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Walking Dead-Season 2

Yeah, it's the zombie apocalypse, who da baby daddy is not what I signed up for here dammit.

Moar helicopters dropping bombs and angry redneck shooting things in the face plz.
 
Dale is pissed that Shane got to hit it!
 
elbacalao said:
I'm over the show. I tried watching some of the latest but it's just too stupid. As mentioned, feeding chickens to the walkers believing them to be just sick, the mother being hesistant to arm her child, shit the fact that they arent all walking around with an arsenal of weapons on themselves is stupid enough... a pregnant woman....these are all just retarded, stupid story plots. As if life in a Zombie apocalypse wouldnt be hard enough( or an interesting enough story line in and of itself) . Apparently I'm not alone, the ratings for the show are tanking weekly. When does Mad Men start again?!?
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This is the problem with lowbrow material and highfalutin filmmakers: If you love The Seventh Seal and Manhattan, it might be hard to show heads exploding, panic and fear constantly, and some good-ole fashion zombie hunting.

I've seen it with The Road To Perdition and Branagh's Frankenstein.
 
meh, they're making a point of Herschel's religiousity. he's a man of faith and a doctor. he really does think there's a cure for the zombie disease and he loves his family, even the dead ones. it IS a bit dramatic, but at the same time, it makes sense to me. plus it creates drama for the story arc. i guarantee you, a realistic and logical presentation of a post zombie apocalypse would be at the same time both boring and horrific. people huddled together crying, endless "what should we do now?" discussions, thugs raping women, "stronger" people taking advantage of "weaker" people. The Road, basically, which was a great movie but would probably be a terrible TV series.

Lori doesn't want to keep the kid, but she KNOWS she's gotta let Rick in on it. AND she knows he's gonna wanna keep it. because HE is also a man of faith (a different kind of faith, but still, faith). and you know what? if the human race is gonna survive, people gotta have babies. is it a good time to be pregnant? fuck no! does it put the others at risk? not yet, but yes, it will. this is a story of a small band of survivors after the zombie apocalypse. if everyone decides not to have babies, and it doesn't seem like there are many kids left, what's the point of surviving? maybe it doesn't really make sense, but it creates a story arc that, were it missing, would make the show far less engaging. if Rick didn't have faith in a better world, why would he lead these survivors around? if there was no social glue holding these people together for some reason, there wouldn't be a show. the biker guy gunning his chopper around the American South blasting Zombies would be a fucking great hour of tv, but it wouldn't be a show.

no matter what, this IS tv drama. i think those two plot points are good and serve the story in the long run. but, i do have other issues. i don't like the actors playing Lori and the blonde chick (Anne?). a combination of their acting and their characters relentlessly stupid motivations turns me off to them A LOT. i kinda like what they're doing with Glen (it's especially good to see a positive portrayal of an Asian American on a major TV show BANGING A WHITE CHICK! BOO-YA!), i think the farm girl was right that they take advantage of him, but i don't think he's a "leader" like she said. he's still real young and unsure of himself (how old is he supposed to be? looks in his early twenties so TV-wise that means he's 16 right? :rofl). and like Dale said, "has no guile in him." and yeah, why the fuck does it seem like Herschel has two more family members every episode?

i'll probably keep watching the show. but i gotta agree, with its current pacing and the direction it's headed, it could lose me.
 
Re-populating the world is all very well and good, but it should wait until the walker problem is at least somewhat under control-- or, if nothing else, you gotta have a stable, defensible long-term settlement. I guess that's what she thinks the farm is, which is an unfortunate assumption.
 
and the Woodsman's Pal makes an appearance :)

And his mom won't let him keep one?

No wonder she doesn't want another kid. she can't adjust to the reality of the new world and raise the one she has properly.

I vote her off and keep the baby around. At least it's ineffectiveness will be temporary.
 
Finally, an episode that left me wanting more.


I knew Sophia was going to come walking out of there
 
can walkers live without eating ?
 
Cali said:
Finally, an episode that left me wanting more.

