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Santa Clara County Lockdown

Just curious, what situation do you envision that places a single rider in a position that will create any more of a problem than the 40 people I saw out walking their dogs today or the dozens upon dozens I saw on the bike path?
 
Just curious, what situation do you envision that places a single rider in a position that will create any more of a problem than the 40 people I saw out walking their dogs today or the dozens upon dozens I saw on the bike path?

The objective of staying home is to avoid being sick, as to not tax the poor healthcare system we have. Everyone avoiding sickness "flattens the curve" and keeps our healthcare system under-stressed.

The 40 people out walking their dogs, and other pedestrians around town are arguably less likely to end up in the healthcare system than a motorcyclist where a strong percentage of accidents are caused by our own rider error.

It may be a bit overly grim but in doctors in Italy have a shortage of beds and essentially having to decide who lives and who dies. We aren't at that point yet, and the current lockdown is a collective effort to ensure we don't. If a rider is taking up a bed because they failed to navigate a corner, taking up medical resources and the time of professionals, it would come across as needless and easily avoidable.



We are lucky enough to ride in one of the best places for motorcycling year round on fabulous roads. I can give up 3 weeks of good behavior to pay it forward for all the shenanigans I enjoy the rest of the year. I hope everyone can share a similar sentiment.
 
This is sombering...

hey friends,
just finished two back to back shifts at the hospital- the first was caring for a patient who is currently being isolated for COVID19, but awaiting test results and the second patient today was 1 of the 37 confirmed positive(+) cases in San Francisco.

I feel a certain social responsibility to share about my experience/understanding since there is so much confusion, fear and mixed messages about this pandemic.

Just a few days ago, I was poking fun at the way everyone was “overreacting”. I said things like, “The flu kills way more people...it only affects people who are a lot older and already susceptible to respiratory issues.”

Although both these things may be true, I think these last two days of work coupled with what we see happening in Italy where hospitals can’t keep up with how quickly it’s spreading- doctors having to choose between who gets a ventilator among large numbers of people...all of it has made me reconsider.

Today I spent a solid 4 hours straight in an isolation room- wearing an N95 mask, goggles, protective gown, shoe covers, hair cover and by the end of it my ears hurt from the tight face mask straps and I started feeling lightheaded breathing through my little mask. That time was spent in my patient’s room making sure she received the appropriate IV access, IV medications to keep her heart going, CXR, multiple blood tests, ventilator suctioning, and just keeping her sedated so she could rest with all the crazy stuff we were doing to keep her lungs breathing. At one point there were 3 ICU nurses, 3 ICU doctors and 2 respiratory therapists- all gowned up- helping keep this patient stabilized. My mind couldn’t help but think - we are only at two right now- what happens when/if our 36 bed ICU is filled with mostly COVID19 patients? Will we have the resources (masks, ventilators, medical personnel to handle that?)

My heart goes out to the doctors in Italy who are in a position where they have to make the choice of who gets to be ventilated and the nurses who are slaving at the bedside and can’t keep up with the overflowing ER’s there.
This is not meant to frighten but to say- this isn’t a lighthearted matter. California shutting bars down, not allowing large crowds or gatherings, encouraging you to PLEASE stay home if you aren’t feeling well- it’s all for a good reason. Even if the flu kills more people, it happens over 3-6 months and doesn’t spread like this over days to weeks. Like the article I shared yesterday said - we are trying to buy time to slow this down ��
Prayers are important. Washing hands is important. Kindness is important. Staying calm and being informed is important. And not hoarding toilet paper is important.
Written by nurse K
 
I'm okay with not riding until I get waterproof boots. I had on waterproof socks, but the water-in-shoe dynamic made for poor application of the rear brake pedal. But I expect this lockdown will last longer than 3 weeks, more like 50.
 
This is sombering...

hey friends,
just finished two back to back shifts at the hospital- the first was caring for a patient who is currently being isolated for COVID19, but awaiting test results and the second patient today was 1 of the 37 confirmed positive(+) cases in San Francisco.

I feel a certain social responsibility to share about my experience/understanding since there is so much confusion, fear and mixed messages about this pandemic.

