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Street Racers, the show, who's watched it?

Nope.

Various cameras make it interesting.

NHRA with just 2 cameras is boring as hell; like porn with 1 camera.




JesasaurusRex said:
Seen a couple episodes when it came out. Didnt hold my interest. They got some fast shit though that's for sure. It aint real street racing which is probably what bothers me the most about it. That and they drag a 5 second race out like it was 30 seconds with all the damn camera angles. Just need 2 fucking cameras, one behind them leaving til the first gets to the 330 and then show the 2nd one which should be at the finish.

Oh, and fuck the NHRA
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SO may be fake in terms of controlled conditions, but those guys and their cars are anything but fake. Most of them run race shops building race cars and can absolutely build one of these cars. And many of them also regularly compete on the drag strip as well. The show may be contrived, but those cars and drivers are insanely fast. Remember, they're all getting paid for the show and they're likely getting sponsor dollars for using products that appear on the show, so they've got money to spend. Plus guys like that will put their last dollar into a car.

Oh and the NHRA thing has nothing to do with profits and everything to do with liability and PR. Drive on that show and you lose your NHRA license if you have one. That NHRA racer who piloted Gas Monkey's car had to get a waiver to do it and it was only allowed because it was on the track.
 
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Archimedes said:
Oh and the NHRA thing has nothing to do with profits and everything to do with liability and PR. Drive on that show and you lose your NHRA license if you have one. That NHRA racer who piloted Gas Monkey's car had to get a waiver to do it and it was only allowed because it was on the track.
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I disagree.

Every national professional sports organization puts money first and foremost in this country. Look at how the MLB looked the other way when Mark McGwire was obviously juicing then Barry Bonds. Look at how the NFL covered up the long term effects of concussions to players.

These organizations are ensuring profits first. They are a business and a monopoly and they are going to protect their turf.
 
Climber said:
I disagree.

Every national professional sports organization puts money first and foremost in this country. Look at how the MLB looked the other way when Mark McGwire was obviously juicing then Barry Bonds. Look at how the NFL covered up the long term effects of concussions to players.

These organizations are ensuring profits first. They are a business and a monopoly and they are going to protect their turf.
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You honestly think that the NHRA is concerned about a faux reality show on Velocity that has about 500 viewers?

Sorry, but their concern is that people associate them with increased street racing and the associated carnage.
 
Archimedes said:
You honestly think that the NHRA is concerned about a faux reality show on Velocity that has about 500 viewers?

Sorry, but their concern is that people associate them with increased street racing and the associated carnage.
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TV Ratings: Street Outlaws Still Running Strong
Part of Discovery’s “Motor Monday” programming block that actually holds the coveted title of the No. 1 cable network spot for men 25-54, Street Outlaws continues to hold strong as one of the top-watched programs on cable on Monday evenings. Based on the numbers this season, Street Outlaws hasn’t exactly gained any viewership compared to previous seasons, however, it has steadily climbed from 1.5 million viewers for the season premiere to more than two million four weeks in, settling at just under two million a week later with a 1.0 rating in the 18-49 category. This is still short of the 2.2 million that the season to finale drew, but it’s hard to draw an apples to apples comparison with a season televised in the dead of winter with one during the summer travel months.

All other drag racing programming (the NHRA), meanwhile, cannot even be found on the publicly-available ratings reports, with viewership of the Sunday eliminations broadcasts totaling less than 400,000. Do the quick multiplication in your head, and that’s nearly six times the numbers of eyes watching Street Outlaws. This isn’t so much a dig at the NHRA as it is proof-positive that the gear heads are out there, and they’re interested in drag racing programming — it’s just a matter of delivering the programming to them that they want to see, in a format and at an hour that caters to their viewing habits. Whether that’s the NHRA or anyone else, it can be done.
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This article seems to refute your assertion that they're an extremely low viewership show.
 
nebulous said:
Nope.

Various cameras make it interesting.

NHRA with just 2 cameras is boring as hell; like porn with 1 camera.
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Makes it interesting for someone that doesn't drag race, not for someone that does. It's not so much that they have multiple camera angles, it's how they switch back and forth between them mid race.
Kurosaki said:
You don't like POV porn?
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Like i said above, it's interesting in a replay type shot or something along the lines but not otherwise imo. If they could save the in car and POV stuff for after they show the race then I wouldn't have an issue with it.
Archimedes said:
Oh and the NHRA thing has nothing to do with profits and everything to do with liability and PR. Drive on that show and you lose your NHRA license if you have one. That NHRA racer who piloted Gas Monkey's car had to get a waiver to do it and it was only allowed because it was on the track.
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Wrong
 
Archimedes said:
You honestly think that the NHRA is concerned about a faux reality show on Velocity that has about 500 viewers?

