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Karate or Boxing?? (for my son)

I won all the fights where I hit first. Lost all the ones where I got hit first.
 
Dubbington said:
If I had to digress a bit...and he's strong....I'd do boxing THEN olympic lifting. I love that olympic lifting shit. Get him explosive and have him do wrestling/mma. I'd lean toward a sport thats got $$$ potential personally. Or just make sure he's doing pull ups weekly if not daily once he gets the right age.

Oly lifting is so addicting. Geting back into front squats myself.
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Are you smoking dope? Olympic lifting for a 4yo??
 
Sharky said:
Are you smoking dope? Olympic lifting for a 4yo??
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You motherfuckers cant read :facepalm

Once at the right age. Not everything is so damn literal, shit. Boxing THEN oly lifting. That said, Glen Pendlay had his son lifting easily by 6-7 years old. He's an USA Weightlifting coach and clearly know far more about the benefit than a bunch of knuckle dragging keyboard jockeys like you all. Easy to be 'experts' behind keyboards.

As for focusing on a sport that has potential $$ behind. Personal choice. I wouldnt waste my time with creative egyptian dance classes but maybe you would.
 
I've trained in multiple styles and I will tell you it's not the art, it's the user. Put him in whatever he likes and disregard the 'this style is better than that style' mentality that a lot of people here seem to have.
 
Serious weight training before growth plates have solidified = potentially very bad news.

I don't care if he's a coach - many coaches don't know shit about developmental anatomy and make decisions that are great for performance but lousy for long-term quality of life. Ask any Russian gymnast past 30.

Back to the OT - boxing training, but the sparring - gotta be so freaking careful with heavy contact, especially at that age.

I've done Karate to a reasonably high level, also Jiu Jitsu, Ninjitsu, Aikido, Judo and now doing Taekwondo - mostly because the school is great with kids. I'll be taking them to Wing Chun soon, and maybe boxing when they are older.

Can't recommend Judo enough - you get to practice 'full contact' with low risk of serious injury, your kid will become conditioned, disciplined AND do well in a fight.

Combine with some boxing training and minimal sparring (for now) and you're all set.

Jiu Jitsu is great, but there's a lot going on for his age. Judo is easy to understand and get the basics with at almost any age.

Regarding the meditative aspect - yeap, anything with forms will do, really, but beyond that, it's more a product of the school/instructor, IME.
 
kevin 714 said:
There's quite a few people who make a living as dancers, than mma fighters
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Facts or opinion? Are you really going to argue in such a way thats impossible to disprove and filled with generalities?

There's also quite a few people that are successful drug dealers and professional hitmen too. I mean be real. Context man, context. :facepalm

Guess everything can be argued on the internet :laughing

GTFO out of here with that nonsense.
 
The Reaper said:
Lil man is 3.5 yrs old, big, muscular, fearless, n strong as fuck. Hes gonna be in sports once old enough, but i also want him in some type of self defense/fighting class.
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If a large part of the purpose for this is self defense, find a place that teaches SD appropriate for the age and the situations you're trying to address. Classes that teach situational awareness and techniques for deescalating are more useful than just teaching the kid how to hit, throw or submit someone.

For better or worse, the zero tolerance policy at our schools makes it highly problematic for your kid to defend himself with closed fists and not draw some trouble. Teaching the kid how to stand in a non-aggressive stance with hands up and palms out while saying loudly that he doesn't want trouble is a good strategy for:

  • Avoid making him look like the aggressor
  • Puts the school staff on notice that an adult needs to step in
  • Keeps his hands up so he's ready to defend if necessary

Techniques to break holds are useful on the playground and potentially to escape someone trying to move him against his will. Situational awareness should promote awareness on the more common threats from strangers without instilling unreasonable fear.

Lastly, good training in almost any fighting discipline will help with self confidence, particularly at higher levels. You always hear this and I'd always assumed the confidence came from being "able to take care of business." Watching our own kids, a lot of it comes from their interactions with other kids, especially as their instructors begin to rely on them to coach others. A large part of our self confidence as adults comes from knowing that we can have positive, productive interactions with others. It's true for kids too and the dynamic of coaching others helps a lot with this.
 
