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Do You Mountain Bike?
- Thread starter WickedWahine
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Go2Trackdays
No speed limits or cars!
Do "superlight" wheels / rims, like the www.notubes.com tubeless 347 Olympic wheelset at 1341 grams really make a big difference in your riding compared to regular 'ol heavy stuff?
Have you noticed a worthwhile performance difference?
Just curious, please comment!
Have you noticed a worthwhile performance difference?
Just curious, please comment!
CHUM
fresh fish in stock.....
Yes.....specifically for longer endurance or XC riding.....
Go2Trackdays
No speed limits or cars!
Let's say, for example, doing the Sea Otter Classic XC race - one loop is about 19 miles -
What kind of time difference would you say it makes per loop? (I'm trying to justify getting at least a rear wheel, even though income-wise at the moment it's probably stupid
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... and then notubes claims you can run super low pressure, yet the rolling resistance remains the same? Doesn't make sense
What kind of time difference would you say it makes per loop? (I'm trying to justify getting at least a rear wheel, even though income-wise at the moment it's probably stupid
)... and then notubes claims you can run super low pressure, yet the rolling resistance remains the same? Doesn't make sense
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CHUM
fresh fish in stock.....
Let's say, for example, doing the Sea Otter Classic XC race - one loop is about 19 miles -
What kind of time difference would you say it makes per loop? (I'm trying to justify getting at least a rear wheel, even though income-wise at the moment it's probably stupid
... and then notubes claims you can run super low pressure, yet the rolling resistance remains the same? Doesn't make sense
the short answer is yes to both of your questions.....it will make a difference at Otter...and you can run much lower pressure with a tubeless setup.
the time difference is entirely up to your fitness level - are you racing cat 1 or 2 looking for a podium spot?.....or are ya looking to get your feet wet with a beginner level finish?
also a side benefit of running tubeless is fewer flats.....better traction.....and yes....no real difference in rolling resistance.
couple of tips for Otter if this is your first time there....this race is won in the climbs.....you can gain field position by:
1. getting ahead of the pack before trail 50 (singletrack) where it clogs bad (you can easily hit 45mph+ going down trail 11 before 50....find your line)
2. get used the the 'sand-surf' down trail 60...it can be squirrely
3. practicing the climb on trail 82 (a pain at race pace).
4. and the last grunt up the Skyline fire road (where most are blown-up by then)...put it in your big ring and hammer!
of course this only makes sense if the course is the same as the past few years..
have fun!....get some practice loops in.....
Go2Trackdays
No speed limits or cars!
me is amateur for sure, I ride for exercise & fun ~ only averaging 3 1/2 hrs riding /week. I have done the Otter twice - '05, '08 in the amateur class, and finished - let's say towards the back of the pack with my older Jamis hardtail 
What can I say, it's fun to browse for new parts with the promise of better results!
What can I say, it's fun to browse for new parts with the promise of better results!
CHUM
fresh fish in stock.....
me is amateur for sure, I ride for exercise & fun ~ only averaging 3 1/2 hrs riding /week. I have done the Otter twice - '05, '08 in the amateur class, and finished - let's say towards the back of the pack with my older Jamis hardtail
What can I say, it's fun to browse for new parts with the promise of better results!
kewl
......then you know what's in store for ya...a hardtail is perfect for this race....it's mostly smooth....and not really technical at all.....i had to ask what cat you compete in because lots of roadies race this course and crush it (great fitness...not so technical)...
good luck!
You might not notice a big difference. It's more level of exertion than quicker times for me.
I train on a 7" full suspension, then time or race on a XC rig. Difference is 35 lbs vs 28lbs.
The real difference is rolling mass. I changed the rear rim on the big bike (difference of 200 grams), rim only same hub and spokes. Did a 13 mile loop that I did earlier in the week and it felt like it was 6 miles longer.
For just pure weight weenie-ness, It depends on your bank acct.
I train on a 7" full suspension, then time or race on a XC rig. Difference is 35 lbs vs 28lbs.
The real difference is rolling mass. I changed the rear rim on the big bike (difference of 200 grams), rim only same hub and spokes. Did a 13 mile loop that I did earlier in the week and it felt like it was 6 miles longer.
For just pure weight weenie-ness, It depends on your bank acct.
