My kid is a punk!

[Kim]

Hes got the best spikes out of the 3

cute kid...er..........punk rockers dont liek to be called cute huh? ummmm bad ass looking kid you got there

 

[Removed 4]

Props to dad for being cool
Especially the part about the good grades and no drugs

 

[JakesKTM]

His chances of getting grief if he tries to walk up to a serious group of punks is high. At best he'll get a cold shoulder for being a shopping mall rebel.

Some of the immediate give aways from the pic you posted:

His hair is a temporary style. It's not shaved or cut in a way that's hard to cover up, and doesn't seem to have any permanent or unnatural coloring.

No piercings, tattoos or other mods.

The white tee shirt his friend is wearing is too white. His mom probably ironed it after washing.

Glasses from LensCrafters

The clothes look way too styled. If they weren't bought pre-made then they were probably put together on Mom's Rowenta/Brother auto do-dad super sewing machine.

I'd be willing to bet that at least one of them is wearing white tube socks too.

I'm totally in favor of people exploring their individuality, and it's great that your kid is trying to step out of the main stream. At the same time it's a great opportunity to teach him that there's more to Punk than Green Day, plaid, and boots.

Have him ditch the props, wear some comfortable clothes, and head down to 924 Gilman for a few shows. Take him to see Social D. at the Warfield in February. Then buy him an old ice cream truck on CL for his tour van.

/IMHO.

interestingly that's what he said about his hair too. He wants a mohawk. Wants his head shaved and the center dyed. His vest is completely hand painted and done up with spikes and studs himself. Yea a bit contrived but he's 14 and did put a lot of artwork and personal effort into it to make unique. I suppose when he gets older his punk attitude will shift toward less glitz, more attitude. The girl in the middle is wearing his vest that he had autographed by Agent Orange and Kevin Seconds, which I thought was at least novel and props to the past. He hates Green Day and mainstream pop and definately is exploring the SF Punks, DK, Alterboys, etc..... thanks for the heads up on the Social D show. That's a must see.

I like the Ice Cream truck idea

 

[JakesKTM]

For me, I think one of the biggest lesson growing up in that subculture was the notion that the punk "look" was never really as important as the attitude and the search for individualism and seeking the unconventional.

I think at one point I think your kid should go, "oh fuck, I don't have to deal with this uniform to be who I am", then look back at his life and realized he had some chill-as-fuck parents that love him for who he is.

Thanks.... but he like's Ducati, so I'm struggling with that one!

 

[weak_link]

Thanks.... but he like's Ducati, so I'm struggling with that one!

We all have our weaknesses.

 

[MtnRacer]

but he like's Ducati

Parenting FAIL.



Steve

 

[Gixxergirl1000]

The real question is, how many times has he seen Repoman and Surburbia?

OMG Repo Man... haven't seen that movie in years!

His chances of getting grief if he tries to walk up to a serious group of punks is high. At best he'll get a cold shoulder for being a shopping mall rebel.

Some of the immediate give aways from the pic you posted:

His hair is a temporary style. It's not shaved or cut in a way that's hard to cover up, and doesn't seem to have any permanent or unnatural coloring.

No piercings, tattoos or other mods.

The white tee shirt his friend is wearing is too white. His mom probably ironed it after washing.

Glasses from LensCrafters

The clothes look way too styled. If they weren't bought pre-made then they were probably put together on Mom's Rowenta/Brother auto do-dad super sewing machine.

I'd be willing to bet that at least one of them is wearing white tube socks too.

I'm totally in favor of people exploring their individuality, and it's great that your kid is trying to step out of the main stream. At the same time it's a great opportunity to teach him that there's more to Punk than Green Day, plaid, and boots.

Have him ditch the props, wear some comfortable clothes, and head down to 924 Gilman for a few shows. Take him to see Social D. at the Warfield in February. Then buy him an old ice cream truck on CL for his tour van.

/IMHO.

Ever hear any of Mike Ness' solo stuff? Verrrrrry different from Social Distortion! But I gotta admit, I like it...
My sister was heavily into the punk scene for years... had a band called Spitboy that toured all over Europe, Australia, even Japan.
Spitboy:

 

[fromeast2west]

thanks for the heads up on the Social D show. That's a must see.

They still put on a pretty good show, and the crowd is decent. They had a good pit going the last time I went, though it was smaller than I expected.

I checked prices for the upcoming show, and while the tickets themselves were reasonable, it looks like they're trying to charge more and more for the F'n 'convenience fee'. A $30 ticket with over $10 in fees? $9 so I can print it at home and they save the cost of printing and shipping?

