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Smoking Doesn't Affect Anyone Else...

but it seems there is a point that some portion of SF govmnt are sleazy bastar*s (well duh, as if I could not have guessed by the gel-hair pictures). What I just read today for example, is that they wanted to increase the MUNI fare to $2..since 2005. However, THEY didn't DARE b/c they couldn't do it w/o an "environmental review", which would check whether the increase will be useful or people would just screw MUNI. So therefore, the only other choice left was .. to declare a MUNI fiscal emergency.. which is what they're probably doing right now!?
 
Hi everyone, I just wanted to participate in another "bash smokers" thread!
 
*lights cigarette, sit back and enjoying*

:teeth carry on

:p
 
}Dragon{ said:
Not like it would be hard to guy buy smokes in DC or SSF. :|
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:rofl

expect a lot more people taking their business out of SF...

I went to brunch at Palermino in SF with the tab picked up by a rep of a manufacturer...

he looks at the bill and sees a health tax for the employees and ask what that's about...told it covers the healthcare of workers in SF....

he didn't mind but start calculating the bills for future meetings...

next brunch meeting will be in San Mateo county for over 200 people and will continue to be for years to come...

newsome is such a genius...
 
V4 said:
I went to brunch at Palermino in SF with the tab picked up by a rep of a manufacturer...

he looks at the bill and sees a health tax for the employees and ask what that's about...told it covers the healthcare of workers in SF....

he didn't mind but start calculating the bills for future meetings...
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I dunno, healthcare always sounds like a good idea. What's wrong here is its implementation by "Palermino", as you say it. The restaurant should put this charge inside the price of the dishes and that's all. Instead they decide to be ass**oles about it and bring it "in your face". Read up, many restaurants are actually charging different $hit amounts--so there is suspicion of gouging by the restaurants, using this charge.

Finally, let me add.. "Palermino" is already pretty overpriced and yuppiish I think . I've only been forced to go there twice.. It doesn't look like the waiters care much about anything
 
wazzuFreddo said:
It is damn hard to find a trash can in Tokyo, yet there is no litter.

People in that city actually take a little bit of pride in where they live and take care of their trash, without government funded garbage bins. :|
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Only been there once (10+ years ago), but I remeber seeing tons of people smoking and public ashtrays EVERYWHERE.
 
charge more for cigs.. im good with that. I dont smoke.. but i regularly see people tossing out butts like its nothing. "Hey.. California is my home too and i dont want it dirty." Even with ash trays people still dont give a fluk.. I go out of my way to throw away something in a trash can than to toss it on the street. Ill even hold the item in my hand until i find one.. even if its a few minutes later. Ill trash my car with trash so i dont toss it on the floor. Im sure there are smokeers who do care about where they throw their butts.. but lets face it.. we see it everywhere .. smokers tossing out butts like its part of smoking.

By the way.. im not bashing smokers.. Smokers keep me employed.. thanks :)
 
So, because some smokers litter you punish the whole. Sounds really fair doesn't it?

More anti-smoking rhetoric is what this law really accomplishes.


They should do the same for every product found frequently on the side of the road and see how all of you anti-smoking nuts feel about that.


New law charge extra $.50 for every soda product that is sold in a can or bottle.

Charge extra $.50 for every bottled or canned alcoholic beverage.

Charge extra $.25 for every plastic or paper bag handed out at any retail store.
 
mcarb said:
Smokers in general are the most inconsiderate people around.
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Really Mike? Was I inconsiderate when I loaned you my chain breaker/link press kit? I smoke and always try not to do so if it bothers some one. I rip the paper/tobacco end off and stick the butt in my pocket or throw it away. I don't even smoke in my car when there are others riding in it.

AND I'M GETTING PRETTY FUCKING TIRED OF NON-SMOKERS ACTING AS IF THEIR SHIT DON'T STINK:mad

Fuck it I'm going to have a smoke to calm down:laughing
 
I guess I`m used to seeing cig butts on the ground, the only ones that piss me off are the ones stuck in public flower beds to "snuff `em out".

