Lots of great info n insight, very much appreciated.
Even tho yes, ive seen sone boxers get their asses handed to em in the cage by mma guys, that doesnt equate to real world street/schoolyard scenarios. I personally have ZERO ground training, and ive beat the dogshit outta numerous "blackbelts" on the street.
I might be completely wrong, but ill take Mosley over Gracie in a street fight any day.
Im reading up on judo n a few other martial arts now.
Keep the info comin!!!
If it makes any difference my uncle, whom taught me judo and jusitsu (3rd deg black belt in the firmer, 5th in the latter) was a bouncer for years as a full time job in addition to running his school. And taught police combat situations for years.
My personal opinion is if you were goin build a fighter from the ground up you take an amatuer wrestler as your starting point, and teach I'm boxing and jujitsu
the thing abotu figgting, from a pure POV is that FIGHTING always favors someone who LIKES to fight. I/E someone who gets off on it, someone who doesnt mind being punched, someomne who might in fact LIKE GETTING PUNCHED. you can take karate or judo but never be a pure fighter, in the sort of likes violence kind of way. there will always be guys who just naturally can handle business. but when you train those guys, watch out.as you said, youve handle dmore than your fare share of blackbelts. I can tell you from personal experience that more than one "tough guy" was handled by people I know who train.
the truth is, americanized martial arts dont really teach full on contact. they dont teach you in many ways what its like to be in a fight, or just know what it is like top be punched in the face. for a variety of reasons (its a business, liablity, just the natural softening of things). so many people take it but never really get into a FIGHT. this is fine. not all martial arts are about getting in a fight, theres so much more to it than that. that being said, if you want your kid to know how to FIGHT, look for trophies or example of the schools tounrament success. find a gym that spars, heavily. judo is great for this because thats all you do in judo, just get thrown around constantly. boxing is great fo rthis (except I take issue woth the head oriented natur eof it and th ehealth effects long term). even taekwondo is very geared towards sparing.
My primary training came from one on one instruction from my uncle, daily insruction that I many times didnt even want. he kicked the shit out of me constantly lol no move was taught, until you know what it felt like, so you were aware of the pain you were inflicting. so you knew what was up. when he moved away, finding a school was very diffacult as the way I was used to training was very alien compared to most schools. oddly enough I ended up in TKD, simply for the fact that I could fight, every day.most of what I learned in TKD ill never use, hell, I was so frustrated at times because of what I wasnt allowed to do in olympic style TKD, but the sparing was key, an hour os sparing, 4 days a week on top of training