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Thoughts on SUV?

Know what the best car for getting kids in and out of? A minivan, low to the ground and doors that slide open.

You can rationalize that you are cooler and different in every single way, but in the end, a minivan is the most practical family mobile :|

I was in Hawaii late last year and the rental car company gave me a free upgrade. Had the option to get a Camaro, Challenger, or a Charger. None of them would fit the car seat comfortably, so I settled for the minivan. :mad:mad:mad

OMG what an amazing experience. Side doors were remote operated, it was ridiculously easy to get the car seats in and out of the van, and my GF was SUPER comfortable in the back seat. The amount of cargo space in the van was ridiculous. I currently have an Acura MDX and plan on selling it within the next few months. I might have to replace it with a minivan. :laughing
 
The Van Beckons :laughing

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I know that I am the exact target for this ad and I am fine with that. :party
 
I'm gonna laugh when you end up with twins - or triplets.

A friend of mines reaction when his wife told him that they were going to have twins, "We can't have twins, our house isn't big enough." :p
 
Matt; either the new Explorer sport with ecoboost or my personal favorite: 1986 Jeep Grand Wagoneer, fully restored.

The Ford's are very good for the money. Just bought a 2014 for my sister a few weeks ago. I'm pretty bearish on Ford lately, but after all of my research, I ended up at the Exploder.
 
there's always the outback or something by subie...:dunno
 
Fuck it. I bought a fleet return Escalade, 2008, in 2010. $30,000, 20,000 miles. New price was $68,000, the only options it didn't have were the moonroof, the chrome wheels and the navigation package. Aluminum 6.2, 403 hp, 417 lb ft o'torques, 6 speed auto. It gets better mileage than my 4.8 truck. And with that power it is fun to drive. It's been 100% reliable. I fully expect it to remain reliable, even as we approach 100k. It's all I need, something that starts every time. And it will run 90+mph all day long. But those Escalades do piss some people off though.
 
I'm impressed that the 6.2 Escalade gets better mileage than your 4.8 truck. I guess the 6 speed probably helps compared to the 4L60E in your truck, maybe it has cylinder deactivation too?
 
I'm impressed that the 6.2 Escalade gets better mileage than your 4.8 truck. I guess the 6 speed probably helps compared to the 4L60E in your truck, maybe it has cylinder deactivation too?

Not sure, maybe Rob can answer that. Truck gets 15, maybe 16, Escalade gets over 17, and in steady state cruise control at 76 mph, I've seen the current usage indicator at 20+mpg. With 100hp more than the truck . I believe you are correct about the trans. My buddies 5.3 with 6 speed gets better than my 4.8 with 4speed.
 
Escalade definitely has 4cylinder mode. The4.8 probably does too, but as said 6 speeds and 100/more HP mean the engine is in the max efficiency range more frequently
 
Whether or not the 4.8 has it depends on the year, I think they got it around the same time as the 6 speed.
 
I have driven the Grand Cherokee as a rental and liked it. It was great In the snow. Nissan Xerra anther great snow capable SUV.
 
Idk if this has been suggested, I would go X3 or X5 (probably used on the 5 to stay under budget)
 
Minivan.

I bought an '02 Odyssey off-lease in '04, gave it to the ex in '10, and that goddamn thing is still going strong with almost 300k miles on it.
 
i just bought a used vehicle after wheeling and dealing with several dealers on a comparable brand new one

I got the price so low on new, i ventured and looked over at used market and started to bring that discount from new - to used over to the used market, fyi the brand new was going to be 33k OTD with a msrp of like 40k

chrysler financing has some CRAZY incentives, and TBH you really need to run the #'s through the dealership oem mfg financing, let them run it, the MFG are throwing crazy incentives around.

for example a brand new 2014 hemi 4x4 dodge 1500 ram had 0% financing for 60 months, that deal was literally only on the last week of February when i finally saw it - after window shopping and calling dealers for about a month nobody mentioned it till boom one guy said whoa - i didnt even know but chrysler is offering 0% on new 2014 4x4 hemi 1500 ram for 60months until the end of this month (Feb) and all i do is sell rams trucks all day. Maybe to help blowout last year stock

i took my 33k OTD, for brand new 2015 then started dropping that # on used dealers with the same model truck 2014, 1 year older with 20k some miles

eventually i found a truck that is better equipped (1 trim lvl higher) for 2k less OTD, although its used 2014 with 26k miles

after finding the best OTD price on the used model i wanted, i called 7 other local dealerships that had pretty much the same truck with different colors and mileage, this is the call you want to make - you know your price now and your recalling them back to work for you

i picked the best color i liked, with the 2nd lowest miles and made the dealer go to work for me,

AFTER I MADE THAT DEALER MATCH THE PRICE OVER THE PHONE

i show up with my trade in, not only do i show up with my trade in, but i have a known price that i want for it, (i went back to the nissan dealer where i bought my truck for and got a trade in price)

Surprising enough my truck is in high demand, the value of trade in would be exactly what i wanted to sell the truck privately, this secures the fact that I should infact trade it, because notoriously the dealer would underpay you easily 10-20% plus compared to blue book. But not this case

I force the dealership to payout exactly what the Nissan would pay and its a done deal.

In the end, i would allow the salesmen try to see what kind mfg incentives are going on, they could be extremely ridiculous, like finance 0% with 60 months and GET BONUS $3500 off vehicle purchase price, or something along those lines

you never know if you never try, and im telling you straight up, sometimes the mfg incentives and financing works for you in the long run if you run all the #'s

another example, your bank gives your apr 1.9%, but chrysler gives you 2.25% same months, but chrysler gives you $3k off purchase price right in the beginning, even with the higher APR, your bonus $3k off the purchase price still saves you money compared if you financed it with your bank at the lower APR

I would not drop the trade in info UNTIL AFTER YOU SETTLED ON YOUR PRICE, lemme explain why, when you trade in your vehicle, that dealer has a 2nd way to make sales/commission, I view it as this, the OTD price we settled on was given to a individual that does not have a trade in, since i have a trade in, i know your either going to recondition and sell vehicle on your lot or it goes to auction for used car dealers, your going to be able to make more $ off me with my trade in then the guy who doesnt have the trade in

if they tell you any other reason why they would not make more $ then a guy who doesnt have a trade in, then ask them why would dealerships even be in the business to buy back trade in cars? Because they do make a entire 2nd commission off your trade in.

Save your trade in card as a final resort if the OTD price is not what you want.

Another tactic i used, if the OTD price was $500 more then what i wanted, i would just ask for the extended warranty to be thrown in, free rentals for anytime my vehicle is in their shop, scotchbright the interior and linex the bed etc, basically asking for all the upsells financing tries to sell you
 
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oh i mean let them run it, as in check out the deals, but dont do a credit check to see if you actually qualify, just ask them what are the current incentive deals, they usally respond with the absolute best ones, and then go "if you qualify"
 
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