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Warriors 16-17 Season

Johndicezx9 said:
Please don't start a thread on the Rockets, it'll die a faster death than Cavs thread. :laughing
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Thread dies, but the 'ship is eternal!

There's some seriously good competition in the West this year. GSW certainly isn't going to have an easy route to the finals.
 
Kestrel said:
Thread dies, but the 'ship is eternal!

There's some seriously good competition in the West this year. GSW certainly isn't going to have an easy route to the finals.
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Didn't have one the previous 2 years, either... certainly not as easy as the Cavs have had it in the lEast.

Cavs are coming to play Western teams, I'll be curious to see how they do.
 
Johndicezx9 said:
Didn't have one the previous 2 years, either... certainly not as easy as the Cavs have had it in the lEast.

Cavs are coming to play Western teams, I'll be curious to see how they do.
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Yea, I don't know man. There have been some serious superstar stacked teams in the past (ie: first year Miami Heat) that have lost in the finals... Given how Houston and OKC are playing, you'd be silly to rule any of those teams out for taking it all.

Cavs beat the best team (record) of all time (at home), so I certainly wouldn't call their journey... 'easy'. It wasn't. Game 7, you know? Both teams were giving it all they had, and we saw some pretty sick basketball all around.

I think it'll be a good year for basketball. I was worried about the negative impact of the concentration of talent in the league, but it looks like that might not be a problem.

That said, one man teams will certainly find it hard to go the distance, as we saw from GSW 'ship #1 vs CLE. LBJ held admirably while he could, but fatigue won out in the end, and GSW took it.
 
Kestrel said:
Yea, I don't know man. There have been some serious superstar stacked teams in the past (ie: first year Miami Heat) that have lost in the finals... Given how Houston and OKC are playing, you'd be silly to rule any of those teams out for taking it all.
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When the Spurs and Cavs are in the Finals this year, we'll wonder how you mentioned Houston before them. :party
 
Bowling4Bikes said:
I agree the defense isn't what it was.

but the +12.6 point differential is pretty impressive. No other team is even close. (Rockets at +7.9 is second).
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I just think that defense is changeable. Warriors are most vulnerable, including last year, to fast young teams who can run with them. Though they lost to the Cavs, who seem more traditional and muscular, their big challenges in regular season were these kinds of teams.

I have seen the Warriors just smother teams this year and I tend to think that the last game was atypical.

It's complete armchair stuff, but the thing I see is this: if they are gonna make all those three attempts, I think they should be a bit closer to the rim for all the invariable misses. They seem habituated to assume its goin in and start back to other court too soon.
 
maybe a better way to put it:

Team Points For Pts Against Diff
15-16 Ws 114.9 104.1 10.8
16-17 Ws 117.3 104.7 12.6

as the numbers show, they're now giving up a little more than a half a point per game. But also they are scoring a whopping ~2.5 ppg more.

so, I guess I'm saying that I'm still not concerned. :shrug
 
Bay Arean said:
I just think that defense is changeable. Warriors are most vulnerable, including last year, to fast young teams who can run with them. Though they lost to the Cavs, who seem more traditional and muscular, their big challenges in regular season were these kinds of teams.
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I'm still trying to think about why that happened... Golden State was up, and then it all turned around. There was the deliberate strategy of ignoring everyone but Klay and Steph for a few games - which worked - but what else was it? If you look at Steph's shooting stats, he was much more tightly contested / defended than in the regular season, and his shooting greatly suffered as a result.

I don't know if I'd called Cleveland 'big and muscular' in a "Shaq" sort of way.. Lebron and Love and the biggest players, but James even in his older years isn't what I'd call slow, you know? Irving is a fast & excellent ball handler, and a lot of the rest of the team is quite lean, too.

I'd love to see some more concrete data if anyone has any.
 
Kestrel said:
I'm still trying to think about why that happened... Golden State was up, and then it all turned around. There was the deliberate strategy of ignoring everyone but Klay and Steph for a few games - which worked - but what else was it? If you look at Steph's shooting stats, he was much more tightly contested / defended than in the regular season, and his shooting greatly suffered as a result.

I don't know if I'd called Cleveland 'big and muscular' in a "Shaq" sort of way.. Lebron and Love and the biggest players, but James even in his older years isn't what I'd call slow, you know? Irving is a fast & excellent ball handler, and a lot of the rest of the team is quite lean, too.

I'd love to see some more concrete data if anyone has any.
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there's something that comes to mind, but it's not anything you'd want to hear (again)...

anyways, what is also curious this year is that Portland is 15-21. I thought for sure they'd be an elite team this year. I guess you just never know.
 
Damian Lillard is likely out tonight. Not gonna be an entertaining game to watch then.
 
I was entertained. I got a Cavs loss and a Warriors win for my BARFday!!
 
Bubba_s said:
I was entertained. I got a Cavs loss and a Warriors win for my BARFday!!
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Yea, you can't win 'em all....

.. but you can win some of them.

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It's weird - Cavs seem to lose a lot when they play against Wade et al, be it the Heat or (more recently) the Bulls.
 
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