Donate or scrap?

[teg916]

From my experience, you can sell anything that runs for $1000 if you can get it past smog.

 

[MC BumSlap]

one eight seven seven kars for kids. k-a-r-s kars for kids


I FUCKING HATE THEIR GINGLE!!

 

[Toast]

People want Subies, I would sell it.

 

[Bay Arean]

Look into the state buyback program. It will no longer smog so most buyers won't want it and they may pay you $1000 straight up for it. That's how I got rid of my old s10.

Yeah, they keep offering me $1K for my Mazda 92 pickup, which has passed it's last smog test (it requires a post 06 catalytic converter even tho the one it has passes). So I am enjoying my last year and a half or so and will take their money unless a Mazda pickup freak finds his/her way to my world.

The offer seems to come about three months before the smog test reg cycle comes due. I've gotten three of em in six years.

 

[auntiebling]

Yeah, they keep offering me $1K for my Mazda 92 pickup, which has passed it's last smog test (it requires a post 06 catalytic converter even tho the one it has passes). So I am enjoying my last year and a half or so and will take their money unless a Mazda pickup freak finds his/her way to my world.

The offer seems to come about three months before the smog test reg cycle comes due. I've gotten three of em in six years.

I'd sell that. Kinda the end of the bare bones little pickups, like berto was saying about the Yukon always being worth 5k, that little pickup will be worth 1500 untill trump sells us to putin. Throw a cat in it and keep driving

 

[1sicv8]

I had a similar situation with my wife's car. We tried to take advantage of the state programs but they usually dry up with funds really quick. I couldnt smog it, so selling it was a huge gamble I didnt want to deal with.

Carmax gave us a couple hundred bucks for the old beater, if it was smogable I probably could have sold for 1k... we went with carmax because it was simple, stress free and quick. Took less than 1 hr

 

[splat]

one eight seven seven kars for kids. k-a-r-s kars for kids


I FUCKING HATE THEIR GINGLE!!

They have a good Jingle though!

 

[Yakoo752]

Carmax gave us a couple hundred bucks for the old beater, if it was smogable I probably could have sold for 1k... we went with carmax because it was simple, stress free and quick. Took less than 1 hr

They probably shipped it out of California to a state that doesn't do emissions testing and broke even on it.

 

[psychocandy]

Then the seller didn't complain, but they would not have been able to register the car without a new one. I was on that side of the ball 15 years ago, so I'm not sure when you last sold.

For sure you can sell, nothing stopping you. Just as the buyer, if it fails smog, I can come after you for the full cost of repairs to pass smog.

You've been lucky in the past the buyers didn't know the law AND they passed smog. $40 isn't worth griping about

Actually, my memory fails me. I've probably only sold a couple cars (others disposed of by other means). Neither were in any danger of not passing smog. So I guess I just never worried about it.

since it drives you take it to pick and pull and they write you a check for 1000. More than a tax deduction and it's real money.

I'm very interested in this. So, I looked at the guidelines. My car has a current smog certificate. But the CEL is an automatic no pass right? Cars newer than '95 that HAVE passed smog are not eligible for Cash For Clunkers. Will the fact that it currently won't pass smog (due to CEL) make it eligible? It's unclear from: http://www.cashforclunkers.org/california-cash-for-clunkers-program/

Just asking if you have any experience with this.

People want Subies, I would sell it.

Did you read all the negatives in my first post? Also, it's the old 2.2 engine & auto trans. So, ricers not interested.

 

[kingmoochr]

If you take your car to smog it now, it will fail. I can't recall or not if I actually got the smog, but I had a broken exhaust so it failed visual. As long as everything else meets criteria, I'd smog it for a grand cash.

 

[mercurial]

For sure you can sell, nothing stopping you. Just as the buyer, if it fails smog, I can come after you for the full cost of repairs to pass smog.

This is probably not strictly true. To get around the smog issue, you merely need to disclose on the contract that the car won't pass smog because the CEL is on, but that the car is being sold as-is anyway. Maybe add some language about the car being non-op, as well.

 

[kingmoochr]

This is probably not strictly true. To get around the smog issue, you merely need to disclose on the contract that the car won't pass smog because the CEL is on, but that the car is being sold as-is anyway. Maybe add some language about the car being non-op, as well.

