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Donate or scrap?

That the seller is responsible for the smog has always been one of those stupid laws imo. Also the 90 day thing is BS.
 
psychocandy said:
Yeah, info from this thread & the Cash For Clunkers website was somewhat confusing, but I'm wondering if this is relevant for my car that is not older than MY 1995:



California Cash for Clunkers Program
2016 California Cash for Clunkers Program

We understand this can be confusing but we have tried to organize the information below to answer your questions and help you select your best option.

Goal of the program
The goal of the BAR program is to provide a cash incentive to retire older polluting cars. The BAR program payout is a capped at $1,000 ($1,500 low income) and is an incentive based amount not based on the true market value of your car.

5 Key Considerations for California car owners.

Question 1.
Has Your Car Passed Smog Test?
YES – If your vehicle passed smog you may wish to get a quote from a private car buyer or donate your car to help children in need.

If your car has passed Smog Inspection then you must be considered low income to sell your car using the BAR program. See what household income level is considered low income.

If your car passed Smog Inspection and is 1995 or OLDER you should research the local air district programs.

Disqualified as my car is newer than 1995.

NO – My Car Failed Smog – go to Question 2

If I take it to a smog check place, it will fail automatically due to CEL. But it's not currently due for a smog check. Can I do this anyway? Someone earlier in the thread implied it was fine. But I don't want to get it in the system as can't pass smog in case I need to donate it.

Question 2.
Is your car running and driveable?
YES – To sell your car to the state you must drive it to a local dismantler.

Question 3.
Is your car registered in California?
YES – In order to be paid to retire your vehicle it must have a current California registration and must have been continuously registered in CA for the past two years (note:the registration must not have lapsed for more than 120 days during those two years).

After reviewing the above considerations most car sellers will find they fall into one of the following six scenarios:

1. You Failed a Smog Test and want to sell your car via BAR.

This is the situation I'm looking at if I take it to a smog test place with the CEL. I don't see a '95 or older clause for cars that don't pass smog. Does that mean my car would be eligible?

Has your vehicle FAILED the latest Smog Check Test?
The State’s recently enhanced Consumer Assistance Program (CAP) was developed by the ARB in consultation with BAR and provides $1,000 per vehicle and $1,500 for low-income consumers for unwanted vehicles that have FAILED their last Smog Check Test.

Here are the basic requirements for cars that have FAILED SMOG TEST

Vehicle must be driveable (Note: If your vehicle is not driveable or doesn’t meet the other requirements listed below you may wish to contact a private California clunker car buyer that will buy your car and provide free towing)
$1,500 to applicants that meet low income requirement (See income chart below)
$1,000 to applicants that DO NOT meet the low income requirements (See income chart below)
Applicant for reimbursement must be the Registered Owner or Joint Registered Owner
Vehicle is NOT a new California Registration
Vehicle ownership is not currently being transferred to a new owner
Vehicle is registered to individual not a business or charity
If a “Salvage Vehicle” then must be registered with Salvage Title
Vehicle must have been continuously registered in CA for past two years
Vehicle must be currently registered in CA
Vehicle must be a Car, Van, Truck or SUV weighing less than 10,000 pounds
Applicants are limited to one vehicle retirement per 12 month period or two vehicles per 12 month period if retired vehicles are jointly registered to applicant and another party

The vehicle must also meet certain Vehicle Equipment Requirements and Vehicle Operational Requirements.

Vehicle Equipment Requirements

All doors
Hood lid
Dashboard
Windshield
At least one side window glass
Driver’s seat
At least one bumper
Exhaust system
All side and /or quarter panels
At least one headlight, one taillight, and one brake light

Vehicle Operational Requirements

Vehicle must be driven to a CAP-contracted dismantler under its own power.
Vehicle engine starts readily through ordinary means without the use of starting fluids or external boost batteries.
Vehicle drivability is not affected by any body, steering, or suspension damage.
Vehicle is able to drive forward a minimum distance of 10 yards under its own power.
Interior pedals are operational.

You must be able to drive the car to one of the approved dismantlers.

If your vehicle meets the requirements you can download the application.

