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The Electric Motorcycle Thread

Been following this dude on Instagram for a while he stunts an Empulse TT in Cirque Du Soleil, he just posted this today. Do you need a clutch to do wheelies? Not with the torque of an electric motor.

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This is an earlier video he posted:
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Lately he has been stunting a Redshift, they're definitely testing the strength of the frame and suspension components =P
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Interesting something like this might work since the price of batteries is going down. Way to not show the battery swap Yamaha.
 
Storms a comin! A year late anyway!... I like what I hear in this video. 60ish miles of range, 263lbs ehh it's a little porky I could work with that. $7200 price tag, if that is true it's going to be the best bang for your buck electric dirtbike.

Battery weighs around 60lbs, it's almost 3x the weight of the Light Bee battery.

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HadesOmega said:
Interesting something like this might work since the price of batteries is going down. Way to not show the battery swap Yamaha.
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Battery is by Gogoro. Since that ad is aimed at Taiwanese people, they already aware of the Gogoro battery swap deal. From what I understand, there has been a debate amongst the Taiwan government and Taiwan scooter manufacturers to adopt a standard battery pack for the battery swap infrastructure in Taiwan. I think so far it's Gogoro plus Aeon/PGO/Yamaha. Kymco is their competitor with the Ionex.

To me, this scooter is not really a Yamaha, it's a Gogoro with a Yamaha badge.
 
Fancy electric rally bike
https://electricmotorcycles.news/the-t-race-rally-pro-2021-is-100-dakar-ready/

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Charging Cake Kalk& and Sur Ron at Level 2 charging stations

I now charge both my Sur Ron and Cake Kalk& at Level 2 EVSE charging stations like ChargePoint stations. This has opened up more options for me now and I'm really happy about that. Here is my personal website post.

Even though the EVSE stations are 220v vs home 110v the bikes do not charge faster, but the same as if they are plugged into a 110. There are several reasons for this and of course I'd love to have fast charging. But considering most only charge their bikes (including Zeros) at home the option of using EVSE stations is akin to only filling up gas bikes at home and never using gas stations. Just gives me peace of mind that I can now charge along the way.
 

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MrMarkK said:
I now charge both my Sur Ron and Cake Kalk& at Level 2 EVSE charging stations like ChargePoint stations. This has opened up more options for me now and I'm really happy about that. Here is my personal website post.

Even though the EVSE stations are 220v vs home 110v the bikes do not charge faster, but the same as if they are plugged into a 110. There are several reasons for this and of course I'd love to have fast charging. But considering most only charge their bikes (including Zeros) at home the option of using EVSE stations is akin to only filling up gas bikes at home and never using gas stations. Just gives me peace of mind that I can now charge along the way.
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It's dependent on the output of the charger. The stock output of the Sur Ron charger is 10A. If you can get a like a 20A charger you can charge twice as fast, but it's not cheap and well you have to carry it with you. The more power it outputs generally the larger the charger would be. The onboard charger on the Empulse TT is probably like double or triple the size of the Sur Ron charger and outputs 3kwh or around 24A.
 
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Haha this is a great video it's like those 90's commercials

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How does the battery's internal BMS handle increased amperage? And does doubling/tripling amps damage the cells over time?

HadesOmega said:
It's dependent on the output of the charger. The stock output of the Sur Ron charger is 10A. If you can get a like a 20A charger you can charge twice as fast, but it's not cheap and well you have to carry it with you. The more power it outputs generally the larger the charger would be. The onboard charger on the Empulse TT is probably like double or triple the size of the Sur Ron charger and outputs 3kwh or around 24A.
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It should be safe to charge the battery at 1C. Those little lipo batteries can hand it and more 2C or 3C. The Sur Ron has a 32AH battery so you figure you can safely charge it at 32A, the battery will charge in 1 hour. At least Lipo batteries I know you can. But yeah I'm not sure how the stock Sur Ron BMS will like charging at higher rates. I do know if the battery overheats or is too cold the BMS will not allow it to charge, I've found that out on the race track and camping in really cold conditions. Also if you go over voltage the BMS might cut out also, like if you regen a lot when the battery is fully charged. If you have time to spare charging at lower amps is better, doesn't heat the battery up as much.

I can charge my Lite Speed pack at 12A but the Lite Speed pack's Sony VTC cells are much better than what's in the Sur Ron pack.
 
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Free Electric mopeds for all!


https://newrepublic.com/article/160638/buy-everyone-electric-moped-climate-change

There are many complementary—and competing—approaches to reducing emissions, but I would like to suggest one idea Biden and his team may not have thought of: Buy every adult American an electric moped.
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It seems misguided to give people large incentives to purchase heavier electric vehicles without equivalent or greater subsidies for much lighter ones.
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sk8norcal said:
Free Electric mopeds for all!


https://newrepublic.com/article/160638/buy-everyone-electric-moped-climate-change


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I believe DataDan has the numbers saved somewhere, but I recall an article he posted ages back detailing something along the lines of how just 10% of drivers switching to motorcycles would reduce something like 45% of traffic congestion - and by extension, a huge reduction in emissions, though I don't think that was the primary focus of that particular article. The numbers just kinda stuck in my head though : 10% switch for nearly half the traffic sounded awesome.
 
I heard supposedly motorcycles are more polluting than automobiles because they don't have all the same emissions equipment a car has.

Like my Prius can get up to 50mpg and most motorcycles get around 50mpg but the Prius is much more heavy.
 
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