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Pope Palpatine...er...Pope Benedict XVI dead

I'm suddenly feeling the call of religion.

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Catholicism is stupid, not worth an RIP from me.

My close friend who is catholic, because family tradition, didn't give a flying fuck that the pope died.

I do enjoy movies and shows based on Catholic mythology though. Warrior Nun season 2 was fun.
 
Sh!t rolls downhill.

The abuses I suffered in Catholic school taught me that the whole Catholic structure is abusive and is to be feared. Popes are figure heads with the bully pulpit. Neither Bennie or Frank used it effectively and the College of Cardinals, who run the whole show, aren't interested in changing the culture.

Nothing popes do have ever stopped the abuses.

If Catholic teachings are accurate then Sister Constantine (of St. Mary, Star of the Sea school) is burning in the deepest pits of Hell for eternity.
 
Kornholio said:
I guess I'm just unwilling to judge a person (or perhaps an entire generation) based on their membership in a group that was compulsory and began when they were six years old. If that were the case, I'd have a reason to despise all religious people in general, regardless of their age. :dunno
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Most religious organizations don't advocate the killing of other races so I don't really get the comparison but okay.
 
Climber said:
I always saw him as the pope who doubled down outdated stances of the church. I thought he took it in the wrong direction and set them back decades.
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It was the other way round, he was chosen and elected. The Catholic church is full of deeply misogynistic conservative types. They were thrilled to have an old school "hell fire and damnation" Old Testament type as pope. They have been going nuts that the actual Pope is much more of a New Testament Christian.
 
OldMadBrit said:
I find it so ironic, that if it wasn't for philandering murderous tyrant (Henry VIII) the US would possibly be Catholic today.
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Don't suppose too much there. Martin Luthor had already staged his Protestant Revolt by the time H8 did anything to get the CoE started, so he was really just riding on ideas already in circulation that any other British monarch could have just as easily adopted.

The Anglicans were far from the only Jesus freaks that came to the colonies to get this joint started and I find it hard to believe that our founding father, who were mostly Deists (Christ deniers) would have thought any differently in their general rejection of a Christgod. :dunno


The amazing thing about Joe Ratzinger's life to me is the stunning breadth and depth of human experience he participated in. I bet his autobio, if told truthfully, would be one of the single most fascinating stories of the modern era.

RIP :rose
 
mean dad said:
...there's no way him being a member could've avoided influencing his biases and outlook.
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According to Wikipedia:

Ratzinger's family, especially his father, bitterly resented the Nazis, and his father's opposition to Nazism resulted in demotions and harassment of the family. Following his 14th birthday in 1941, Ratzinger was conscripted into the Hitler Youth—as membership was required by law for all 14-year-old German boys after March 1939—but was an unenthusiastic member who refused to attend meetings, according to his brother. In 1941, one of Ratzinger's cousins, a 14-year-old boy with Down syndrome, was taken away by the Nazi regime and murdered during the Action T4 campaign of Nazi eugenics.
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I wasn’t there, but it sounds like it’s more likely the experience left him anti-Nazi than pro-Nazi.
 
tzrider said:
According to Wikipedia:



I wasn’t there, but it sounds like it’s more likely the experience left him anti-Nazi than pro-Nazi.
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Yeah, when they genocide your cousin, that tends to make you have an ick feel.
 
mean dad said:
Most religious organizations don't advocate the killing of other races so I don't really get the comparison but okay.
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I actually feel comfortable with disagreeing with that just on principle. Religion is toxic and I'm confident that they've all advocated for racial genocide in one way or another whether currently or previously.

Regardless, none of us know what he did or didn't do while a conscripted member of the Hitler Youth and there seems to be plenty of stories of how his experiences in that time of his youth made him actually anti-Nazi. To me, his youth is nothing to hold against him. He did plenty as a member of the Catholic church's leadership that's worthy of holding against him anyway.
 
Kornholio said:
I actually feel comfortable with disagreeing with that just on principle. Religion is toxic and I'm confident that they've all advocated for racial genocide in one way or another whether currently or previously.

Regardless, none of us know what he did or didn't do while a conscripted member of the Hitler Youth and there seems to be plenty of stories of how his experiences in that time of his youth made him actually anti-Nazi. To me, his youth is nothing to hold against him. He did plenty as a member of the Catholic church's leadership that's worthy of holding against him anyway.
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Honestly probably not.

Most religions advocate for genocide on cultural lines, not Racial ones. Almost universally, they will accept most members who are willing to submit to the cult. The Mormons were an exception as are some flavors of Jew, but mostly, religion does not target people based purely on their genetic make up into the race categories, which are a gross modern invention.
 
Regardless if he was a Nazi scum, his protection of pedophiles renders him a shitty human who deserves to rot in hell.
 
I have nothing against religion as long as it doesn't lead to the massacres of young and old.
 
Lucky Jones said:
I'm suddenly feeling the call of religion.

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They should test the entire Catholic Clergy with it for signs of life every morning, noon and night.
 
Melissa said:
I have nothing against religion as long as it doesn't lead to the massacres of young and old.
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Historically, the Roman Catholic Church has always been into equal opportunity genocide, whether by torture, stake or infected blanket.
 
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