Dubbington said:
Facts or opinion? Are you really going to argue in such a way thats impossible to disprove and filled with generalities?

There's also quite a few people that are successful drug dealers and professional hitmen too. I mean be real. Context man, context. :facepalm

Guess everything can be argued on the internet :laughing

GTFO out of here with that nonsense.
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Between the UFC And belkatir there's just under 700 total fighters in the roster. The vast majority of these fighters make less than 10k a fight, fighting maybe twice a year. The number of people who actually make a living as professional MMA fighters, is around 150. Most have day jobs And net loss on their mma salary (costs of training, diet, gym fees etc). Average fighter makes 12-20k a year. Average training costs are 22k






Hows this for fact

The buraru of labor statistics days there are 25,000 professional dancers in the USA.


So, is 456 (UFC roster size) less or more than 25 thousand?
How about 163 (Bellator roster)?
 
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Dubbington said:
You motherfuckers cant read :facepalm

Once at the right age. Not everything is so damn literal, shit. Boxing THEN oly lifting. That said, Glen Pendlay had his son lifting easily by 6-7 years old. He's an USA Weightlifting coach and clearly know far more about the benefit than a bunch of knuckle dragging keyboard jockeys like you all. Easy to be 'experts' behind keyboards.

As for focusing on a sport that has potential $$ behind. Personal choice. I wouldnt waste my time with creative egyptian dance classes but maybe you would.
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Potential $$ for any activity for a child is crap. Piano...nearly zero money potential but it helps kids with math, appreciate music, etc etc. Soccer, same zero money potential but it's a good way for a kid to learn how to get along with other kids and also learn what it's like to win and lose. The list goes on. Learning sports can also help down the road as a social activity. My parents had me try nearly every single sport with the primary goal that I can join any group outing. I even took frickin' figure skating lessons :laughing.
Plus all of those activities helps with college applications. Just don't go all tiger parent on it.
 
I'd say boxing first with a GOOD trainer. Finding one might be the hard part...you guys could do the roadwork together, sounds like a good parent/kid activity..
body resistance stuff, push pull sit ups, and pressing hands I would think be better than going for the weights at this points...10 handstand push ups, and you are doin' OK, I'd figure.
 
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Boxing is great but the kid will need to be made aware of his ability vs others.

The last thing you want is either the kid to be a bully or have other kids challenge him continuously.
 
The Reaper said:
Lil man is 3.5 yrs old, big, muscular, fearless, n strong as fuck. Hes gonna be in sports once old enough, but i also want him in some type of self defense/fighting class.
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I am not sure what you goal is. The kid is THREE-AND-A-HALF. Is your nursery school so badass that you are afraid he will be killed by a four year old? I do not get it. If he took gymnastics, he would be much farther ahead of the game. What ever game it is that you want him to play.
weasel said:
Judo. Learn how to fall first.
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See my gymnastics, above. I agree that ALL people should take Judo before other martial arts. In the real world, there are big people and they charge, and tackle, and don't stand there and let you punch them. But, at three to twelve, I say let them do a somersault and be happy, not learn unnecessary aggressive behavior.
 
If you want him to learn how to fall get him into motocross.
 
traditional judo is good. completely defensive, and will teach him how to fall for motorcycling, etc. I took it when I was 9. James Bond and all that, but it DID save my ass a couple times...it is not a delicate thing.

Our society has inculcated a 'basketball' mentality, that is, drawing the foul is as much a part of the game as the other skills. The divination of perceived liability has made the legal profession rich. Not only is throwing the first punch, on a number of levels, in society, these days, guaranteed to make you the plaintiff , but unless its a sucker punch, it opens up the body for an undefended counterstrike, so why not train in an art that requires your opponent to strike first?

I THINK that made sense...
 
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