Sorry, but their concern is that people associate them with increased street racing and the associated carnage.
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The NHRA is full of internal political tripe. They wanted my brother to put up almost $100k to race in Promod, because he has DOHC. Mind you, he'd be the only racer using factory heads, the same ones that come on the production car.

NHRA is dying. There are two popular classes left. Top Fuel and Funny Car.
 
Can somebody ballpark what the components on one of their top 3 cars would cost?

Just curious, I know it must be a boatload of money!
 
JesasaurusRex said:
Seen a couple episodes when it came out. Didnt hold my interest. They got some fast shit though that's for sure. It aint real street racing which is probably what bothers me the most about it. That and they drag a 5 second race out like it was 30 seconds with all the damn camera angles. Just need 2 fucking cameras, one behind them leaving til the first gets to the 330 and then show the 2nd one which should be at the finish.

Oh, and fuck the NHRA
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Whats wrong with the NHRA?

-innocent noob.
 
Climber said:
TV Ratings: Street Outlaws Still Running Strong

This article seems to refute your assertion that they're an extremely low viewership show.
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My comment was an exaggeration, but the reason the NHRA has a desire to keep people off SO is PR, not money. Whether SO is successful or not has no negative bearing on NHRA. In fact, if anything, it increases interest in drag racing, which would be a positive to the NHRA. The oppose drivers being involved for PR reasons, because it's illegal and extremely dangerous. They don't want their brand associated with it in any way and if they allowed known NHRA drivers to participate, it would link their brand to it.
 
JesasaurusRex said:
Wrong
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Really? Go back and watch the show that just aired a few weeks ago. They state in the show that initially the NHRA was not going to even allow Alex Laughlin to drive the car in the latest race, but agreed given the controlled conditions on the track.
 
Climber said:
Can somebody ballpark what the components on one of their top 3 cars would cost?

Just curious, I know it must be a boatload of money!
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I believe Chief commented that the original Crow was in the ballpark of $100k. My guess is that the cost is as low as $65k ish for the El Camino to $200k or more for the Pro Mods, but that's for the car. The operating cost to keep it running has got to be enormous given how often they grenade the motors.
 
Archimedes said:
My comment was an exaggeration, but the reason the NHRA has a desire to keep people off SO is PR, not money. Whether SO is successful or not has no negative bearing on NHRA. In fact, if anything, it increases interest in drag racing, which would be a positive to the NHRA. The oppose drivers being involved for PR reasons, because it's illegal and extremely dangerous. They don't want their brand associated with it in any way and if they allowed known NHRA drivers to participate, it would link their brand to it.
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I agree that it's very dangerous and I can understand that the NHRA wouldn't want to be associated with it because of the dangers it poses to race like the SA folk do in most of their races.

I think it does increase interest, but the NHRA hasn't been good at delivering the 'character' side of it, all the 'all the glory to god' can only take them so far, I think that people are attracted to the raw side of characters and these guys are about as raw as it gets.

I do think that loss of revenue is part of the equation, it's present with every professional sports organization, something that I don't really like, especially when it also extends into the amateur organizations, many of which are getting taken over by greedy MBA assholes who are most interested in how large their own bank accounts are.

It will be interesting to see if the NHRA evolves as a result of this show, I think that people will always want to watch incredible machines being pushed to the limit.
 
Climber said:
Can somebody ballpark what the components on one of their top 3 cars would cost?

Just curious, I know it must be a boatload of money!
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My brothers Nova (TT Small Block Chevy, about 2200hp tube frame car), cost him about $65k to build with favors and "you owe me" parts. Steel roof and rear quarters, just like the show. All in cost without that would have been close to $100. His current car (Promod NMCA Mustang), is in the neighborhood of $150k. To have someone build it, he'd be closer to $220k.
 
msethhunter said:
My brothers Nova (TT Small Block Chevy, about 2200hp tube frame car), cost him about $65k to build with favors and "you owe me" parts. Steel roof and rear quarters, just like the show. All in cost without that would have been close to $100. His current car (Promod NMCA Mustang), is in the neighborhood of $150k. To have someone build it, he'd be closer to $220k.
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Thanks for the info! :thumbup

It sounds about where I thought it might, I know that some of those components don't come cheap and if they really are running 4,000 HP on Ryan's car there is major league forces going on that would require some very specially engineered parts that would be good for a few runs then have to be replaced due to the metal fatigue they'd be subjected to.

When they talk about the purses, especially the smaller ones like $16k I wonder how many of them spent that just to get to the race with all of the equipment, parts, gas and labor involved.
 
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