 

[Eldritch]

Congratulations on raising a child who has not been corrupted by hip hop.

 

[JakesKTM]

They still put on a pretty good show, and the crowd is decent. They had a good pit going the last time I went, though it was smaller than I expected.

I checked prices for the upcoming show, and while the tickets themselves were reasonable, it looks like they're trying to charge more and more for the F'n 'convenience fee'. A $30 ticket with over $10 in fees? $9 so I can print it at home and they save the cost of printing and shipping?

This is why live venues are hurting. The price point has become critical mass, pulling down the attendance. Too many hands in the pie. Recycled bands aren't worth the overcharges in most cases, but if it's for my kid, I'll make an exception.

 

[Ray]

I see "punk" kids running around all the time now. I've always wanted to know if they raided their parent's closets to get those "Dead Kennedy's" t-shirts?? I don't get it, is the youth of today totally uninterested in creating anything new? Are they really content with simply copying music and style from 30 years ago? Do anti-Reagan lyrics resonate with kids who were born after the Clinton administration?

For what it's worth, mohawks, leather jackets and studs was never what punk rock was really about. Make sure you show him the greatest punk band of all time (imho) they didn't have a need for any of that...

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[JakesKTM]

I see "punk" kids running around all the time now. I've always wanted to know if they raided their parent's closets to get those "Dead Kennedy's" t-shirts?? I don't get it, is the youth of today totally uninterested in creating anything new? Are they really content with simply copying music and style from 30 years ago? Do anti-Reagan lyrics resonate with kids who were born after the Clinton administration?

For what it's worth, mohawks, leather jackets and studs was never what punk rock was really about. Make sure you show him the greatest punk band of all time (imho) they didn't have a need for any of that...

UK Punk was about liberty spikes and leather jackets and studs, but American Punk is/was not so much. There are many arguments to be made in that regard, but I personally wasn't into punk growing up. I did purchase my first drumkit from the female drummer of the Appliances at Club Foot in San Francisco. I still have the trap case that says Appliances on it. I remember meeting her and she was sporting cropped bleached hair and tight jeans and a t-shirt. She was very cool.

I'm guilty of emulating drummers before me. I think that is a part of learning. Creativity comes after you've built your technique and chops and start playing on your own. Yes kids are creative, and they build their own scenes based on generations before them. But you have admit, most everything (including punk) has been played out to many varying degrees.

Dare I even say that Nirvana would never have existed had American Punk never existed?

 

[MysterYvil]

His chances of getting grief if he tries to walk up to a serious group of punks is high. At best he'll get a cold shoulder for being a shopping mall rebel.

Some of the immediate give aways from the pic you posted:

His hair is a temporary style. It's not shaved or cut in a way that's hard to cover up, and doesn't seem to have any permanent or unnatural coloring.

No piercings, tattoos or other mods.

The white tee shirt his friend is wearing is too white. His mom probably ironed it after washing.

Glasses from LensCrafters

The clothes look way too styled. If they weren't bought pre-made then they were probably put together on Mom's Rowenta/Brother auto do-dad super sewing machine.

I'd be willing to bet that at least one of them is wearing white tube socks too.

I'm totally in favor of people exploring their individuality, and it's great that your kid is trying to step out of the main stream. At the same time it's a great opportunity to teach him that there's more to Punk than Green Day, plaid, and boots.

Have him ditch the props, wear some comfortable clothes, and head down to 924 Gilman for a few shows. Take him to see Social D. at the Warfield in February. Then buy him an old ice cream truck on CL for his tour van.

/IMHO.

And in my HO...

Punk ain't no religious cult
Punk means thinking for yourself
You ain't hardcore cos you spike your hair
When a jock still lives inside your head

It ain't how you look, it's how you feel and behave. Anyone hung up on mere looks is, well, you know...

(Says a superannuated punk from the 80s.)

 

[JakesKTM]

Went with the kids to the Total Chaos show.... there was some good skate punk bands....

Total Chaos looked like HELL but sounded alright. There was an older punk chick at teh show who rode her F800 beemer to the show. She was pretty cool.....Patty Ann.

Going to go see Agent Orange in three weeks

Any SAC area riders should come out. December 11 to see one of the greatest so cal punk bands of the 80's.

Junior got some props for the hair from some of the older punks. The moshed and skanked (sp? am I saying it right).... and I think the band hired some 19 year old strippers from next door to come in and dance half naked.... that was something to see all these punks pitting it up not paying any attention to the hotties on teh stage ....

