United White College Fund

[nine]

btw some of you are behind the times, because as far as I know, AA does not apply to the admissions policies of California Universities. In fact, if it did, many highly qualified Asians would be rejected as Asians are the "over-represented" minority.

 

[nine]

Well, Asians are taking are becoming the majority on College campuses around here. Does that mean we should stop Asian Scholarship programs?

Scholarships != admissions

Regardless of whether or not there were AA policies, Asians have always been admitted (at least to the UC system) based primarily on merit. After all, Asians make up a small percentage of the population. Yet, they make up a large (sometimes majority) percentage of the college population. If anything, the effect of AA would be to exclude Asians based on representation. In fact, when I was an undergrad at Cal, there were some accusations of "reverse discrimination" by the UC.

 

[Graffe]

not to offend anyone but one problem white people have is thinking that if they do something black people are going to have a problem! The only person thats going to have a problem is Jesse Jackson or some poor worthless person that doesnt matter! Black people that work hard for what they have dont care about shit like that cause there doing what they have to do already.

You rock pal.

 

[GetaGripGreg]

People don't have a clue (Matthew Coday). There are plenty of groups that happen to be based around their community background, and they do fund raising for the causes that are important in their communities. Italian Americans, Irish Americans, Korean Americans, Chinese Americans, Whatever Americans.

Just because a group forms to support other people in their community does not make them discriminatory or racist. If the black community (or any other) pulls together and raises money to send their sons and daughters to college, two thumbs up.

It has nothing at all to do with affirmative action.

Whether or not the government funds programs based on ethnicity or race is another subject entirely.

In other news:
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AP Newswire, March 3, 2003
Charleston - Senator Robert C. Byrd (D. WV) announced today the formation of the United White Trash Hillbilly Cracker College Fund. In a press statement, Byrd said, "Finally the sons and daughters of the Confederacy, so long mired in their rusting West Virginia shacks, will now be able to afford to graduate from elementary school instead of dropping out to run Pappy's crystal meth lab."

Fellow Democrats in West Virginia applauded Byrd's initiative, with one source close to the Senator saying, "We hope that this initiative will finally reduce the amount of inbreeding in Appalachia. With kids spending more time in school, there's less opportunity for playing "Monica and Bill" in the woodshed. We expect the IQ rates in the hills to raise by an average of 6.7 points in the next ten years."

The primary contributor to the new scholarship fund so far is the Cracker Barrel Old Country Store chain, based in Lebanon, Tennessee.

 

[RC51rider]

Hey some one should get into the entertainment business and create a television network similar to BET (Black Entertainment Television) but calling it WET (White Entertainment Television)

 

[Mike95060]

Hey some one should get into the entertainment business and create a television network similar to BET (Black Entertainment Television) but calling it WET (White Entertainment Television)

NBC, CBS, ABC? why dont those count?

 

[Mistyz]

That about sums it up I was too lazy to type more than a 1 liner

<rant>
I think the way this guy is going about his fund is sorta hostile, but very legitimate and understandable. White people are always the bad guys, anything we do is wrong. This is kinda like a slap in the face to that, and will let people think about the flip side of the arguement. Cause if someone says he is wrong, or a black rights group bitches about it, they'll be discrediting some of their very own programs.

And you'd be surprised how hard it is to get free money because you are white. It's not about getting INTO the college, it's about paying for it. I can't get a scholarship if my life depended on it. While black/hispanic/asian kids with similar grades and such do..

I don't like Affirmative Action either. I think it's a biased or racist policy. The best person should always have priority for whatever the pertaining situation. Maybe we should have every race of president because the last 100 or so were white? I think not. If you aren't qualified for a position, you shouldn't be entitled to it. AA really irritates me, and it could be the downfall of american commerce and industry if kept in place.. More intelligent and hard working people suffer because of some "fairness" law that makes absolutely no sense.

I could go on for hours, as I'm very opinionated on the subject. But in 20 or 30 years, white people will be the minority in Urban areas.

</rant>

Oh yea I'm not racist. Just opinionated.

- Everett

 

[soR1n]

United BARF riders college fund....?

<---BARF college student

sounds like a good idea to me.. by the way if anyone wants to donate some $, send me a PM and i can give you the email address for my paypal account

j/k...

but seriously, the barf riders college fund is a pretty cool idea.. not sure how much $ barfers are willing to donate, but heck, any $ helps...

but just to stay on topic, i also agree w/ ducky fresh. it is pretty hard getting any scholarship $, being white. people who award scholarships dont care about how much the person actually needs the $, they just assume if you're a certain race, that you're gonna need it and that its tougher for you to afford college. because scholarships are for the purpose of paying for college, not getting into one. i have a lot of wealthy friends who belong to those "minority" races, yet i struggle financially more than them, and they still get more scholarships than i ever did. what im trying to say is forget the race-related scholarships, and just offer them to the more needy people.

 

[Ducky_Fresh]

AA is a problem in some parts/schools/universities in America still..

University of Michigan is facing a lawsuit about it in fact. Surprisingly (to me), Microsoft, intel, and a lot of BIG companies, as well as former generals, are actually promoting AA in college.

For the life of me, I cannot understand why!

It will most likely go to the supreme court.

