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pepper sprayed for "walking too close"

it wasn't a fucking protest, you fucking idiots it was an MLK day rally.
JFC if celebrating a national holiday is a fucking protest can we expect cops to start dispersing july fourth BBQs?
 
Archimedes said:
We (BARF, society, the short bus) can debate this shit all we want. People can protest until the cows come home. DA's can pursue excessive force cases here and there. People can even win multimillion dollar civil judgements once in a while (it's just a redistribution of tax money.)

The simple fact is this. The cops aren't losing this fight. Law enforcement, the system, the institutions behind it, the broader population relying on the institutions, the system and law enforcement aren't losing this fight. Protesters can protest until the cows come home, until they're old and grey, and then stepping into their grave. And they will lose the fight.

Doesn't matter which side you're on or what you believe is right or wrong. What matters is practical reality. If people want to waste their time/lives in the streets protesting rather than getting on with their lives, I wish them the best of luck. But it isn't going to make a lick of difference. This isn't Rosa Parks on the bus or MLK on a bridge in Selma. The issues are vastly different and the outcome will be as well. These protests are just noise. Which will eventually fade.
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Might is right. Mess with the bull, get the horns.
 
Just re-watched it with sound. She was freaken hysterical and people were moving away when she started spraying. Not sure how anyone could side with police on that one.

Found another angle with more footage. Pay attention to upper left screen. It starts around 0:30. People were just milling around when she started to spray the crowd.
[youtube]dZ6s-U1dKuk[/youtube]
 
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tuxumino said:
it wasn't a fucking protest, you fucking idiots it was an MLK day rally.
JFC if celebrating a national holiday is a fucking protest can we expect cops to start dispersing july fourth BBQs?
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What kind of sausage are you grilling?
 
Going to say something could be perceived as sexist, but...was the female cop overcompensating?
 
I hope that bitch loses her fucking job. I understand getting the crowd to disperse, but fuck man, she went sideways!
 
I am wondering if a flashlight might be more effective than pepper spray..??

Sorry Koi.. could not help it... :p
 
UDRider said:
Just re-watched it with sound. She was freaken hysterical and people were moving away when she started spraying. Not sure how anyone could side with police on that one.

Found another angle with more footage. Pay attention to upper left screen. It starts around 0:30. People were just milling around when she started to spray the crowd.
[youtube]dZ6s-U1dKuk[/youtube]
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In the middle right, there is a man down in all black clothing. I'm not sure if it is a cop, but the cops come to the aid. Were they protecting this guy? Defiantly, more going on when you pull back, but the cop was still wrong.

The think that sucks about crowds is that 1% of that crowd will abuse the safety of the crowd and be fairly obnoxious. Critical mass in SF is that way.
 
Apparently being at a Martin Luther King rally is grounds to be pepper sprayed.
I was not aware of this shift on police policy.

I guess if we keep calling it a protest, it makes it ok.
 
Second video looks like they were trying to arrest or even help the guy on the ground. The fact a stream of bicycle cops came in suggests we missed quite a bit of what happened. If you look at the peoe being sprayed they seem to be the ones who weren't backing away
 
Yes, like I said attendance is now grounds for being pepper sprayed. In fact, you don't even have to be aggressive or intimidating or refusing orders. :thumbup
 
Turns out the person on the ground was a cop that had been attacked by some agitators in the crowd.

http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2025568876_peppersprayedxml.html
But video posted on YouTube, shot from a high vantage point, shows that officers deployed pepper spray into a crowd and used bikes to form a barricade after an officer went to the ground in the area of Westlake Avenue North and Republican Street.

The officer had been knocked off his bike by someone while a splinter group from the rally, which wouldn’t disperse, was apparently moving from Aurora Avenue North to Interstate 5 as part of a traffic-blocking effort, Sgt. Sean Whitcomb, the department’s chief spokesman, said Wednesday. The officer, who was injured, was treated at Harborview Medical Center and released.
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I have been aware of that since early yesterday.

I assume you feel that it justifies the teacher being sprayed? Because someone half a block away did something bad, everyone now deserves to be assaulted for following police orders to disperse?

That's not the way I feel. The gentleman was in no way shape or form doing anything but trying to get on his way home (like everyone just wants to do, amirite?)
 
mean dad said:
I have been aware of that since early yesterday.

I assume you feel that it justifies the teacher being sprayed? Because someone half a block away did something bad, everyone now deserves to be assaulted for following police orders to disperse?

That's not the way I feel. The gentleman was in no way shape or form doing anything but trying to get on his way home (like everyone just wants to do, amirite?)
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If the teacher hadn't been yacking on the phone he probably would have been more aware of his surroundings and moved. I've been in crowds where the police have been involved and its always been a no brainier to stay out of their way. Whether you do it deliberately or obliviously doesn't mean it's fair...just predictable.

The police are responding to felony assault, and there were people in the crowd refusing to disperse. No doubt the lady cop in the first video sounded hysterical, but how do you think they should handle it? How do you think incidents like this would have been handled 20 years ago?

I think you and I both know the real problem are the shit stirrers who deliberately incite these types of incidents.
 
mean dad said:
I have been aware of that since early yesterday.

I assume you feel that it justifies the teacher being sprayed? Because someone half a block away did something bad, everyone now deserves to be assaulted for following police orders to disperse?

That's not the way I feel. The gentleman was in no way shape or form doing anything but trying to get on his way home (like everyone just wants to do, amirite?)
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If they are blocking the crowd from an officer who was attacked, yes, it's more than enough reason. Nor do you know the man's intentions. Someone committed a serious misdemeanor or even felony, yes they do get to keep people away.
 
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