Good time.

 

[mrc]

Are you sure he's not the statue of liberty?

 

[Janna]

Those are the worst hair spikes I've ever seen.

And in my HO...

Punk ain't no religious cult
Punk means thinking for yourself
You ain't hardcore cos you spike your hair
When a jock still lives inside your head

It ain't how you look, it's how you feel and behave. Anyone hung up on mere looks is, well, you know...

(Says a superannuated punk from the 80s.)

DKs said it best, says another.

 

[Climber]

I'd be far more worried if my kid was picketing abortion clinics at that age!

Good for him, sticking to ideals that came from this own decisions and choices!

 

[spddrcr]

His chances of getting grief if he tries to walk up to a serious group of punks is high. At best he'll get a cold shoulder for being a shopping mall rebel.

Some of the immediate give aways from the pic you posted:

His hair is a temporary style. It's not shaved or cut in a way that's hard to cover up, and doesn't seem to have any permanent or unnatural coloring.

No piercings, tattoos or other mods.

The white tee shirt his friend is wearing is too white. His mom probably ironed it after washing.

Glasses from LensCrafters

The clothes look way too styled. If they weren't bought pre-made then they were probably put together on Mom's Rowenta/Brother auto do-dad super sewing machine.

I'd be willing to bet that at least one of them is wearing white tube socks too.

I'm totally in favor of people exploring their individuality, and it's great that your kid is trying to step out of the main stream. At the same time it's a great opportunity to teach him that there's more to Punk than Green Day, plaid, and boots.

Have him ditch the props, wear some comfortable clothes, and head down to 924 Gilman for a few shows. Take him to see Social D. at the Warfield in February. Then buy him an old ice cream truck on CL for his tour van.

/IMHO.

while i realize you did state in your opinion and others have said punk was not about what you looked like and so on, I have to agree with the others. the green day quote was the best though as you say there is more to punk than green day and then tell him to run down to gilman for a few shows. greenday never was a true punk band yet where did they get there real start? who bought the current sound equipment that 924 Gilman currently uses?
for me punk was about the music and was about the politics of the time, talk to just about any member of a punk band that made a name for themselves and they will tell you politics have changed and there is no good guy bad guy, politicians are all bad guys now and do what is in their best interest.

I was having a discussion with Michael Burkett last year after a show and his exact words were "I am scarred shitless where this country is going and it doesn't matter that we have a democrat as president. it never did it just made for good subject matter".
it is pretty monumental when one of your icons from when you were growing up slaps you in the face with a statement like that, I already knew what he was saying but to have someone who held himself and his morals to such a high standard throughout the years stop fighting the good fight and give up on this country and the idea that he could "help" teens throughout this country change what was happening in politics pretty much made me look at him in a way that is shameful.
when the going gets tough, the tough go bowling in vegas.

enough soapbox for now but it is official as i read the obituary quite some time ago PUNK IS DEAD:|

 

[fromeast2west]

greenday never was a true punk band yet where did they get there real start? who bought the current sound equipment that 924 Gilman currently uses?
f|

I've heard of Green Day's connection to Gilman, but it was before I moved out here so I'm not familiar with the details. It's not that I have anything against Green Day either, their songs are catchy and I've been to a couple of shows. My comment was driven by the number of people who have decided they like punk because they like Green Day; as thought the two were synonymous.

It's been interesting to see how different groups try to define punk too. The scene out here seems to merge with So Cal punk pretty well, but doesn't have quite as much crossover with the goth scene as the East Coast had. I also haven't seen many skin heads out here, but then look at how much that changed from it's start back in the UK.

It's like seeing Doc Marten's on sale at Nordstroms.

 

[JakesKTM]

Just a question....

Why can't some of you just appreciate that the next generation is appreciating bands like Agent Orange, DK, DI, Socail D, Black Flag, Total Chaos, and more...???? I mean seriously, last time I checked nobody was really making a living off of 15 kids in Sacramento showing up to a punk show. Fuckin A

To be honest, my kid loathes Green Day because of the sellout factor! Isn't that punk?

And as far as I can remember, punk rock expression has been is liberty spikes and spiked/hawked hair - Kudos for the effort. Just because the punk subculture turns on itself to rebel against its own expression in its own attempt to redefine, refine, and castigate, doesn't make it righteous. Maybe when his testosterone levels spike, he will lose the hair and just be righteous.....