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GAJ said:
In and Out is a private company.

The other companies are mostly franchised outlets that pay 8 percent off the top to the franchisor for royalties and advertising who also gets to decide when they must add new equipment and or do remodels which most have to borrow money to execute.
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That helps part of my understanding but still doesn't fully address my overall confusion of companies not operating more efficiently if there's evidence of it being possible. We could make a whole thread on the topic and I'd defer to people like you who are much more knowledgeable on the topic than I am.
 
AbsolutEnduser said:
how yo doin fellow kids?!?!?!
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MAN, nowadays even the BEERS have AWESOME cans. Apparently, this is a .. limited release can, from an SF brewery... :wow

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ps. also, please SOMEONE tell me why some sweet gentle people always close the jars with crooked lid :mad :loco;)
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It seems to me we've gotten to a point of oversaturation of beer options that the art on the can to attract your eye and spark curiosity is more important than the beer itself.
 
Kurosaki said:
That helps part of my understanding but still doesn't fully address my overall confusion of companies not operating more efficiently if there's evidence of it being possible. We could make a whole thread on the topic and I'd defer to people like you who are much more knowledgeable on the topic than I am.
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Let's just say that franchisees are there for the parent company to take advantage of.

Not so with In 'N Out which takes a long view of their business.

Personally I don't like In 'N Outs food but no question their business model has been a big success and I wish them continued success.
 
GAJ said:
Let's just say that franchisees are there for the parent company to take advantage of.

Not so with In 'N Out which takes a long view of their business.

Personally I don't like In 'N Outs food but no question their business model has been a big success and I wish them continued success.
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I thought we were friends...

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the first time I ever ate at a burger place was at a McD. Abroad. Was pretty good I thought. Something was funny about it, either I ordered a chicken burger without knowing , or was veg? something was breaded and grassy and chewy about it.

once I ate at (now defunct ) jack-in-thebox right in Downtown SF, 5th st, and then my TUMMY WAS A BRICK in like 1 hr or something. Sigh 🍺

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some local SF burgers are 50% or more expensive than In-n-out but nothing hurts when I eat them. Lookie here, who just donated and won a gift card for them!!! :banana
 
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Kurosaki said:
It seems to me we've gotten to a point of oversaturation of beer options that the art on the can to attract your eye and spark curiosity is more important than the beer itself.
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you're right, young padawan.

I also think definitely, there's been too many breweries. Many have failed by now, some have consolidated.

looks like they've run out of the Sunny Side Limited Release can, but they have so many weird options. I guess one could opt for the ... HOLY GHOST 4-Pack .. Pilsner, not from Plzen.
 
Rumor is the Toronado has been purchased by a Crypto bro. I guess it had a good run. I figured the two ways that place would go would be finding a steward who would want to keep it alive or, someone who'd be shrewd enough to run it into the ground at the right pace so that no one would care when it get torn down and replaced with condos. I'd be good money it'll go that route now.
 
holy mother of shiny surprising news about toronado.---of all the places!didn't know it was such a techbro magnet (hint: I thought it was a rock-star-cash-only hangout) . but ofc the whole neighborhood around (exc molotovs? ) is pretty much a tech-money magnet.

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aaand I was just reading about how LAughing monk brewing is no longer "small/independent" but purchased by someone and merged-over Faultline which doesn't exist anymore.
 
They get some of the puffy vest types in Toronado, but I don't think that is their main business, I have a feeling things might be kinda slow in there after this news gets around. I also wonder if the new owner will be able to maintain the same relationships with beer vendors that the Dave did. Probably not.
 
what an interesting development that would surely be. (Were it to truly develop in that fashion) I should probably drop by to try it again before it... "changes"??

T is the first place I tried an IPA(and didn't like it) and also hot mead, when I had a cold. Decades ago. It .. did hit the spot.

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also yesterday I found out that a pint of sierra is cheaper at Molotovs by two whole buckos--than at a random sports bar in an outer neighborhood.
 
AbsolutEnduser said:
you're right, young padawan.

I also think definitely, there's been too many breweries. Many have failed by now, some have consolidated.

looks like they've run out of the Sunny Side Limited Release can, but they have so many weird options. I guess one could opt for the ... HOLY GHOST 4-Pack .. Pilsner, not from Plzen.
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Agree there are too many breweries. Depending where you are, we're getting to the point were a brewery is as common as a liquor store. There's a brewery about 10 miles from my home called GameCraft. They brew all their available beers. On top of that they have a shit ton of board and card games to play. Video game tournaments. Trivia nights. Nerds and beer has worked out as good business.

The time of opening a brewery/taproom where the only thing you have to offer is beer being a good business decision is kinda over, unless you're the only game in town.
 
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