Just a few days ago, I was poking fun at the way everyone was “overreacting”. I said things like, “The flu kills way more people...it only affects people who are a lot older and already susceptible to respiratory issues.”

Although both these things may be true, I think these last two days of work coupled with what we see happening in Italy where hospitals can’t keep up with how quickly it’s spreading- doctors having to choose between who gets a ventilator among large numbers of people...all of it has made me reconsider.

Today I spent a solid 4 hours straight in an isolation room- wearing an N95 mask, goggles, protective gown, shoe covers, hair cover and by the end of it my ears hurt from the tight face mask straps and I started feeling lightheaded breathing through my little mask. That time was spent in my patient’s room making sure she received the appropriate IV access, IV medications to keep her heart going, CXR, multiple blood tests, ventilator suctioning, and just keeping her sedated so she could rest with all the crazy stuff we were doing to keep her lungs breathing. At one point there were 3 ICU nurses, 3 ICU doctors and 2 respiratory therapists- all gowned up- helping keep this patient stabilized. My mind couldn’t help but think - we are only at two right now- what happens when/if our 36 bed ICU is filled with mostly COVID19 patients? Will we have the resources (masks, ventilators, medical personnel to handle that?)

My heart goes out to the doctors in Italy who are in a position where they have to make the choice of who gets to be ventilated and the nurses who are slaving at the bedside and can’t keep up with the overflowing ER’s there.
This is not meant to frighten but to say- this isn’t a lighthearted matter. California shutting bars down, not allowing large crowds or gatherings, encouraging you to PLEASE stay home if you aren’t feeling well- it’s all for a good reason. Even if the flu kills more people, it happens over 3-6 months and doesn’t spread like this over days to weeks. Like the article I shared yesterday said - we are trying to buy time to slow this down ��
Prayers are important. Washing hands is important. Kindness is important. Staying calm and being informed is important. And not hoarding toilet paper is important.
Written by nurse K

Thanks for all you do in the hospital, it's an industry that is very thankless on a day-to-day pace.

When considering the normal flu statistic, that is 0.1% of the US population that dies annually. Covid-19 is 3%. Covid-19 also has no vaccine. It's a virus killing literally 3x the amount of an average flu and is contagious.
 
Thanks for all you do in the hospital, it's an industry that is very thankless on a day-to-day pace.

When considering the normal flu statistic, that is 0.1% of the US population that dies annually. Covid-19 is 3%. Covid-19 also has no vaccine. It's a virus killing literally 3x the amount of an average flu and is contagious.

30x
 
At this point, my personal risk meter for motorcycling is in the red, so my brand spanking new Hypermotard is parked and if I need to leave the house, I'll take the car.

Risk Considerations:
- plenty of people are still out and about and are much more likely to be distracted, drunk or stoned if they are.
- there's the community benefit side of things, not taking up beds that will clearly be needed in case of a crash. Just stay the fuck home.
- selfishly, if i get creamed by a truck, I want to be flown to the nearest trauma facility and put back together by the best, most well rested doctors and nurses around with all of the resources, blood and ventilators they need. that is not likely to be a guaranteed outcome soon.
- even a minor crash means either a visit to a hospital (the last place you want to be right now) and it would suck to sit around for hours with a compound fracture waiting for an operating room to be available and end up with coronavirus from somebody anyway.

that said, my GSA has a full tank and is packed for GTFO mode if the risk factors change (eg, mass evacuation, zombies, scarcity...).
 
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How about STFU, don't be a selfish little cunt and sit your fucking ass home for a few weeks instead of looking for loopholes to get around this order???! It won't kill ya to chill the fuck out for a few weeks, this is not a game, billions of people around the world are trying to work together to end a global pandemic. Some people... :rolleyes

You're not my real Dad, stfu.

Bbl, gonna go lick some doorhandles.
 
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Anybody can go out and do what they want. It's not marshal law. Do it at your own risk though.
Dont be a Darwin Award winner, stay home :)
 
This interview with an italian doctor is worth a listen if you're considering partaking in a high-risk activity right now: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/17/podcasts/the-daily/italy-coronavirus.html

Exerpt:
Dr. Fabiano Di Marco
OK. Every day we receive, on average, between 50 to 70 patients with severe respiratory failure due to coronavirus infection. Every single day. And to describe my reality, my hospital is, at least in Europe, a huge hospital with 1,000 beds. But to receive every day between 50 and 70 patients with severe pneumonia due to coronavirus, it’s impossible. You have to change your organization day by day.

