AM bike:p

How much lighter is the Enduro SL on the same scale?
 
We rode West/East Ridge Fri. Snowboarded Sat and raced Sun. Bad prep for a race me thinks. :(

Plus eating poorly on Saturday....:(

I've done my fair share of triathlons but I don't recall suffering quite as much as that race.

My "warmup" usually takes place in the swim portion, which allows me to get my breathing down. I didn't have that luxury in this race.....and there were no "transitions" allowing me to catch my breath.

I started the race thinking it was going to be a nice, mellow weekend ride. Instead, I pushed a high intensity from the start. I was clumped together with 5 others during the first mile. We came across a steep little climb and the 4 in front of me started dropping like flies....I managed to make it through the cluster of riders as I went uphill. I made my next pass a mile later on the next climb, which happened to be the girl on the Pink Titus. I rode by myself for the remainder of the first lap, which felt very hard as I didn't even get a chance to warm up. I almost gave up after the first lap, realizing I had to do THAT 2 more times.....I kept going..

I toned it down and the second lap seemed much easier. Why didn't I bring my HR monitor?:| I started to get the hang of the course and was able to anticipate some of the climbs, along with some of the small jumps, and blast through the downhills. I really enjoyed the berms which had awesome traction, I even played around with locking up the rear and sliding it at every corner. Towards the end of my 2nd lap, I get passed by a small group of junior boys, and then, I was by myself again:laughing

The third lap seemed an eternity as each of the climbs started to take a lot out of me. I was relieved when I crossed the finish line.

Racing a 32lb+ bike took a lot out of me.

Who said racing would be easy --I had a blast!:teeth
 
CCCX Downhill, March 9

Looks like the season opener for the CCCX Downhill Series is on March 9 at Toro Park in Salinas. Here's a description of the course for the season opener last year:

The first race of the series is going to be a fast one with lots of action to test a riders line selection and skills. Traction will be an issue as the trails are dry and fast and the turns will be very tricky. Each CCCX DH course will test a riders full array of riding ability. There will be some really high speed sections, tight turns, steep trails, and some fun riding single track. Each course in the series will test fitness as well as your downhill skills. For race #1 it will be about a 30 minute walk uphill to the start. Cash will be paid out to the top male riders, and top female riders each race. All divisions eligible for cash payout.

I'm guessing the RideSFO guys that Rox and Sonny have been riding with will be in attendance. Sounds like more of a time trial Super D course with some pedaling than a true downhill event.

Ryan, you *have* to show up on the Epic :)

I think I'm gonna give this a go on the Jekyll. Anyone else interested?
 
I'm guessing the RideSFO guys that Rox and Sonny have been riding with will be in attendance. Sounds like more of a time trial Super D course with some pedaling than a true downhill event.

The course doesn't look too bad......I'm in!:)

Yeah, Mr P (from rideSFO/mtbr) will be doing that race....He too, said it is more of a super d than a dh race. The terrain is very flat and there's hiking involved. No shuttles.

Saturday practice anyone?
 
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My heart rate, heavy bike, didn't prepare properly, wa wa wa!!!:twofinger

My philosophy is to just go go go!!! as hard as you can. Either the weak part of you cracks and it gets easier or your body cracks and you fall into a ditch and wait for death... or the paramedics. Whichever comes first:teeth

That was a frickin blast. Pretty similar to CX. In CX you take all that punishment we experienced and intensify it into a much smaller area and time period. You literally don't have time to contemplate your situation. This was actually a bit harder psychologically as there were quite a few moments where you had time to look around and think about what you were doing what you had done and what you were going to do and why the hell you were doing this to yourself on purpose:wtf

I tried real hard to tell myself that I was just gonna take it easy and chill through this whole ride and then I just had to pass Sonny cause I couldn't stand staring at that freakin sesame street Jersey any longer:| I felt my strength come and go in waves. I definitely need to learn how to pace myself better. I pushed so hard on the first lap and even though I passed most people I couldn't maintain the momentum and ended up giving away a few spots towards the end of the second lap and never saw those guys butts again:p I made alot of mistakes but didn't care. It was a blast and I will probably start training seriously as even though I did very well I still found myself dicing it up with a bunch of early teens and having to struggle to keep them behind me:| Screw that man:x I wanna be that older kid that tackles them into a pile of dog poo and runs away with the football giving them the :shocker as I dance in the end zone:cool

Oh and whats with the freakin creepy camera man? There are only three pics of me out of like 500 but he snapped about 15 of that underage girls cleavage:|

Cheers, Jer
 
Yeah, I'm keeping the shock.......I'd like to keep a consistent coil shock/coil fork system:)

its 6.5 x 1.75" stroke

you looking for a coil shock?
 
Yeah, I'm keeping the shock.......I'd like to keep a consistent coil shock/coil fork system:)

its 6.5 x 1.75" stroke

you looking for a coil shock?
I've been out of the loop for a bit so forgive me if this sound ignorant due to something that was discussed 3 pages ago, .... but, ...If you are using this bike for more aggressive type riding than you are definitely wise to keep the coils. What you loose in weight and efficiency can easily be made up for in plush. However, if this is going to be your dedicated xc bike, or xc race bike than you would be far better off replacing air for coil.
 
I've been out of the loop for a bit so forgive me if this sound ignorant due to something that was discussed 3 pages ago, .... but, ...If you are using this bike for more aggressive type riding than you are definitely wise to keep the coils.

This is my FR/AM bike. This will be the bike I'll be using for DH/SuperD type races.