All the above conditions are otherwise met. Except for the fact that smog cert is current. There is no '95 or older clause for cars that fail smog.
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You might be right, probably best to call one of the junk yards. They will know exactly what vehicles they should be writing checks for.
 
psychocandy said:
I wasn't saying my friend would buy it. He's got an original pancake & wants to keep it that way. I was just saying I support the enthusiast community. I don't actually have any direct contact to someone who'd want to buy. So, not gonna jump through those hoops if Cash For Clunkers is easier.
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I was just saying that if your friend is in the ACVW scene, or on forums, he might know of people who would want your car as a swap donor. Not that he himself was the only option.
 
Just an FYI of some info I've discovered after calling the Pick-N-Pull 800 number. Pick-N-Pull wasn't that helpful, but referred me to CA Dept. of Consumer Affairs that runs the Bureau of Automotive Repair. The person on the other end of the line there was quite pleasant & helpful.

I'm not sure what Cash For Clunkers refers to, but it's not exactly the same as the Consumer Assistance Program. Even though http://www.cashforclunkers.org/california-cash-for-clunkers-program/ refers to them as the same thing. :shrug

At any rate, before you can apply for $1k from the state, you have to fill out a CAP Application. Which who the hell knows how long it takes to approve (up to 6-8 weeks).

For a car to be eligible, it needs to be >6 model years old. It also needs to be up for registration renewal AND not able to pass smog. In other words, if I take my car in to be smogged & it fails, it WON'T be eligible because the reg is not currently up for renewal. Not only that, but even if the reg WAS up for renewal, but it wasn't a smog year for my reg ('cuz smog is every 2 years), it STILL wouldn't be eligible.

You can only get $1k from CAP when you're renewing your registration and when it's a smog year for your car. I have to see when our last smog certificate was. If it's up for renewal in spring and needs a smog, it might be worth it to keep it for a few months if I can get $1k for it.
 
Yeah, that's a different program. That's basically an assistance program to help keep your car on the road, but can't afford the repairs.

Not what you're after.

Did you ask PnP directly how much they would buy your car for?
 
Does this have a super low 4x4? I could take the plasma cutter to it, stencil a bunch of flowers on it and tell my wife: "Merry Christmas" here is your new side by side garden vehicle!
 
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psychocandy said:
At any rate, before you can apply for $1k from the state, you have to fill out a CAP Application. Which who the hell knows how long it takes to approve (up to 6-8 weeks).

For a car to be eligible, it needs to be >6 model years old. It also needs to be up for registration renewal AND not able to pass smog. In other words, if I take my car in to be smogged & it fails, it WON'T be eligible because the reg is not currently up for renewal. Not only that, but even if the reg WAS up for renewal, but it wasn't a smog year for my reg ('cuz smog is every 2 years), it STILL wouldn't be eligible.

You can only get $1k from CAP when you're renewing your registration and when it's a smog year for your car. I have to see when our last smog certificate was. If it's up for renewal in spring and needs a smog, it might be worth it to keep it for a few months if I can get $1k for it.
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chances are, even if you do qualify and you get your application in, you will not get the money. There is only so much money put aside for this program and it goes super QUICK. So you could jump through all the hoops and still be left with nothing.

Pick N Pull will give you a hundred bucks or less for the car. not worth it.

Carmax will probably be the easiest and quickest way to get rid of this car. It does not need to smog. They take care of all paperwork, you leave with a check.

In the end, you need to decide if this hassle is worth 1k to you... I would venture that it is not
 
MrIncredible said:
Less than 200 I'd guess.

Mebbe $50 :p
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I've sold six cars to PnP. The lowest was $125.00 for a 1982 Civic wagon, and the highest was $635.00 for a 1970's courier mini truck. Everything else was around $250.00. There's a number of factors involved, up to and including the prices of steel worldwide. But yeah, it won't be much...

But the real reason i asked if that direct question was asked, and what the response was, is because the answer the OP wrote down does not sound like they understood the OP wanted to get rid of the car.

I have never, ever had them refer me to the CAP program. So, i think there's might be a failure to communicate going on.
 
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