Kestrel
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Yea, I'm not going to bite on that. 
Californian arrogance knows no bounds.
Good games, though. See you all next year.
Californian arrogance knows no bounds. Good games, though. See you all next year.
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Warriors 16-17 Season
- Thread starter Bay Arean
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Yea, I'm not going to bite on that.
Good games, though. See you all next year.
Guys, ignore the shots at the Warriors and now towards California in general.
Here are some things for the Cavs to look forward to for 17-18.
Love for Carmelo
DWade to Cavs
Iguodala to Cavs (!!!)
upgrade at backup point guard
Bay Arean
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Yea, I'm not going to bite on that.
Good games, though. See you all next year.
Right. Californian arrogance. Steph is from NC. Durant from Maryland. Draymond from Michigan. Not sure about Brown, Adams, but Kerr is from Socal, admittedly.
Right. Denial ain't just a river. Lue got outcoached over and over again. If that's arrogance, well fine then. The previous guy got fired for getting smacked by the Dubs because King James said so. he knows better than everybody and his rings prove it. And his back tattoo that says "Chosen One." No arrogance there. Great zinger.
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Johndicezx9
Rolls with it...
Kestrel
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None of that is going to happen.
Dude, I grew up in Davidson. I was a Curry fan long before any of you even knew who he was. From a temporal perspective, I'm probably the OG Steph Curry fan on all of BARF. I was there cheering the Davidson bus onward as they left to play (and beat) Wisconsin, in what was one of the greatest upsets in recently college basketball history. Where were you? You've got nothing
Your post is chock-full of California 'we're just better, smarter' than everyone else thing being solely responsible for some fantastic string of victories. You're lucky as shit right now that your current crop of players panned out in the way that they did. Be fortunate! It's not *just* some all knowing great amazing fortune telling ability of your management - there's so much luck involved when it comes to pro sports. If Curry's trashed ankles somehow end his career years ago... or there's some other fluke injury that dramatically reduced his ability to play... then where are you?
All I'm saying is drop the smug bullshit. In some ways CA is great, but in a lot ways... it isn't.
Johndicezx9
Rolls with it...
Johndicezx9
Rolls with it...
Bay Arean
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None of that is going to happen.
Dude, I grew up in Davidson. I was a Curry fan long before any of you even knew who he was. From a temporal perspective, I'm probably the OG Steph Curry fan on all of BARF. I was there cheering the Davidson bus onward as they left to play (and beat) Wisconsin, in what was one of the greatest upsets in recently college basketball history. Where were you? You've got nothing
Your post is chock-full of California 'we're just better, smarter' than everyone else thing being solely responsible for some fantastic string of victories. You're lucky as shit right now that your current crop of players panned out in the way that they did. Be fortunate! It's not *just* some all knowing great amazing fortune telling ability of your management - there's so much luck involved when it comes to pro sports. If Curry's trashed ankles somehow end his career years ago... or there's some other fluke injury that dramatically reduced his ability to play... then where are you?
All I'm saying is drop the smug bullshit. In some ways CA is great, but in a lot ways... it isn't.
It is not smug to say that the Warriors have built a great organization, hired really good people, emphasized good values all along. The team management, players fans have VERY little to do with our region per se. Except the loyalty of the fans themselves, which is a wonderful thing but not because of innate regional superiority.
I have said over and over again (if you could get out of your own perspective enough to notice) that I watch every game, regular season or not because I don't know how long it will last. I honor it. It is not a reflection of me and my California superiority whatsoever.
And I have pointed out, here, on numerous occasions that we have the diametric opposite right down in Santa Clara, so much for Calif arrogance. The Warriors org are the starkest contrast to the York-Baalke horror show we have all endured. Funny that York-di Bartolos are from Ohio, however.
You can't objectively argue that the Warriors org isn't great OF LATE because you got nothing so you resort to regional insult. I am not smug, I am correct about this current situation. And the Cavs are the second best team in the country, not because of Ohio, though I guess its the birthplace of its greatest star player.