According to the cvc, seller is responsible for smog, so if there were to be a dispute in civil court, the judgement would be for the buyer, since the seller is violating the vehicle code. A civil contact can't protect you from a violation of criminal law. That's the black and white. The grey answer is will someone likely go to those lengths over $80 for a smog? Probably not. However, if the repairs cost them hundreds or thousands, you aren't protected. Why take the risk over the few hundred dollars you'd get over surrendering?

Cvc 24007(b)(2) if you want to read the code. Google it if you want to read horror stories.

 

[bootsy]

Forever, smog isn't valid for 2 years. 1 month to register, 3 to sell. Look into the state buyback program, since it drives you take it to pick and pull and they write you a check for 1000. More than a tax deduction and it's real money.

https://www.smogcheck.ca.gov/Consumer/Consumer_Assistance_Program/Vehicle_Retirement_Frequently_Asked_Questions.html

I recently retired a vehicle. Got paid the $1000, but the wait time to process the paperwork and get the check was long. (This was at Pick and Pull in San Jose, on Commercial)

 

[kingmoochr]

I got the check before I left pick and pull San leandro, but this was several years ago.

 

[Yakoo752]

This is probably not strictly true. To get around the smog issue, you merely need to disclose on the contract that the car won't pass smog because the CEL is on, but that the car is being sold as-is anyway. Maybe add some language about the car being non-op, as well.

Your exclusion is non-op status and that is it. Only time you can sell a "smog-able" vehicle that won't pass smog and not be liable for it.

Edit: this may not be wholly accurate

 

[kingmoochr]

Your exclusion is non-op status and that is it. Only time you can sell a "smog-able" vehicle that won't pass smog and not be liable for it.

You can't sell a vehicle non-op AFAIK. If you want to sell it for parts, the title and plates must be surrendered, and the dmv will process the vehicle as junk. If you sell it in non-op registration status, that doesn't absolve you from smog liability. Can you point to the code section that says otherwise? Cvc 4000.1 (b) doesn't say anything about non-op status as an exclusion.

 

[splat]

This is probably not strictly true. To get around the smog issue, you merely need to disclose on the contract that the car won't pass smog because the CEL is on, but that the car is being sold as-is anyway. Maybe add some language about the car being non-op, as well.

A title only transfer (which is what you're talking about) means that it is PNO and can only be used as a "ranch vehicle" or operated on private property only. If it ever touches the road it is required to have a moving permit, however it is not "registered" to anyone anymore. The title transfer shows only ownership. You also must show proof of how it was legally transported from one property to another (if asked by the DMV).

In that case, you are essentially selling a parts-only vehicle that may have a bunch of bureaucratic red tape attached to it if you ever decide to try to register it for driving on public highways.

A smog certificate is always required for selling a vehicle (with the exception of family transfers).

Your use of the adverb "probably" followed by the affirmative "how to" of getting around a smog is contradictory. You cannot absolve any responsibility of the law by making your own contract. Life just doesn't work that way. Now if the buyer AGREES to it and follows through that's one thing. If he agrees to it then decides to chase you for the repairs, under state law, he is entitled to that.

 

[Charles R]

Fwiw, the 2.2 is very popular for vanagon engine swaps. The only CA smog legal swap is based on it. It's also considered more reliable than the 2.5.

Talk to pick and pull directly. They're pretty helpful people there. But if you'll only net a couple hundred bucks, try offering it up as a swap donor on Craigslist, or better yet, "thesamba.com"

 

[Abacinator]

You can't sell a vehicle non-op AFAIK. If you want to sell it for parts, the title and plates must be surrendered, and the dmv will process the vehicle as junk. If you sell it in non-op registration status, that doesn't absolve you from smog liability. Can you point to the code section that says otherwise? Cvc 4000.1 (b) doesn't say anything about non-op status as an exclusion.

You can sell a vehicle non-op. But you can't change the registration status to non-op until renewal is due.

 

[Yakoo752]

You can sell a vehicle non-op. But you can't change the registration status to non-op until renewal is due.

You have 90 days post registration to non-op a vehicle

You can sell a non-op vehicle as a title only transfer, this may or may not waive you from liability for smog.