- Everett

 

[BlackFonz]

AA isnt just for black people, its for women and disabled people also. In all the interviews I've been on I dont think I have ever been interviewed by a black person. I dont care about AA cause I know I'm the shit! We would all like to belive that the interviewer would choose by the skills thats the person interviewing has but there is no way to be sure of that.

 

[rsrai]

AA is a problem in some parts/schools/universities in America still..

University of Michigan is facing a lawsuit about it in fact. Surprisingly (to me), Microsoft, intel, and a lot of BIG companies, as well as former generals, are actually promoting AA in college.

For the life of me, I cannot understand why!

It will most likely go to the supreme court.

- Everett

some ivy league universities are also in trouble due to its "grandfathering" kids of alumni in.

 

[mikedawgZX-6R]

huh.... I always wondered why there was no White club in high school...

 

[Ducky_Fresh]

haha Kiltwearin fool got me fooking GOOD there man! Kudos bro..

Yea, damn wonder bread boys like me seem to be president. In fact, hey all of them have been!! But Guess what, a woman will be president before a black guy I bet! Kinda fucked up, but those rural areas of the nation count for alot of the US.

And yea, Bush is a fucking tool, we all know that by now. He's a good puppet for the show... Wonder how much control his dad actually has over him.

- Everett

 

[Wolf]

huh.... I always wondered why there was no White club in high school...

Some kids tried to start one at my high school a couple years before I attended. One of my teachers told me this. There were all sorts of ethnic clubs, so a group tried to create a Caucasian Club. It lasted about 1 day before the administration shut it down. That seems to be racist to me. The other ethnic clubs are allowed to remain, but not the club for whites?

 

[Wolf]

a woman will be president before a black guy I bet! Kinda fucked up, but those rural areas of the nation count for alot of the US.

I think there's a black woman running for the democratic ticket in 2004.

 

[nine]

1) "Ethnic" club membership is not based on ethnicity. The purpose of these clubs, aside from being social gatherings, is to promote awareness of the culture.

2) What awareness does a "white" student group need to promote. What are "white" values? What is it about "white" culture that it needs a dedicated student group?

2a) This IS a white society. Everywhere around us is white society. The only reason that its not obvious is that folks, unless they've been on the other side, can't see it. WTF would be the purpose of a "white" club?

2b) I assert that any club that is not an ethnic club, by default, is a "white" club. There's no reason or purpose to have a "white" club...


FWIW non-(insert ethnic group) folk joining BSU (Black Student Union) or CSA (Chinese Student Association) is not unusual.

 

[nine]

huh.... I always wondered why there was no White club in high school...

1) Define White.
2) Define the purpose of a White club.

 

[nine]

Excellent point, D.
What bothers me about this isn't this wonder bread boy's attitude about his monetary disadvantage, but his blatant lie. He wants to donate a $2K scolarship, but wants to raise $50K by the end of the year... and pocket the rest? Now that's awfully white of him!

Scholarship seed money in excess of the scholarship grant amount is neccessary to sustain the scholarship. Typically, a scholarship fund is worth a LOT more than what is doled out, so that it can reload (via interest or investment income) so that it can be self-sustaining.

And Everett, I find your comment about "if you're not qualified for a position, you shouldn't be entitled to it" coming right after your comment about the US Presidency absolutely hilarious! And yes, I voted for "Bush the sequel"

And um,yeah: Honkies are already a minority in the Bay Area.

Advocates of AA submit that equal or better qualifications DO NOT gaurantee an equal or better opportunity to landing a position. Consider a few of "good ol' boy networks":

- Financial institutions (banks, brokerages, etc...)
- Tobacco
- Alcohol
- Auto

To say that, "it's not what you know, but who you know" and also the "corporate face" do not come into play in hiring practices is a bit naive--espeically for upper management positions.

 

[Nahullo]

Can anyone give me an example of an unqualified minority receiving a job or admittance to a school? The goal of the AA process is to ensure a person is not denied a position or admittance because of his/her ethnic background. This idea that unqualified people are taking jobs and educations away from qualified people is crap. Its like the bussing issue in Mass in the 1970s. The fact that people were putting their kids on busses was not the issue – it was ‘integration’ that caused the fighting in the streets. The people shouting “ban the busses, ban the busses” did not want to say “keep the black kids away, keep the black kids away”.

And as Rsrai said – Ivy League (and the more prestigious State schools) have had the Grandfather Admissions Clause for decades. Just like the Grandfather Clause of the 1800 (any man could vote, provided your Grandfather voted before 1867) was used to promote a very specific minority – Alumni. Yes, the U of Mich uses a points system to determine who is admitted. The system awards points to minorities for admissions purposes – just as it awards points to the children of alumni, MI residents, men in nursing, and the socioeconomically disadvantaged.

No one, as far as I can tell, is suggesting one person should be given an unfair advantage because of his/her birth. But society has to accept the fact that institutional racism exists and it affects the minority in this country. I do think the UNCF and the NAACP will be irrelevant – someday. Both those institutions (and any other which exist to level the playing field) will become obsolete when a person is measured by word, deed, and character rather than skin, religion, and or sex.

 

[nine]

I know of Asian students that had 4.0+ GPA's, had high SAT's, and were active in extra-curricular activities that were denied admissions to Cal when AA was still in effect. Yet, underpresented minorities with far less qualifications were allowed in.