I ain't knockin' Cleveland, Ohio, nothing. I am celebrating what we have NOW and I have no idea if it will last, though it seems probable.
You are funny when butthurt. Co-mingling regional animosity with the luck of a CURRENTLY great sports franchise, after years of disappointment.
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Kestrel
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Dude, we won last year. Cleveland has a championship in my lifetime! I can never be butt hurt ever again 
Bay Arean
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Dude, we won last year. Cleveland has a championship in my lifetime! I can never be butt hurt ever again
Stay confusing, my friend.
Kestrel
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That's not ouch, man.
Anyone with half a brain can take any set of statistics and comb over them to draw any conclusion they want.
Who did he play with? How well was he playing? Were the teammates not performing? Who was he up against? How many playoff games has he actually made it to, compared to the competition? How far in the playoffs did he go on average? How many games were played in the playoffs versus how many seasons did a given player play? And so on...
Science is what I do for a living, man. Going to need more data before I'll accept any conclusion.
Bay Arean
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It's so funny. Those sportscaster throw stats all over in their broadcasts. It seems like this Warriors team has broken almost every record in NBA history in the last two years. Just about.
But we need more data to really know if they are good. And who the real killer was that OJ is lookin' for.
In the meantime, Doctor, you have stated that Californian arrogance has no bounds. I presume you have the data to back up that broad brush contention???
So funny.
It's been a great year. Not killin the thread, but I started it this year and it's been a blast. Glad to have the monkey off our back of last year's loss.
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Dubbington
Slamdunk Champion
Warrior's haters and Cavs apologist are simply having a tough time grasping how quickly the Warriors went from the gutter to the mountain top.
Curry's been in the league 8 seasons I think and 3 have them resulted in finals appearances and 2 rings. The season before to the Spurs showed promise. While he was racking up 3s and rehabing his ankles, no one other than Warrior fans were watching. Then Mark Jackson turned them into a defensive machine with the help of Larry Riley, Bob Myers and new owners.
This team is viewed as spoiled and lucky so the fruits of their labor go unrecognized and unappreciated. When you look into the players they drafted, developed, and how they cleverly worked around the salary cap, it's impressive. Coaching is also massive. Kerr and his staff embody team basketball, movement, look for the better shot not the good shot.
The bench had 30+ points last night where the Cavs bench had 5 pts I believe.
This proves how impressive the Warriors are as a whole, as a team. It also proves how impressive Lebron is to will his team and teams before. Six straight finals is insane.
The next few years will show how truly transcendent the Warriors team is. Starting 4 all under 30. The Spurs get lauded as the well oiled machine and I'm struggling to figure out why the Warriros dont now. Why they don't get the validation is beyond me. They have been the best team in all of Team sports the past 3 years.
Lebron's teams haven't been this good, he's just such a good player and the east so terrible that it's masked the deficiencies.
Celtics are coming and Lebron is getting older. Fans are gonna have to accept and get used to the Warriors being around competitively for the next 3-5 years.
Curry's been in the league 8 seasons I think and 3 have them resulted in finals appearances and 2 rings. The season before to the Spurs showed promise. While he was racking up 3s and rehabing his ankles, no one other than Warrior fans were watching. Then Mark Jackson turned them into a defensive machine with the help of Larry Riley, Bob Myers and new owners.
This team is viewed as spoiled and lucky so the fruits of their labor go unrecognized and unappreciated. When you look into the players they drafted, developed, and how they cleverly worked around the salary cap, it's impressive. Coaching is also massive. Kerr and his staff embody team basketball, movement, look for the better shot not the good shot.
The bench had 30+ points last night where the Cavs bench had 5 pts I believe.
This proves how impressive the Warriors are as a whole, as a team. It also proves how impressive Lebron is to will his team and teams before. Six straight finals is insane.