Michael Barbaro
And tell me what you mean. How do you have to change your organization to deal with people who are in such severe respiratory condition?

Dr. Fabiano Di Marco
So we change it, the normal ward, mainly surgery wards, because the activity of surgery has been reduced off at least 80 percent. And we transform it, so far five wards of surgery for patients with coronavirus. Now we have, between the five wards and the emergency room, at least 350 patients with respiratory failure due to coronavirus infection.

Michael Barbaro
Wow.

Dr. Fabiano Di Marco
Today is the first day in which we have more than 50 percent of the hospital dedicated to coronavirus patients. To organize these, we had to teach cardiologists, dermatologists, rheumatologists — specialists of something very different from respiratory failure — how to treat this patient. You try to find a solution. But day by day, it’s no longer enough. So I can tell you that my colleagues, both physicians and nurses, they cry every day.

Michael Barbaro
Wow.

Dr. Fabiano Di Marco
I’m 47. I’m not so, so old to be the head of a ward, at least in Italy. But I have with me 20 colleagues who are respiratory physician, with many fellow. They are 27, 30. So for me, it’s a huge responsibility. And I was scared they can be sick. OK? But we cry every day. And now, we have today, 460 nurse at home because they are sick. And I think we have —


Edit: a little more, and important:
Michael Barbaro
It sounds like you’re saying that once you are in a hospital as a doctor, looking at a room full of people with this virus, overwhelmed, it’s too late. That the role of countries who are not yet at the place Italy is in is to make sure they don’t ever get to that place, don’t ever get to the point that your hospital is at. And to do whatever it takes to not get there.

Dr. Fabiano Di Marco
Absolutely. You have two choices. You decide to not close all the activities, close the people in their home, and you will accept thousand of beds. Or, you have to close all the activity. There is not a choice in between. I know this is difficult to have this approach, because also in Italy, if you speak with my colleague in another town, it’s quite difficult to understand this. Because many people, including many physicians, have not this perception of this. Because in your reality, all is normal. It’s difficult to be scared for something you have not the perception. OK? So I can understand that in other countries, it’s the same. But trust us, or, such as in Bergamo, each family will have a relative or a friend who dies. This is the situation in Bergamo. This is not a disease that you can discuss on TV, or you will have the perception of this in your family, in your relative, in your town. It’s something very aggressive, very aggressive.
 
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The objective of staying home is to avoid being sick, as to not tax the poor healthcare system we have. Everyone avoiding sickness "flattens the curve" and keeps our healthcare system under-stressed.

The 40 people out walking their dogs, and other pedestrians around town are arguably less likely to end up in the healthcare system than a motorcyclist where a strong percentage of accidents are caused by our own rider error.

It may be a bit overly grim but in doctors in Italy have a shortage of beds and essentially having to decide who lives and who dies. We aren't at that point yet, and the current lockdown is a collective effort to ensure we don't. If a rider is taking up a bed because they failed to navigate a corner, taking up medical resources and the time of professionals, it would come across as needless and easily avoidable.



We are lucky enough to ride in one of the best places for motorcycling year round on fabulous roads. I can give up 3 weeks of good behavior to pay it forward for all the shenanigans I enjoy the rest of the year. I hope everyone can share a similar sentiment.

:flag for an articulate, well presented post. What’s happening with BARF? Y’all are growing up!

Be safe!
Oh- and if you find me twitching by the side of the road, it’s on my hip. (Probably the top case, ‘cause I forgot) Spend one on me. You can have the rest of the mag.
 
The Shelter in Place Order for Marin allows travel for "Essential Activities" under Section 10.h.i.

"Essential Activities" include "...outdoor activity, provided the individuals comply with Social Distancing Requirements...such as, by way of example and without limitation, walking, hiking, or running..." as described in Section 10.a.3.

