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NASCAR Driver Tony Stewart Runs Over a Guy

Idiot gets out of safe car and runs onto HOT race track to point a finger at someone. Idiot dies. Idiot dead. Sheesh.
 
Happens all the time in circle track racing... Thanks to nascar and their need for ratings. There's multiple times a guy gets out and throws a helmet.

Not that I watch that shit... my dad would commandeer the tv on Sundays growing up.
 
I read on that link to the video that he had a GoPro in the car and after he hit the dude that he went back to his crew and they changed out his right rear tire...but the cops were aware of that taking place.

Be interesting to see if they get his GoPro footage or if they deleted it...seems to me he was trying to roost him a bit and shit happened...I think he's fucked.
 
if it had been a tire or a piece of broken wing from the crashed car everyone would have been surprised that he didn't avoid it. but it was a human being and we gotta argue over it now.
 
ALANRIDER7 said:
Prove it.
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I don't that is possible to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt. I just said that is my take, and I think that is what actually happened. I think that is what the throttle blip was about.

Only Tony knows if that is the case or not. He will have to live with it.
 
I don't know how much data is being collected in these cars but in WOOSprint it would be pretty easy to determine what the drivers actually did controls wise
 
kevin 714 said:
so I havent realy followed it, but did tony stewart straight murder a guy?!
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At most, he did something stupid that contributed to a death.

afm199 said:
Idiot gets out of safe car and runs onto HOT race track to point a finger at someone. Idiot dies. Idiot dead. Sheesh.
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Are there no other aspects which interest you? If Tony blipped it as a FU, it has literally zero bearing on your opinion of the event? It would be an acceptable thing to do?
 
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ALANRIDER7 said:
Prove it.
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Well, after having actual proof of a killing, like a youtube vid and hundreds of witnesses, manslaughter prosecutions involve proving intent and/or a history of violence.

Now Tony Stewart bumped the car on the lap before. I've only seen 30 seconds of this race, but if these two drivers were rubbing through out the race, or there were witnesses to a prerace incident, that could be intent.

As for a history of violence, here is an account of on-track fights: http://deadspin.com/tony-stewarts-temper-often-resulted-in-conflict-with-ot-1618964477

I'm going to guess there are several off-track incidents as well. This history indicates that Stewart is angry and impulsive, so he is capable of committing violence.

The defense is this happened during a race where anyone could be killed, particularly when you jump out of your car to confront another driver. So the prosecution will calculate if they can actually win the case before filing charges.

My guess is that there is a solid case and enough public pressure to file manslaughter charges.
 
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byke said:
At most, he did something stupid that contributed to a death.



Are there no other aspects which interest you? If Tony blipped it as a FU, it has literally zero bearing on your opinion of the event? It would be an acceptable thing to do?
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I have no idea whether he was trying to steer the car with the throttle or hit him. I do know that idiots who run out on onto a hot track in traffic are pretty much responsible for their demise. In order to find Tony guilty of ANYTHING, you would have to PROVE negligence. I don't see that happening.
 
You hear him hit it, he's sideways, there are indicators of it. Nowhere near conclusive, obviously, but the questions are still answerable since I inserted a big "if" in there. :)
 
Listen and watch. He is decelerating and in avoidance mode. There is no throttle blip IMO.
The guy walked onto a hot track and walked directly into the path of Stewart. I hope there is data cause I think it is clear he was decelerating.
 
I think it's possible that he was trying to roost the guy, but don't think he was trying to hit him. Manslaughter maybe.

I could see roosting someone charged as ADW, and considered reckless. Pretty sure that would add up to manslaughter at least.
 
Wormwood said:
Listen and watch. He is decelerating and in avoidance mode. There is no throttle blip IMO.
The guy walked onto a hot track and walked directly into the path of Stewart. I hope there is data cause I think it is clear he was decelerating.
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If Stew had GoPro/data exonerating him from any wrong doing, why hasn't it be posted? If there's data, it probably isn't good for Stew.
 
Regardless of the video view I think it is clear he is not on the throttle and actually tried to steer around him.

I think folks are reaching pretty far to say this was or will be judged an intentional act of negligence.
 
Wormwood said:
Regardless of the video view I think it is clear he is not on the throttle and actually tried to steer around him.

I think folks are reaching pretty far to say this was or will be judged an intentional act of negligence.
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Some people who were there say otherwise...

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revnort said:
I highly doubt he intended to hurt him. The guy should not have been on the track. Stay in the car.

My take is deliberately was trying to get close and intimidate the dude. Manslaughter. I doubt charges will be filed.
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I agree with that too. I think he was getting close to the guy to scare him.
What a dorp.. Hope he does get career over a t least.

Don't try to pretend. The issue isn't whether 'oh he wouldn't do that to an*fellow competitor*" :rolleyes. The issue is whether he'd do that to other people .
 
Yes. People are drawing this conclusion, no doubt. What I see and hear is him decelerating, avoiding and in the process of avoiding may have hit the throttle. Perhaps it was that blip of the throttle, again in the process of trying to avoid, that threw the other driver in the air and onto the track?

GoPro will help for sure. If it exists it is likely in the hands of the investigators and we will have to wait for the evidence.
 
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