wazzuFreddo
WuTang is 4 the children
Free agency is part of the league. The rest of the front line of the team Whit Green, Thompson, and Curry was grown organically.
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Warriors 16-17 Season
- Thread starter Bay Arean
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Good season W. You achieved the expected and failed in the unexpected.
Things might get shaken up at next contract time but I wouldn't be TOO surprised if Curry gives up SOME cash to chase more rings. His money isn't entirely from salary. He can follow Jordan's footstep and set him self up for retirement with a name and a brand. I googled some numbers for perspective.
According to Forbes retired Jordan made $100m / yr last year while NBA Jordan was paid $94M for his entire 15 yr career.
Things might get shaken up at next contract time but I wouldn't be TOO surprised if Curry gives up SOME cash to chase more rings. His money isn't entirely from salary. He can follow Jordan's footstep and set him self up for retirement with a name and a brand. I googled some numbers for perspective.
According to Forbes retired Jordan made $100m / yr last year while NBA Jordan was paid $94M for his entire 15 yr career.
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Johndicezx9
Rolls with it...
Yay!
Johndicezx9
Rolls with it...
I have to: He broke Kyle Korvers ankle and tore Al Horfords knee with dirty plays.
But, in the here and now, yay warriors!
Agent Orange
The b0y ninja
Man I bet all the OKC fans must be super salty right now.
Kestrel
Active member
Given how (amazing) they both played this year, I think OKC had a chance in 2017 if Durant stayed. We'll never know.
wazzuFreddo
WuTang is 4 the children
Sharky
Well-known member
KD. Wow, what a performance.
In all fairness. Both teams played quite well. The Cavs were class, 2nd class this year.
In all fairness. Both teams played quite well. The Cavs were class, 2nd class this year.
Kestrel
Active member
Good
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http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/06/kob...s-draft-trade-valde-divac-seattle-supersonics
Cool article, the summary being these paragraphs...
Interesting how it all played out, huh? Blame Charlotte! (God knows I do.)
Dubbington
Slamdunk Champion
Great coaching by Kerr. Lot of guts playing McCaw big minutes. He was good on defense.
David West over Javale too. Those adjustments were great.
Be interesting what the Cavs can do roster wise to compete. Deron Williams likely gone. Kyle Korver, I can see him staying. They need a 3rd option that can play both sides of the game.
David West over Javale too. Those adjustments were great.
Be interesting what the Cavs can do roster wise to compete. Deron Williams likely gone. Kyle Korver, I can see him staying. They need a 3rd option that can play both sides of the game.
Agent Orange
The b0y ninja
Thursday, 10 AM, Oakland
Johndicezx9
Rolls with it...
Yeah we do, they have terrible management. They had harden, let him go. They had Reggie Jackson (of the pistons, not the A's), Serge Ibaka, and KD. They had a great coach, now with the wizards, all gone.
They never had a chance.
Bay Arean
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Except for the first one they won without him
I'll go ahead and finish this argument:
- but kevin love and kyrie were injured in 2015
- draymond was suspended, bogut injured, (steph coming off injury?) in 2016
It's not fair to diminish the cavs winning last year or the warriors the year before.
You play who is in front of you and that's all.
Then one could counter they wouldn't have even been there if they had kept Bennett and Wiggins and not traded for Kevin Love...
Kestrel
Active member
Alright - I've slept it off. Yea it sucks for us, but as was pointed out, the Cavs won in 2016 in what was the greatest NBA finals comeback against the greatest regular season record of all time. It was the first championship in Cleveland since 1964. Then the Indians had an amazing season in an amazing world series and almost beat the Cubs. Two teams who had gone the longest in the MLB without a championship - 1908, and 1948 - facing off in the world series... and then game seven, extra innings! What a series. Cleveland sports has had a great run in the last few years, so it's kind of ridiculous to be all crazy upset over it. So I won't.
So this year is a little sad, but man... we've still had a good run. And we get to watch one of the best players to ever play the game play on *our* team. You can't forget that, because it's a special opportunity to have.
I previously pointed out that without Durant, GSW wouldn't have won this year. Is that true? I thought about it some more this morning, and I don't know. Klay hasn't been scoring all that well lately, but perhaps he just has slid into a different role, similar to how Kevin Love now plays. Different team dynamics and all. In my mind, Durant was the MVP of the series. I couldn't believe some of the baskets he was making.
So - good show. Cavs didn't have it this year. Signs of life at times, but for whatever reason, it just wasn't there. We'll see how next year goes.
Props to GSW for voting to not visit the White House.
So this year is a little sad, but man... we've still had a good run. And we get to watch one of the best players to ever play the game play on *our* team. You can't forget that, because it's a special opportunity to have.
I previously pointed out that without Durant, GSW wouldn't have won this year. Is that true? I thought about it some more this morning, and I don't know. Klay hasn't been scoring all that well lately, but perhaps he just has slid into a different role, similar to how Kevin Love now plays. Different team dynamics and all. In my mind, Durant was the MVP of the series. I couldn't believe some of the baskets he was making.
So - good show. Cavs didn't have it this year. Signs of life at times, but for whatever reason, it just wasn't there. We'll see how next year goes.