Thus, riding a moto is clearly permitted in Marin. I believe all the six Bay counties (plus Berkeley which has a separate health department) have nearly identical (copy and paste with county name replaced) orders.

I agree with the above sentiments that to do so (ride a moto) is unwise, as any nonessential activities which carry even normal amounts of risk place a liability against our soon to be overburdened health care system. Under such circumstances, if one needs access to health care, they stand to become part of the triage process. Reducing the inevitable demands from unnecessary risky activities on the health system will delay the need for triage.

At the moment these warnings seem hypothetical and abstract. Unless one works in health care, probably few people personally know a diagnosed covid-19 patient. After all, as of March 18 UTC, there are only 6,516 cases in the US and that's a mere 0.002% of our population.

But a week ago it was less that 1,000 cases. The number of covid-19 cases is growing exponentially (with a doubling time of less than 3 days) and the only way we know to reduce this growth is through "social distancing". Extrapolating the current (do nothing) growth of cases, we will be at a million cases in about three weeks. And that may be the week you crash your bike and need medical care. Did anyone mention triage?
 
If you crash you're most certainly catching it from your interactions with first responders, tow truck drivers, random strangers that come to help, etc. Don't crash.

Bullshit.

How about STFU, don't be a selfish little cunt and sit your fucking ass home for a few weeks instead of looking for loopholes to get around this order???! It won't kill ya to chill the fuck out for a few weeks, this is not a game, billions of people around the world are trying to work together to end a global pandemic. Some people... :rolleyes

QFT.

This is how pandemics spread, not end. Fucking selfish ass fucking people.

:rofl Yeah riding your bike is gonna spread the pandemic. You people are actually convinced that the off chance you crash your motorcycle its gonna worsen the pandemic? What???? Its honestly pathetic that the media and government has turned everyone into a bunch a babbling idiots. This is not going to end in a few weeks. I'm far more concerned with the ramifications of destroying our way of life for this long and having all my rights taken, than this disease. People can't work, they won't be able to buy food in a few weeks. Looting and marshal law will likely be next. I'm starting to think this half baked solution is worse than the problem.

Go ride your bikes. Enjoy the empty streets for now.
 
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People can't work, they won't be able to buy food in a few weeks. Looting and marshal law will likely be next.

yep.

when the government bans you from going to work and you can't feed yourself or pay rent: that's when mass unrest starts.

the $1,000 or whatever that the US govt is talking about sending to everyone won't do jack shit: that's like what? 1/3rd of rent for 1 month? gee, all our problems are solved now! :nchantr

people do not tend to starve quietly in the corner.

I will say that this is the first time in my life I wish I owned a gun, though.
 
Anybody can go out and do what they want. It's not marshal law. Do it at your own risk though.
Dont be a Darwin Award winner, stay home :)

This right here, this attitude, is exactly the problem. People are being fucking selfish, thinking only of themselves rather than society as a whole. "I feel caged in." IT'S ONLY BEEN 2 FUCKING DAYS.

We aren't asking for self-containment so you don't get infected, no one cares about you as an individual (sorry)! It's so that the disease doesn't SPREAD.

Sit your ass at home, have a few beers, work on your bike and do all those maintenance items you've been putting off for months. When this things passes we'll all be better for it. Just stop being so goddamned selfish.

EDIT:

Latter part of my post is in reference everyone in general, not just quoted.
 
Lockdown Day Two. 18 more to go.
 
Lockdown Day Two. 18 more to go.

Lockdown is not going to end in the near future. Three weeks is just to limit unrest. It will be extended many times.
 
Whammy has his Race Simulator up and humming two days in a row.:teeth
I never get tired of driving on track even if its a simulator.
Sucks to be all you who are going cooler coo koo right now.

Its time for cleaning your backyard... ya know you let them weeds go.
Do some bike maintenance, and clean that gooped up chain.
Hell help out and do some house chores X2
Order some shit on amazon you know you been putting off.
I just bought a box of Amaretto cookies:)
Binge watch some netflix crap if you're into that.
Destroy those old hard drives that you know don't work.

Here's a good one.. do ten pushups every hour on the hour.

Complain all you want. Whammy is driving fast on track (virtual) :p
 
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