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Firing squads are back

Anyone found guilty should be obviously guilty since beyond a reasonable doubt is the benchmark
 
Anyone found guilty should be obviously guilty since beyond a reasonable doubt is the benchmark

It's easy enough-say you suspect some guy is up to no good and you look into him further and he's living in some weird barn in the middle of nowhere with a bunch of cats, maybe wandering off to some bizarre travel location all the time. That guy is clearly a terrorist in the making.
 
It's easy enough-say you suspect some guy is up to no good and you look into him further and he's living in some weird barn in the middle of nowhere with a bunch of cats, maybe wandering off to some bizarre travel location all the time. That guy is clearly a terrorist in the making.

:laughing
 
It's easy enough-say you suspect some guy is up to no good and you look into him further and he's living in some weird barn in the middle of nowhere with a bunch of cats, maybe wandering off to some bizarre travel location all the time. That guy is clearly a terrorist in the making.

Nah, I mean some people just like to have some peace and quiet, there is nothing wrong with travel. Now if he was going to the Middle East or Africa or some fucked up shit like that, then I would call the NSA...
 
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Nah, I mean some people just like to have some peace and quiet, there is nothing wrong with travel. Now if he was going to the Middle East or Africa or some fucked up shit like that, then I would call the NSA...

Probably stuffing his cats full of ebola to spread it through the land.

Personally I'm against the death penalty, if only because they've screwed up and had the wrong person a few times now.
 
Hey I'm sure the firing squads members will feel great it when it turns out someone they shot in the face was innocent...oh wait, they're likely sociopaths, volunteering to execute someone anyway so likely won't care.
 
Hey I'm sure the firing squads members will feel great it when it turns out someone they shot in the face was innocent...oh wait, they're likely sociopaths, volunteering to execute someone anyway so likely won't care.

If I recall right some of the guys doing the firing have blanks, others live rounds. They don't know who actually does it.
 
Obviously guilty
Could be someone caught on camera robbing and killing a store clerk.
Someone with bodies buried in their basement.
Someone whose dna was found inside of a raped gagged & murdered victim and were seen leaving the remote crime area.
Someone that robs a bank in Stockton that results in two dead hostages and is later caught n a police chase shootout.

You would think there has never been a 100% certain solved murder case.
Is there some doubt surrounding James Holmes being guilty of Colorado Theater shootings. And he never even lived in a barn.

Why stop with the death penalty, why not abolish prisons all together if no crime can be proven with enough certainty.
 
Just you mentioning bodies buried in a yard as 100% certain who committed a murder makes me hope you're never on a jury of any kind.
 
Hanging is still a method of execution in my home state. The gallows is in Walla Walla of all places. :laughing

That's the sound convicts make as the noose tightens around their throats.

:later
 
Probably stuffing his cats full of ebola to spread it through the land.

Personally I'm against the death penalty, if only because they've screwed up and had the wrong person a few times now.

Hey, you want to make an omelet?
 
Just you mentioning bodies buried in a yard as 100% certain who committed a murder makes me hope you're never on a jury of any kind.

I never said in EVERY case where bodies have been found buried in a basement it was obvious who the murder was.
Are you saying in every case this would be an impossible to solve crime? Therefore no point in even looking into it?
 
I never said in EVERY case where bodies have been found buried in a basement it was obvious who the murder was.
Are you saying in every case this would be an impossible to solve crime? Therefore no point in even looking into it?

There are just way too many variables to consciously have a death penalty. I've said forever that I'm all for a death penalty in theory, real world application is just too flawed.
 
If I were on the jury of an armed robbery shootout defendant where an innocent victim died and the accused had been caught at the scene, leaving no doubt about guilt, I be happy to sentence their ass to death.
 
You may or may not remember a thread, on barf, about a barfer bragging about purgering himself on the stand to get somebody convicted of a crime he was "sure" he committed. So sure that he felt that he needed to lie to do so. I don't think this was a death penalty case, but you see my point. Honest mistake or full blown lies, end result is the same.
 
Some cases are more clear than others. You're caught at the scene of a bank robbery with a ski mask and AK47 and someone dies, you might be at risk of being found guilty.

Perhaps the death penalty shouldn't be on the table for as many cases as its used but it does have its place.
 
You may or may not remember a thread, on barf, about a barfer bragging about purgering himself on the stand to get somebody convicted of a crime he was "sure" he committed. So sure that he felt that he needed to lie to do so. I don't think this was a death penalty case, but you see my point. Honest mistake or full blown lies, end result is the same.

There are likely many more lies told to get someone off with a crime than to convict. Humans lie a lot that's why I put more weight to video evidence or being caught red handed at the crime scene.
 
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