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Karate or Boxing?? (for my son)

If'n you'z a good parent, ya'd just buy the kid a .38. :teeth
corndog67 said:
False. Watch the Gracies. The better techinian, whether boxing or Martial Arts, wins. And wrestlers are generally in much better condition than everyone else. Like my Aikido instructor (Jay Bell in Santa Rosa ) once told me, "if someone's wrist is broken, or their shoulder of knee is popped out of joint, the fight is over.".

Aikido and Judo are the ones I like, bht the Judo classes I had, what seems like 50 years ago, included Jiu-jitsu, Karate and Judo, very well rounded instruction.

And the brain damage aspect of getting repeatedly punched in the head would make me nervous about putting a little kid in there.
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Gracie Jiu-jitsu FTW! :party Them Gracies kick everybody's ass. Only reason ya don't see 'em fight'in mor iz cuz Gracie Jiu-Jitsu isn't as entertaining as watch'in two suckaz kick 'n punch each other in the face fer 20 minutes.
Jay Bell, haven't that name in decades; you must be old! :laughing Recon ya prolly know Frank Scalercio too; themz a couple a bad-ass mofos!
 
It's true that the end of the day, the folks with talent and aptitude will excel no matter what discipline they pursue. They can synthesize and apply whatever they learn.
 
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Im a jiu jitsu guy myself. But I'd go with Judo either way.

The stand up he learns will let him progress into a ground game or striking. That's the good thing about grappling- its versatile.
 
Leave it to Barf to suggest anything but the two options OP listed :laughing

Think starting with boxing then as he gets older he can look into other disciplines. Nice thing with boxing is you can easily hang a bag at the house in the garage too.
 
Let me add one more thing. Aside from freestyle wrestling, Judo is probably the next toughest martial art. You kid probably won't ever get brain damage say if he's like 30 and still boxing, but Judo is tough on the whole body.

I've been doing bjj for 7 years, and everytime we do standup I walk home in pain. You can pull a punch but you can't hold back a properly executed hip throw.
 
Dubbington said:
Leave it to Barf to suggest anything but the two options OP listed :laughing

Think starting with boxing then as he gets older he can look into other disciplines. Nice thing with boxing is you can easily hang a bag at the house in the garage too.
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Hey now! :laughing I said karate over boxing bevause of head trauma BEFORE my diatribe
 
imo, gotta see what the kids gonna love...

he may hate martial arts and enjoy boxing or wrestling or the other way around....

if he enjoys it, he's gonna put his heart into it which is a good thing rather than believing one form is better than the other in which if he has no heart, he'll suck at it...

also finding the right chemistry with the students will play a good role and building confidence and social skills which is the real martial art..not the bullshit taught in dojos nowadays..

anyways, a real grand master will observe the child and advise what form of martial art will work better for him or her rather than the fake dojos in the west found in many strip malls across the country...
 
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The Reaper said:
Lil man is 3.5 yrs old, big, muscular, fearless, n strong as fuck. Hes gonna be in sports once old enough, but i also want him in some type of self defense/fighting class.

I have some boxing training, and of course ive been teachin him things here n there, but i want him around other kids for the social aspect as well. I love boxing, but i really admire the self discipline n almost meditative side of karate. So, im kinda torn which one to do. Hes ready n willing for either.

What say you barfers, any insight or experiences?

Thanks in advance....
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I would go with Karate. Boxing has to many headshots for a kid that young. Wait for his brain to form more before you let him start to man his skull up.

kevin 714 said:
always surprised and impressed with the number of people on barf in the martial arts
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You shouldn't be. There is a reason there is such a high % of conservatives and firearms owners here too, despite this being a minority in CA. All of those things are very popular with Motorcycle people. We are a specialized selection of the population. The occurrence of licensed pilots, skydivers, and severe blunt force trauma survivors will also be much higher here than elsewhere. I'm sure there are many other demographic identifiers such as a SEVERE lack of extreme PETA (anti-Leather) members.
 
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Banjoboy said:
If'n you'z a good parent, ya'd just buy the kid a .38. :teethGracie Jiu-jitsu FTW! :party Them Gracies kick everybody's ass. Only reason ya don't see 'em fight'in mor iz cuz Gracie Jiu-Jitsu isn't as entertaining as watch'in two suckaz kick 'n punch each other in the face fer 20 minutes.
Jay Bell, haven't that name in decades; you must be old! :laughing Recon ya prolly know Frank Scalercio too; themz a couple a bad-ass mofos!
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Have you ever watched Jay Bell do a demonstration on Lynn? He does not hold back on his wife. She will hit the mat as hard as anybody. When Saito Sensei came to the United States (caretaker of the Aikido Shrine in Japan), he stayed with Jay Bell. Jay was one of the nicest guys I ever met, but I got the feeling from training for a bit with him, that he could tear off my head and shit in my neck, while smiling at me.
 
If I had to digress a bit...and he's strong....I'd do boxing THEN olympic lifting. I love that olympic lifting shit. Get him explosive and have him do wrestling/mma. I'd lean toward a sport thats got $$$ potential personally. Or just make sure he's doing pull ups weekly if not daily once he gets the right age.

Oly lifting is so addicting. Geting back into front squats myself.
 
Eldritch said:
Same response as if one of your buddies wants to take ballet. Throat punch.
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don't care what some he man martial art boxing ju jitsu maga bullshit say they know...

you can never heal your mind after getting your ass kicked by a guy wearing tutus....
 
Dubbington said:
If I had to digress a bit...and he's strong....I'd do boxing THEN olympic lifting. I love that olympic lifting shit. Get him explosive and have him do wrestling/mma. I'd lean toward a sport thats got $$$ potential personally. Or just make sure he's doing pull ups weekly if not daily once he gets the right age.

Oly lifting is so addicting. Geting back into front squats myself.
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Mma has shit money potential. Shit money. It's almost embarrassing how little ufc guys make, let alone lower tier leagues.
 
Whatever he chooses, you want to make sure it's

1) applicable,
2) that he'll stick with it and actually learn something
3) worthwhile since you'll be the one paying and shuttling him back and forth between lessons.

A friend of mine started his kid in both bjj and boxing. Kid was good at both, but gravitated naturally torwards boxing. Whatever floats his boat.
 
corndog67 said:
What if he wants to take ballet?
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Ballet is one of the most brutal sports in the world, check out how many people that did ballet in their younger years have chronic joint problems in their thirties.
 
I'd say boxing. I spent 3 yrs in TKD, and while learning to block, breathe, and focus your power is good, there's too much focus on formality in the Asian arts. Stuff like forms, traditions, belts, lectures about philosophy, etc. Doesn't help you much in a bar/street fight. There was some emphasis on things like what to do if grabbed by the shirt, blocking knife swings etc, but not enough IMO.

Also, with regards to the current hipster mantra of "all fights end up on the ground", #1 that isn't always true, and #2 it isn't the first priority anyway. First priority is reading the other guy, predicting and avoiding his attack, and then if you must, land a strike that's good enough to dissuade/incapacitate him from doing anything else.
 
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