Props to GSW for voting to not visit the White House.
Bay Arean
Well-known member
You can't really work out the hypothetical because the choice of Durant meant bench re-populating. Without acquiring Durant, that wouldn't have happened though they still would have released Barnes.
Even though last year's bench had beloved characters, I think this year's bench has ultimately turned out better. I think McGee and West gave the Warriors TWO separate "looks" that they did not have, even with Bogut last year.
I wish the tv hosts had given those guys a bit more attention last night. I think that scrum with West was actually the turning point of the game because it ultimately loosened up the Dubs, releasing the tension of the obvious plan by the Cavs to just keep roughin up the Dubs, slow down the game, mess with minds and composure, because the Dubs ARE vulnerable to that because often their shooting negates it.
The Cavs play like bullies but that's "okay" because that's reflective of a lot of the league's history. There was just a momentary glimpse of LeBron pushing then elbowing Steph out of the way that symbolizes the two teams. Patience, dexterity, speed, skill versus brute force and shooting skill. Letting LeBron have his layups near the end of the game illustrated that you can let Mr Heroball play heroball for minutes and minutes and they will still lose the game. The Dubs just figured it wasn't worth fouling, slowing the game so they let him get his layups so he'd look heroic. Big deal. His long shot 3 pointers impressed me much more, that guy is a phenomenal athlete. But as long as the model is let the big limo travel his way in for a 2 pointer, they are beatable. Watching Steph outwit the big man and get a layup relates more to the common man who wasn't born with freakish physiognomy. Of course, Steph will slow down with age whereas the big man model depends on inevitable fouling. I realize why some will never give Steph his due for this reason.
The Cavs almost did it, but the Dubs have a better plan and it isn't just about money. They are the most complex, well-trained team in the league, though the Spurs are right there.
Kerr turned the rotation upside down last night and the team is so disciplined that it worked. McGee and Clarke didn;t even play, I don't think. That was baffling, in a way, but Kerr had a plan. And that's I love about this organization.
The Cavs came as close to anyone of "figuring out" the Warriors, but I just think they always have another card up their sleeve and that's how they won last night.
PS. Complaining about Zaza when you have a team with Shumpert is kind of amusing. Shumpert is always in trouble. That said, I don't know Zaza's contract but if he is negotiable, I wouldn't be surprised to see him go in the off-season. He's a bit too clunky for this team, I think ultimately. Jeezus, he knocked out his own man (Durant) for that matter proving it isn't necessarily malicious whatsoever. West and McGee kind of proved that there is another way to do it. Now that they both have rings, I don't know if they will go for more money elsewhere or be offered more but I treasure their contribution. A young version of either is what I think the Dubs will continue to seek.
Even though last year's bench had beloved characters, I think this year's bench has ultimately turned out better. I think McGee and West gave the Warriors TWO separate "looks" that they did not have, even with Bogut last year.
I wish the tv hosts had given those guys a bit more attention last night. I think that scrum with West was actually the turning point of the game because it ultimately loosened up the Dubs, releasing the tension of the obvious plan by the Cavs to just keep roughin up the Dubs, slow down the game, mess with minds and composure, because the Dubs ARE vulnerable to that because often their shooting negates it.
The Cavs play like bullies but that's "okay" because that's reflective of a lot of the league's history. There was just a momentary glimpse of LeBron pushing then elbowing Steph out of the way that symbolizes the two teams. Patience, dexterity, speed, skill versus brute force and shooting skill. Letting LeBron have his layups near the end of the game illustrated that you can let Mr Heroball play heroball for minutes and minutes and they will still lose the game. The Dubs just figured it wasn't worth fouling, slowing the game so they let him get his layups so he'd look heroic. Big deal. His long shot 3 pointers impressed me much more, that guy is a phenomenal athlete. But as long as the model is let the big limo travel his way in for a 2 pointer, they are beatable. Watching Steph outwit the big man and get a layup relates more to the common man who wasn't born with freakish physiognomy. Of course, Steph will slow down with age whereas the big man model depends on inevitable fouling. I realize why some will never give Steph his due for this reason.
The Cavs almost did it, but the Dubs have a better plan and it isn't just about money. They are the most complex, well-trained team in the league, though the Spurs are right there.
Kerr turned the rotation upside down last night and the team is so disciplined that it worked. McGee and Clarke didn;t even play, I don't think. That was baffling, in a way, but Kerr had a plan. And that's I love about this organization.
The Cavs came as close to anyone of "figuring out" the Warriors, but I just think they always have another card up their sleeve and that's how they won last night.
PS. Complaining about Zaza when you have a team with Shumpert is kind of amusing. Shumpert is always in trouble. That said, I don't know Zaza's contract but if he is negotiable, I wouldn't be surprised to see him go in the off-season. He's a bit too clunky for this team, I think ultimately. Jeezus, he knocked out his own man (Durant) for that matter proving it isn't necessarily malicious whatsoever. West and McGee kind of proved that there is another way to do it. Now that they both have rings, I don't know if they will go for more money elsewhere or be offered more but I treasure their contribution. A young version of either is what I think the Dubs will continue to seek.
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