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The only Porsche I've ever really lusted after, and really, the only supercar that I still love the way I loved ALL supercars when I was a teenager.
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Question about professionals and the Porsche GT
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I'm a lil late to the thread and haven't read all the responses.
The clutch is a BEAST in that vehicle. I've driven it (not at speed- just a poke around the block.) I was too worried to scratch that car, let alone wreck it.
The owner was a LMP-1 racer and he said he hated the clutch and disliked the traction control system (which, IIRC can be turned off). He purchased a 599 Ferrari for his street driver.
I did manage to talk a friend into letting me drive his son's GT3 and it was a blast, however once you hit 160 MPH +, in stock form, it tends to feel a little floaty, at speed. Good times!
BTW: Here is a pic of my co-pilot in the car (GT) for the trip around the block:
The clutch is a BEAST in that vehicle. I've driven it (not at speed- just a poke around the block.) I was too worried to scratch that car, let alone wreck it.
The owner was a LMP-1 racer and he said he hated the clutch and disliked the traction control system (which, IIRC can be turned off). He purchased a 599 Ferrari for his street driver.
I did manage to talk a friend into letting me drive his son's GT3 and it was a blast, however once you hit 160 MPH +, in stock form, it tends to feel a little floaty, at speed. Good times!
BTW: Here is a pic of my co-pilot in the car (GT) for the trip around the block:
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Cool story Ken! That's cool shit!
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Humans aren't capable of extracting 100% of any vehicle. Doesn't matter if you're world champ, you still can't go as fast as an android could.
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It never happened! I just photo-chopped my kid in there!
I know nothing about racing and LMP-1 cars.
Here is me back in the SCCA Trans-AM days:
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THIS
The two things that are impractical for the street are:
1) a pit crew with tire warmers. Real race cars run on hot super sticky rubber. The tires that Michelin developed for the GT are not even close to real race rubber and its impossible to maintain race track levels of temperature. When you try to make a street legal racer, this is the first thing you have to sacrifice.
2) going fast enough for the aerodynamics to work. Down force is negligible below 80MPH.
Real race cars have an inflection in the curve for the relationship between corner speed and grip. Go not quite fast enough, the tires cool and your aerodynamics don't work, so you go off.
Top Gear have demonstrated this a couple of time with Hammond failing to to keep an F1 car in its operating zone and sliding all over the track.
When I used to race cars, we were always reminded to watch out for the cool down lap as this was often where amateur racers go off.
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You need to get out more 
arty More than a few have found roads where a liter bike can be used to 100% 
Manx TT and Northwest races don't count
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there is a rally that happens every year... and on this rally there is a road which is straight as an arrow, without police, and very long! Not saying anything illegal EVER happens on said rally but if you were so inclined it's would be a great place to wind out 6th gear
I'm sure there are other places but what's the fun in going straight?
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How about Pole Line Road?
Edit: Hahah, simultaneous post. Anyways, yes, there are numerous roads where you can use all the power of a literbike. Just that most of them are ungodly boring at normal speeds.
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The only time I've ever tried to wind out 6th. I still chickened out well before the bike started to run out of steam.
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I may or may not have topped out 6th on the 1098 on last year's rally.
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Correction. There are a few roads out there where a literbike can be pinned long enough to reach top speed.
There are only a handful of riders in the US capable of riding one really well. Anyone can twist a throttle.
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I think by "100%" people are talking about more than just pinning it in a straight line, since that's not what the Porsche driver was doing.
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Seems like the last few literbikes I owned (other than the SD) wouldn't redline in top gear I suppose due to drag. I know that was the case with my Kawasakis.
The SD would even with no bodywork and my flabby physique flapping in the breeze.
Of course that was 142.9 mph which is much different than 160 plus.
The SD would even with no bodywork and my flabby physique flapping in the breeze.
Of course that was 142.9 mph which is much different than 160 plus.
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Ive seen an indicated 170 +. I was a long way from using any of those bikes to 100%. I've seen redline in 6th many times. I'm not going to stroke my ego and say I was using anything close to its limit.
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Just to remind everyone of how this chain of conversation came to be...
As evidenced by several posts in this thread, there certainly are places where a mere mortal certainly can use all the power of a literbike. The conversation did not include such things as cornering ability or the total performance envelope, and so are irrelevant to this particular thread of the conversation.
As evidenced by several posts in this thread, there certainly are places where a mere mortal certainly can use all the power of a literbike. The conversation did not include such things as cornering ability or the total performance envelope, and so are irrelevant to this particular thread of the conversation.
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Aman mate.
Take a look at 600 times VS 1K times in local racing…most races we're at, the top 600's would podium in the 1K classes. It's not about HP to get to the limit of a bike...
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Not just power, like Ernie said, anyone can twist a throttle. Using the full capabilities of the bike. On the street, maybe 20-30%. Maybe. Its delusional to think you can use 100% of your 1000rr or anything like that on the street. Ever watch Isle of Man? They're doing it. Have you ever seen anyone on the street come anywhere close to that? Like I said, 20%. Maybe.