Nudesom should tax the fookers that spit all over,now thats a nasty habit.
 
Eric,
Perhaps I should have restated that. Smokers may not be inconsiderate in general. But there is a huge proportion of people that feel that cigarette butts are nopt a problem or an issue.

My mom, for example. She quit smoking thank God, but a few years ago we were at the beach and she was smoking a cigarette. She casually slips the butt into the sand. I start to give her a ration of shit and she replioes with "What, it goes away. You can't even see it." I run my fingers through the sand and out comes like three butts. She got the point.

Perhyaps inconsiderate is the wrong word. There are a huge number of inconsiderate people in general. Smokers, in my opinion, are generally not considerate of the fact that there butts are toxic and do not break down. Therefore they tend to toss them anywhere.

As an aquatic biologist, it bothers the shit out of me. These butts kill fish. They end up in the creeks and are toxic. Personally, I'd be happy if the gov mandated that cig companies can only use biodegradable paper filters.

Ands trust me, I am no smoke nazi. Sure I don't like cigarette smoke. But I respect people's right to smoke and think they should be allowed to.

Thanks again for the chain tool. LOL
 
Oh and Eric,
you are one of the considerate ones. If the majority of people realized that butts were nasty, this wouldn't be such an issue.


Shit, now I need a cigarette.
 
mcarb said:
Eric,
Perhaps I should have restated that. Smokers may not be inconsiderate in general. But there is a huge proportion of people that feel that cigarette butts are nopt a problem or an issue.

My mom, for example. She quit smoking thank God, but a few years ago we were at the beach and she was smoking a cigarette. She casually slips the butt into the sand. I start to give her a ration of shit and she replioes with "What, it goes away. You can't even see it." I run my fingers through the sand and out comes like three butts. She got the point.

Perhyaps inconsiderate is the wrong word. There are a huge number of inconsiderate people in general. Smokers, in my opinion, are generally not considerate of the fact that there butts are toxic and do not break down. Therefore they tend to toss them anywhere.

As an aquatic biologist, it bothers the shit out of me. These butts kill fish. They end up in the creeks and are toxic. Personally, I'd be happy if the gov mandated that cig companies can only use biodegradable paper filters.

Ands trust me, I am no smoke nazi. Sure I don't like cigarette smoke. But I respect people's right to smoke and think they should be allowed to.

Thanks again for the chain tool. LOL
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No worries Mike. I know you don't piss on people as a whole and actually I do agree that most smokers are assholes that throw their butts anywhere. Shoot, just look at the ground up at the Wall. Talk about not caring worth a shit.:wtf
 
Bubble Gum? There should be an excrement tax, a real money maker.

Bring back the pay toilet!
 
jiffy said:
New law charge extra $.50 for every soda product that is sold in a can or bottle.

Charge extra $.50 for every bottled or canned alcoholic beverage.

Charge extra $.25 for every plastic or paper bag handed out at any retail store.
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That would be FANTASTIC! Fewer fat kids addicted to sugar and soda, fewer dads sitting in front of the tv popping beers instead of hanging out with their kids and *hopefully* fewer women spending their husbands' hard earned money at retail stores!

Now how do we get this passed?
 
cardinal03 said:
That would be FANTASTIC! Fewer fat kids addicted to sugar and soda, fewer dads sitting in front of the tv popping beers instead of hanging out with their kids and *hopefully* fewer women spending their husbands' hard earned money at retail stores!

Now how do we get this passed?
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Tell Gavin how much free money he can make
 
mlm said:
Only been there once (10+ years ago), but I remeber seeing tons of people smoking and public ashtrays EVERYWHERE.
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It has changed in Tokyo.

The first time I went in 2003, people were smoking everywhere, but they had just banned smoking on the train platforms.

When I was there this last summer, you couldn't even smoke on the street anymore. They had big adds about not walking around and smoking.
 
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