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TeamZigen
Repsol HRC... Swag!!!
TeamZigen
Repsol HRC... Swag!!!
We explored the other trails at Annadel (after N. Burma) -- Live Oak, Rough Go and Cobblestone -- good stuff!!
http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/7931595
Cody: How are those Spinergy's holding up..
http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/7931595
Cody: How are those Spinergy's holding up..
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MrCrash
King of FAIL
- Joined
- Mar 3, 2002
- Location
- HayWEIRD
- Moto(s)
- CBR600F4, Mojo SL, Anthem X 29er, XTC 29er Composite, XTC 29er Singlespeed
- Name
- Mikey
We explored the other trails at Annadel (after N. Burma) -- Live Oak, Rough Go and Cobblestone -- good stuff!!
http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/7931595
I like adding that last extra bit that you did. Usually, most of the group I'm riding with is a little burned by that point.
The last few times I did it, I came across quite a bit of pedestrian traffic. Was it pretty clear when you guys did it?
I heard Cowboy Cody had a couple of rim / tire separation issues - maybe a higher PSI would prevent that from happening?
Not worth running higher pressure, this rarely ever happens. I did find a small dent in the rim where the tire seperated. This was an older dent from awhile back. I'm wondering if thats the spot it seperates at.
Or its from too narrow of a rim with a wide tire, either way it doesn't happen often so I'm not gonna sweat it. The reason I ripped the tire was from thinking I could just ride it out for a little bit longer.
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I really liked that last section.
We ran into a few hikers but for the most part, it was clear.
Mikey: We attempted to ride Ridge/Upper Steve's but ended up taking the detour towards Marsh at the first junction. Should we have kept climbing that singletrack into the hills and would that have eventually led us back to Marsh to S. Burma?
MrCrash
King of FAIL
- Joined
- Mar 3, 2002
- Location
- HayWEIRD
- Moto(s)
- CBR600F4, Mojo SL, Anthem X 29er, XTC 29er Composite, XTC 29er Singlespeed
- Name
- Mikey
Mikey: We attempted to ride Ridge/Upper Steve's but ended up taking the detour towards Marsh at the first junction. Should we have kept climbing that singletrack into the hills and would that have eventually led us back to Marsh to S. Burma?
I looked at your GPS trace - it looks like you missed a right turn after the Schultz climb, right after you went under the power lines. You went right into a perimeter trail that was pretty much straight, and took Ridge / Upper Steve's back towards Schultz, eventually putting you on the southeast end of Marsh.
Compare your route with this one. I put both Google Earth plots on one map to find where you missed it.
http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/2372419
Ah, thanks for the link...I see where we missed the right turn.
Next time I'll follow that trace until we get to N. Burma
couple of tips for Otter if this is your first time there....this race is won in the climbs.....you can gain field position by:
1. getting ahead of the pack before trail 50 (singletrack) where it clogs bad (you can easily hit 45mph+ going down trail 11 before 50....find your line)
2. get used the the 'sand-surf' down trail 60...it can be squirrely
3. practicing the climb on trail 82 (a pain at race pace).
4. and the last grunt up the Skyline fire road (where most are blown-up by then)...put it in your big ring and hammer!
of course this only makes sense if the course is the same as the past few years..
have fun!....get some practice loops in.....
http://www.motionbased.com/event/seaotter07/xcHelmetCam/xcVid.htm
I might preride the course this Saturday
Then we'll see if I wanna race it
dking
No Rookie!
http://www.motionbased.com/event/seaotter07/xcHelmetCam/xcVid.htm
I might preride the course this Saturday
Oh, you know you want to race it...
Rear Shock Trade.
Hey all, I have lots of different rear shock in lots of sizes. The one I don't have is th one I need at the moment. Does anyone have a rear shock size 7.875 x 2.25 that they want to trade for something else??
Looking for something like an RP2 RP23 DHX Air or Coil or a Roco
Let me know, Thanx
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Hey all, I have lots of different rear shock in lots of sizes. The one I don't have is th one I need at the moment. Does anyone have a rear shock size 7.875 x 2.25 that they want to trade for something else??
Looking for something like an RP2 RP23 DHX Air or Coil or a Roco
Let me know, Thanx
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