Person smacks me in the head at a stop light

[SuperMike]

Wow, what a douchebag!

 

[Shaggy]

If nothing happened before to provoke this, my guess is he wanted into your lane and took off to get in front and merge. The fact that you accelerated so hard prevented him from being able to merge and pissed him off.

The fact that you stopped after he cut you off is dumb to me. Why not just leave when he stopped? Unless you were also looking for trouble....

 

[}Dragon{]

Sums up this entire thread.

Cliff Notes: Two dudes on motorcycles are riding like asshats in someone's neighborhood. Someone from the neighborhood confronts bikers and "slaps" him (hits his helmet). Now big bad biker who was all cool and lightin' up the tires earlier in the day feels the need to run and tell the police about a citizen who didn't like him riding like an asshat in his neighborhood.

So basically, someone acted like an asshat and another person acted like an asshat to the original asshat to stop the asshattery from continuing. Sounds like two asshats learned a lesson and the problem solved itself.

I'd just call it even. How did you let a VW even get in front of you?

If you came to BARF for sympathy- you are in the wrong place.

What the VW driver did was wrong and what your lil burnout was wrong too. Two wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.

Call it a day and don't ride like that.

 

[splat]

Go back and DEMAND to have an incident report taken. Next time (when you're alone and/or without a camera) who knows what might happen.

 

[Shaggy]

Go back and DEMAND to have an incident report taken. Next time (when you're alone and/or without a camera) who knows what might happen.

And what is the purpose of the police report if the OP doesn't want prosecution? Waste paper? Waste time?

How is a police report going to change what might happen next time?

 

[}Dragon{]

How is a police report going to change what might happen next time?

Nick. You are getting your old man hash marks soon! Kudos kid!

 

[dyeung0415]

If nothing happened before to provoke this, my guess is he wanted into your lane and took off to get in front and merge. The fact that you accelerated so hard prevented him from being able to merge and pissed him off.

The fact that you stopped after he cut you off is dumb to me. Why not just leave when he stopped? Unless you were also looking for trouble....

I thought he was going to make a couple of gestures and just yell at me or "talk." And I thought that was what had happened, but he ended up making a right turn after he took off. But yes, I will keep in mind to just ride off next time someone does this, live and learn.

I'd just call it even. How did you let a VW even get in front of you?

If you came to BARF for sympathy- you are in the wrong place.

What the VW driver did was wrong and what your lil burnout was wrong too. Two wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.

Call it a day and don't ride like that.

What are you talking about? I didn't do a burn out...nor did my friend. It was the VW doing the burn out. And I didn't come for sympathy, I came to ask what should/can be done. And I found my answer. I think some people got the story mixed up, or my english just sucks. Could be both.

 

[ElectricPrunes]

And what is the purpose of the police report if the OP doesn't want prosecution? Waste paper? Waste time?

How is a police report going to change what might happen next time?

I dont remember him saying he didnt want prosecution. I remember police talking him out of wanting prosecution with the whole, "What do you want me to do about it?" Sthick. As a citizen you GOTTA make them write the report. THe system doesnt work if you don't.

 

[Shaggy]

I thought he was going to make a couple of gestures and just yell at me or "talk." And I thought that was what had happened, but he ended up making a right turn after he took off.

You must be new to California... or driving... or both. When do have you ever heard of a person swerving in front of you, stopping in the middle of a traffic lane, and bringing traffic to a screeching halt just to "talk." None of the potential outcomes your mentioned above make me want to hang around and see what the outcome will be.

 

[Shaggy]

I dont remember him saying he didnt want prosecution. I remember police talking him out of wanting prosecution with the whole, "What do you want me to do about it?" Sthick.

You must have not read my previous post.....

If the officer asks "What would you like me to do about it?" and the reporting party says "I just want him to get a reality check" the answer is pretty simple:

Cops aren't in the business of "reality checks." Call up some homeboys from da block if you want "reality checks." If you want criminals arrested, prosecuted, and are willing to follow through with the prosecution of the case, then call the cops.

 

[ElectricPrunes]

Prosecution is a reality check.


Its important for civilians to know how important numbers and spreadsheets are to PD's, and because of this, it's an officer's job to talk as many people out of reporting incidents as possible.

 

[Shaggy]

Prosecution is a reality check.

lern tu reed

I don't feel the need to press charges

Its important for civilians to know how important numbers and spreadsheets are to PD's, and because of this, it's an officer's job to talk as many people out of reporting incidents as possible.

I'm not even sure what this means, but I'll reply with... It's a police department's job to allocate resources in the best and most efficient way they can. An officer wasting 2+ hours of time doing follow-up on a misdemeanor battery with no injury where the "victim" (and I use this word loosely) does not want prosecution, is not an efficient use of time and resources.