The next few years will show how truly transcendent the Warriors team is. Starting 4 all under 30. The Spurs get lauded as the well oiled machine and I'm struggling to figure out why the Warriros dont now. Why they don't get the validation is beyond me. They have been the best team in all of Team sports the past 3 years.
Lebron's teams haven't been this good, he's just such a good player and the east so terrible that it's masked the deficiencies.
Celtics are coming and Lebron is getting older. Fans are gonna have to accept and get used to the Warriors being around competitively for the next 3-5 years.
Bay Arean
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Dubs, I think we were just lucky. That's the scientific explanation.
Srsly, the acquisitiions and work-ins of the new players have shown brilliance. Having a head coach with horrible medical conditions but managing to make it to two Finals on assistant coaches is something I will never forget. Hiring the star player, then having him go out with knee injury mid season, , having a shooting slump but still coming out with a winning record during that interval is not just luck.
To say we are just lucky is...probably unscientific. But we ARE lucky that Durant wasn't hurt worse, to be sure.
The fans are lucky. The team and management are skilled and sophisticated no matter what state they were born in. Don't know if they will ever say "Kerr-ball" but I really think they have risen the bar in terms of style of play but its certainly a reflection of Pop so probably not. Others will, and are, adapting to it and it reaches into the colleges and high schools. And of course the various rules changes are complicit in this evolution.
I just hope Steve Kerr can recover enough to actually work and enjoy doing what he is great at doing and with what he has built along with those co-coaches (hard for me to say Assistant, when I think of Brown and Adams especially)..
It seems like anyone truly versed in the game of basketball would understand this accomplishment not discount it as mere luck.
Srsly, the acquisitiions and work-ins of the new players have shown brilliance. Having a head coach with horrible medical conditions but managing to make it to two Finals on assistant coaches is something I will never forget. Hiring the star player, then having him go out with knee injury mid season, , having a shooting slump but still coming out with a winning record during that interval is not just luck.
To say we are just lucky is...probably unscientific. But we ARE lucky that Durant wasn't hurt worse, to be sure.
The fans are lucky. The team and management are skilled and sophisticated no matter what state they were born in. Don't know if they will ever say "Kerr-ball" but I really think they have risen the bar in terms of style of play but its certainly a reflection of Pop so probably not. Others will, and are, adapting to it and it reaches into the colleges and high schools. And of course the various rules changes are complicit in this evolution.
I just hope Steve Kerr can recover enough to actually work and enjoy doing what he is great at doing and with what he has built along with those co-coaches (hard for me to say Assistant, when I think of Brown and Adams especially)..
It seems like anyone truly versed in the game of basketball would understand this accomplishment not discount it as mere luck.
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It is easy to say luck was involved after the championship was won but a lot of hard work and talent was involved.
Like with the trade of Bogut for Monta Ellis. That seemed like a big mistake, sending the best Warrior for an injured center. But the scouting was done with Steph, picking a guy from a small liberal college who had the work ethic to become a superstar.
I also look at Mark Jackson, who couldn't beat the Clippers and had odd personnel issues (remember Brian Scalabrini?). Besides winning it all twice, Kerr's regime has been problem free.
Even the ownership has done a great job. They got a new arena built, which may have convinced KD that the Warriors were the top team in the NBA.
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Bay Arean
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I cant figure out Mark Jackson now. he keeps getting in arguments with van Gundy over nothing. It must be truly weird for him to call these Dubs games.
Some conclusions, like the number of championships won, are easy. You can break it down to justify your feelings but it's very basic. Even a whole brained scientist from fucking Cleveland can admit this. It's about the championships, and LeBeeeeeotch lost another one last nigh!
Johndicezx9
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I'm sure the Cavs would have had more success had LBJ stayed in Cleveland and allowed their front office to build a team around him, but they wouldn't have had the high draft picks that got them someone like Kyrie.