I knew Sophia was going to come walking out of there
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I should have known Sophia was inside. Hershel is a POS for lying.

But I especially like that it was Shane that opened the barn. I hate it when movies have some twist-of-fate, the village idiot, or the obvious-to-the-audience greedy/bad guy create the final conflict.

I hate Shane, but he is a very good character. He has clear motives and his actions follow logically.

He still wants to be part of the community in a positive sense and he feels he is the only one willing to do what it takes to survive.

He has been advocating leaving without Sophia, holding onto their guns, and killing the barn walkers. He was right.

Really what makes this a great episode is how it all happens in one 5 minute scene.
 
Cali said:
Finally, an episode that left me wanting more.
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Yes, good description. That was a nicely entertaining episode that moved along at a good pace.

Hey it's only 3 months til the next new episode in February. :teeth

I had kinda forgotten about Sophia, thought that plotline was over. Til it came stumbling out the barn!
 
Awesome episode tonight! I've got blue balls waiting until februray for new stuff! :laughing

RE: walkers eating, I'd suspect that a zombie virus would have to feed in order to maintain the host. And by feeding also spreading itself.

Unless you go with the classical zombie mythos with the dead rising from their graves and such.
 
the family has been feeding the walkers- threw them chickens, remember?

Herschel kept saying he wanted them gone, knew they were out looking for the kid- so why didnt he just say "she's dead, we saw her shuffle off in town with some of the sick ones" and the young farm kid who went out and helped them look? um, WTH was that all about? he's been in the barn, heck he was probably the one to bring her in so...why would he volunteer to go look?

I hate gaping plot holes.
 
just bc they are animated does not mean they are alive.

I can pick up a puppet and make it move. so maybe walking dead are just meat puppets being animated by say- a parasite? maybe something as small as a colony of bacteria that feed off and stimulate electrical impulses in the brain. the parasite kills the host, but uses the corpse to spread.

like Shame was trying to show Herschel- you can put a bullet right through major organs and they just keep coming. you can't put them down until you shoot them through the head.
 
It's good writing, it keeps me on my seat, but I want to read ahead because I can't stand commercials or having to wait till Feb.

I think the part about seeing new Herschel family members just keeps with the plot. The group is on the outside...there was no formal introduction or line up "here is my whole family" because it's there to keep "distance" between the two.

But I know what you are saying...
You come back from commercial break and there is another woman on the porch? who is that? and the kid comes in "it's happened again" like they always catch their zombies in the silt ponds and then they go out and it's been hours since they were supposed to go look for Sophia?
Shane comes back and starts handing out weapons you know some shit is going down!

Herschel is an honest man but with major protections or castle walls around things he is just not ready to deal with. He is a farmer and was already set back from society and on the outskirts, now he's really on the outskirts and hasn't lived it like the group has been. He's sitting eating lunch reading a book!

Shane breaks down those castle walls in one fell swoop and in doing so we get a bonus closure to the Sophia search. Looked like she had a bite on her shoulder...and of course it's Rick's fault so he is the one to end it for her. So sad but such a great climax! She was in the barn the entire time!

Shane is Logical and makes the most sense to me.
You are dead already, times have changed. It's survival of the fittest and kill or be eaten. All things that Dale said are true...Shane was meant for this world.
 
Idontdotrix said:
the family has been feeding the walkers- threw them chickens, remember?

Herschel kept saying he wanted them gone, knew they were out looking for the kid- so why didnt he just say "she's dead, we saw her shuffle off in town with some of the sick ones" and the young farm kid who went out and helped them look? um, WTH was that all about? he's been in the barn, heck he was probably the one to bring her in so...why would he volunteer to go look?

I hate gaping plot holes.
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The kid didn't necessarily have to know. It might have been his first zombie wrangling expedition. Remember, they had another guy before. It looks like Herschel was keeping the fact that sophia was in the barn from them in order to spare them the pain of finding her a walker, and leading them on in hopes they'd give up and leave.
 
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