It is actually against the best interest of a police department to not report crimes, because if they did it would show an increase in crime and they would likely be able to obtain more funding for personnel, equipment, and other resources.

But you've clearly already got it all figured out...

 

[ElectricPrunes]

I can read just fine. Can you? It's all about context.

I'm not even sure what this means, but I'll reply with... It's a police department's job to allocate resources in the best and most efficient way they can. An officer wasting 2+ hours of time doing follow-up on a misdemeanor battery with no injury where the "victim" (and I use this word loosely) does not want prosecution, is not an efficient use of time and resources.

It is actually against the best interest of a police department to not report crimes, because if they did it would show an increase in crime and they would likely be able to obtain more funding for personnel, equipment, and other resources.

But you've clearly already got it all figured out...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CompStat
Reporting the crime is an increase in crime.

 

[Shaggy]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CompStat
Reporting the crime is an increase in crime.

The crime was reported. He went to the police department and spoke with an officer. Just because there was no report taken does not mean the crime was not documented. Notes on the incident, including the details of what happened and the fact that the reporting party did not want prosecution can all be documented in the Computer Aided Dispatch (CAD) entry.

Again.... a police report does absolutely nothing in this instance except waste an officer's time.

Not to mention the fact that you are citing the crime reporting technology of a police department with more uniformed police officers than the entire population of Burlingame, where this incident allegedly happened.

 

[OnFire]

OP - As Nick said, a person exhibiting the behaviour like that GTI driver most likely does not want to chit chat. Next time, after he got out of the car, pass the car on the right (I understand there might be traffic or your buddy) and let him stand in the midst of the road like an idiot.

Everything else will not turn out in your favour. Unless you are armed and you can properly respond to whatever that shithead pulls out of his wasteband

 

[}Dragon{]

OP - As Nick said, a person exhibiting the behaviour like that GTI driver most likely does not want to chit chat. Next time, after he got out of the car, pass the car on the right (I understand there might be traffic or your buddy) and let him stand in the midst of the road like an idiot.

Everything else will not turn out in your favour. Unless you are armed and you can properly respond to whatever that shithead pulls out of his wasteband

It was a loose-loose incident. Sorry for all parties.

 

[Shaggy]

It was a loose-loose incident. Sorry for all parties.

????????

 

[1085One]

The crime was reported. He went to the police department and spoke with an officer. Just because there was no report taken does not mean the crime was not documented. Notes on the incident, including the details of what happened and the fact that the reporting party did not want prosecution can all be documented in the Computer Aided Dispatch (CAD) entry.

Again.... a police report does absolutely nothing in this instance except waste an officer's time.

Not to mention the fact that you are citing the crime reporting technology of a police department with more uniformed police officers than the entire population of Burlingame, where this incident allegedly happened.

Don't waste your time trying to explain things to people who have their minds already made up. I rarely post anything of significance on BARF because most of the threads (in the LEO forum at least) just turn into a shit show. But it is fun reading them

 

[splat]

Let me clarify....DEMAND a police report, and follow through with pressing charges. It might not save your life, but it might save another person on the road.

 

[ElectricPrunes]

The crime was reported. He went to the police department and spoke with an officer. Just because there was no report taken does not mean the crime was not documented. Notes on the incident, including the details of what happened and the fact that the reporting party did not want prosecution can all be documented in the Computer Aided Dispatch (CAD) entry.

Again.... a police report does absolutely nothing in this instance except waste an officer's time.

Not to mention the fact that you are citing the crime reporting technology of a police department with more uniformed police officers than the entire population of Burlingame, where this incident allegedly happened.

I would like to see where crime statistics take data detailed in a CAD entry over the police reports.

And while CompStat is not the program Burlingame specifically uses, a lot of cities do. And it's based on New York City's CompStat, a city that has been in the news lately for police talking victims into reporting lesser crimes, or not reporting at all. For instance a victim of a car jacking at gunpoint was talked into reporting a missing vehicle. And police in general going after misdemeanors and infractions like traffic citations, and underreporting violent incidents because it looks better in statistical data. If CAD entry was relevant then there would be no point in officers doing this. http://www.slideshare.net/thepolipit/schoolcraft-lawsuit-vs-comp-stat-nypd

I'll stop because im sick of veteran Barfers shutting down discussions without contributing data and external sources, then blaming new barfers for starting flamewars.
OP, listen to splat. Demand a report, press charges, follow through. Watch how the system works. It'll take work on your behalf but the experience is invaluable.