What you loose in weight and efficiency can easily be made up for in plush. However, if this is going to be your dedicated xc bike, or xc race bike than you would be far better off replacing air for coil.

I agree!

This is no where close to being my XC bike... Doing last Sunday's XC race was just for kicks. I'm not going to try an make this an XC bike when its oriented for FR/AM type of riding;)

Thinking about getting a hardtail for XC racing.
 
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Thinking about getting a hardtail for XC racing.

How tall are you? Here's a Trek 8000 Hardtail for 350 + shipping obo:

http://velobellabb.com/forum18/1354.html

You asked me about tires earlier for DH racing - I'd have to say it totally depends on the terrain. Lost of fast guys @ Downieville use the Weirwolf 2.55 LTs (low tread) or the Mutano Raptor 2.24s. Harpo and I both swear by the Mutano 2.24 rear with a Weirwolf 2.3 front running Stan's NoTubes. The front has all kinds of grip, while the rear has excellent side grip while rolling extremely well. 2.3/2.24 is just enough volume to smooth the ride out, but not enough to feel overly floaty or bloated on a small rim.

http://www.wtb.com/products/tires/allmountain/mutanoraptor/
http://www.wtb.com/products/tires/allmountain/weirwolf/

For the deeper, softer dirt like you'll find @ Northstar, the tread on those tires isn't enough - both of us kept washing out in several places. Something like the WTB Timberwolf would be more in order:

http://www.wtb.com/products/tires/dhfr/timberwolf/
 
How tall are you? Here's a Trek 8000 Hardtail for 350 + shipping obo:

http://velobellabb.com/forum18/1354.html

You asked me about tires earlier for DH racing - I'd have to say it totally depends on the terrain. Lost of fast guys @ Downieville use the Weirwolf 2.55 LTs (low tread) or the Mutano Raptor 2.24s. Harpo and I both swear by the Mutano 2.24 rear with a Weirwolf 2.3 front running Stan's NoTubes. The front has all kinds of grip, while the rear has excellent side grip while rolling extremely well. 2.3/2.24 is just enough volume to smooth the ride out, but not enough to feel overly floaty or bloated on a small rim.

http://www.wtb.com/products/tires/allmountain/mutanoraptor/
http://www.wtb.com/products/tires/allmountain/weirwolf/

For the deeper, softer dirt like you'll find @ Northstar, the tread on those tires isn't enough - both of us kept washing out in several places. Something like the WTB Timberwolf would be more in order:

http://www.wtb.com/products/tires/dhfr/timberwolf/

I have been using Maxis High Roller tires for about 5 years and have had Zero flats and I think they are 2.35 x 24 I think
 
do all WTB's come in tubeless?

Very few of them do. The weight of tubeless specific tires is usually much heavier as well.

Kenda Nevegal 2.1 Tubeless = 880g
Kenda Nevegal 2.1 DTC (Dual Tread Compound) = 630g

The key for XC / AM riding seems to be running standard tires with a tubeless conversion kit, which is what both Joe and I do using the Stan's NoTube kit:

http://www.notubes.com

Less weight by running standard tires, with fantastic protection against pinch flats.

I have been using Maxis High Roller tires for about 5 years and have had Zero flats and I think they are 2.35 x 24 I think

Just looked em up. 540g for a 2.3 size tire, and great protection against flats? That's pretty impressive.

I know you do a bit of dirt jumping - are you doing much DH riding in rocky terrain?
 
I want to hit Sugar Bowl on Monday but I'm not going unless I can find a hardcore, semi extreme, powder-hound to ski (or board) with.

Anyone up for it??
 
Very few of them do. The weight of tubeless specific tires is usually much heavier as well.

Kenda Nevegal 2.1 Tubeless = 880g
Kenda Nevegal 2.1 DTC (Dual Tread Compound) = 630g

The key for XC / AM riding seems to be running standard tires with a tubeless conversion kit, which is what both Joe and I do using the Stan's NoTube kit:

http://www.notubes.com

Less weight by running standard tires, with fantastic protection against pinch flats.



Just looked em up. 540g for a 2.3 size tire, and great protection against flats? That's pretty impressive.

I know you do a bit of dirt jumping - are you doing much DH riding in rocky terrain?

I have been using these tire since back east which was very rocky terrrain compaired to the trail around here

What I like about these, they roll over anything and give great traction around corners.

Once I get my new ride I will join you guys on some rides

Looking into a Kona my buddy has now He bought it for 1800 last year rode it a handful of times and wants to sell it for 800
 
The key for XC / AM riding seems to be running standard tires with a tubeless conversion kit, which is what both Joe and I do using the Stan's NoTube kit:

Less weight by running standard tires, with fantastic protection against pinch flats.

That's the info I need. I have tubeless rims on the AM, and will go with the Stan's kit for my XC, but how do you run standard tires on a tubeless setup?

**duh, never mind**

Tire sealant :teeth
 
That's the info I need. I have tubeless rims on the AM, and will go with the Stan's kit for my XC, but how do you run standard tires on a tubeless setup?

**duh, never mind**

Tire sealant :teeth

It can actually be a bitch to get certain kinds of tires to bead - Joe couldn't get the Kenda Nevegals to bead, and I blew the tire right off the rim with a dual compound Weirwolf as well as a dual compound Mutano. The beads on those two particular tires are known for being soft - evidently it couldn't handle the setup.

Joe and I have both done numerous single compound Weirwolf and Mutano tires with no problems.
 
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