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Why do most Starbucks customers use MacBooks?

Reli said:
Matters little to me, since I'm usually close to an outlet, or carry a portable charging pack :dunno

That chart is out of date BTW
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Yes a 2016 chart is out of date in 2016, for your laptop that was introduced in 2015. Pffft.

Your laptop has shitty battery life, well-documented, the joke of the category. Apple, Toshiba, Dell, Asus, Microsoft, HP, Acer....they all have laptops with good battery life.

But not Samsung. They can't figure it out.
 
Zerox said:
Yes a 2016 chart is out of date in 2016, for your laptop that was introduced in 2015. Pffft.

Your laptop has shitty battery life, well-documented, the joke of the category. Apple, Toshiba, Dell, Asus, Microsoft, HP, Acer....they all have laptops with good battery life.

But not Samsung. They can't figure it out.
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Chart data is total opinion. Like "innovation".....Why does Apple score highly there? What has Apple innovated in the last year? What new features have they added? Hell they don't even have a touchscreen.

Oh, and "software".....So Apple gets a higher score just because those clowns prefer iOS?

BTW, do those "testers" make sure that each laptop is set on the same brightness level when they do the battery run-down tests? Do they measure the nits (brightness) and equalize across all laptops tested? Doubt it. And that matters, because the Samsung has THE brightest screen available.
 
KittenMeat said:
it's not the same since narcissistic-personality-disorder-Jobs left.
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ironic thing is he didn't give a shit what anyone else thought. if i had no other reason to buy an apple product - it would be to further the experiment of a bunch of design geeks out to prove that it was them, not him that drove the engine. deft hand at the helm? yes. but in reality, it's the peeps manning the oars that forge the juggernaut. and those dudes are still toiling away as they always have been.
 
littlebeast said:
ironic thing is he didn't give a shit what anyone else thought. if i had no other reason to buy an apple product - it would be to further the experiment of a bunch of design geeks out to prove that it was them, not him that drove the engine. deft hand at the helm? yes. but in reality, it's the peeps manning the oars that forge the juggernaut. and those dudes are still toiling away as they always have been.
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that's the thing though, they haven't been pushing the envelope much.

a lot of their "new" features they debut have been already on android for quite a while. They only FINALLY allowed "night-shift" after banning FLUX from the app store (it's a big deal for someone that already has a circadian disorder, me, and takes meds for it)

The closed system has its advantages, but after playing with the new android stuff I'm finally really truly impressed.

I haven't been won over by windows yet, but I haven't played with their newest version either. The new ios versions aren't that reliable either, I have crashes using basic apps all the time, and I can't use any adblocker, which makes browsing some automotive and moto sites intolerable.


all that and my family just told me they got me an apple watch for my birthday. :laughing
I told them before they got me it that I don't even know what I'd do with it. Much rather have a Garmin Fenix or something GPS for running (suunto) that works without draining phone battery.


I'm down to be swayed, but the rest of the industry is starting to catch up in terms of UX. It's not solely apple's domain anymore. Everyone has a UX department, now.
 
Reli said:
Personally, HP has led the way in design these last couple years. That's right, the once-boring HP.
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dated the VP of Compaq/HP's daughter. won't buy their PCs. Got a free one out of that, though :rofl:

she's a marina girl now. :twofinger
 
KittenMeat said:
that's the thing though, they haven't been pushing the envelope much.

a lot of their "new" features they debut have been already on android for quite a while. They only FINALLY allowed "night-shift" after banning FLUX from the app store (it's a big deal for someone that already has a circadian disorder, me, and takes meds for it)

The closed system has its advantages, but after playing with the new android stuff I'm finally really truly impressed.

I haven't been won over by windows yet, but I haven't played with their newest version either. The new ios versions aren't that reliable either, I have crashes using basic apps all the time, and I can't use any adblocker, which makes browsing some automotive and moto sites intolerable.


all that and my family just told me they got me an apple watch for my birthday. :laughing
I told them before they got me it that I don't even know what I'd do with it. Much rather have a Garmin Fenix or something GPS for running (suunto) that works without draining phone battery.


I'm down to be swayed, but the rest of the industry is starting to catch up in terms of UX. It's not solely apple's domain anymore. Everyone has a UX department, now.
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be all that as it may, my point was that i am interested in them as a continuing experiment. because that's how i perceive them. not so much as a company, but as a petri dish of survival against historical and ongoing odds. an army of well meaning people. and the desire to thrive under challenging circumstances is something i can absolutely relate to.
 
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GiorgioFurioso said:
No disagreement there. But computing power unto itself is only a small part of what makes up the user experience. As someone who spends a *lot* of time on computers, I gladly pay a premium price for a premium user experience. It does actually translate in to higher productivity, which rapidly makes up for the higher initial cost.
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Pretty much all of what George is saying.

I've used both and especially since I'm doing UNIX based development I find the MacBook a far better choice. I run VMWare on it and juggle multiple OS's including Windows. I've had multiple high end Windows laptops in the past and the quality isn't even close.
 
So I'm pounding the keys on my Mac Pro, sitting on a bench in front of the Elk Meadows RV park in Trout Lake Wa. No coffee, diesels and trailers, roll up in the gravel lot. Mostly cell phones and tablets here in the "library", only one other mac I've seen here, a woman that lives in an airstream too.

Must be an alloy aluminum thing, , ,
 
Yep that alloy aluminum thing...

Which HP successfully copied 2 years ago, with the X360.

And now this year they introduced the Spectre, the world's thinnest. :party

:twofinger

I'm not saying HP is better quality (it isn't), I'm just saying that from a physical design standpoint, Apple is no longer unique.
 
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}Dragon{ said:
Dude you need to change your bong water :p
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You're not my real dad, you're just married to my mom!

}Dragon{ said:
Apple's QA standards on HW alone has gone down hill in the last few years.
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I guess I should try a newer machine. After my 2007 MBP died just a few weeks ago, I've been on a 2012 MBP I got from a friend. 4 years old and still going awesome.

}Dragon{ said:
My manager switched from a PC to Mac. 1 month old and the motherboard had to be replaced. (+ a few other users with similar premature HW failures).
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I've found Apple warranty support to be quite good...much better than, for example, Dell. :mad

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I've actually considered buying an OSX box (or run one as a VM that I can access remotely via my iPad Pro) just so that I'm more comfy supporting OSX.
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If you're handy with hardware, consider putting together a Hackintosh box: http://www.hackintosh.com/

}Dragon{ said:
In my experience, The Apple is a PIA, when dealing with standard business applications, especially with the last release.
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Really? Like how? I use those standard business apps every day, no issues. :dunno

}Dragon{ said:
For the record- I don't hate Apple and I don't like MS. :p (and I've never found a Linux distro that I liked.)
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Same here. My desktop is Windows 10. I also run a CentOS server out of my apartment. And don't even get me started on what I'm doing with AWS. ;)
 
Reli said:
Have you seen the latest HP's and Samsungs? Their build quality is just as good, if not better.

Hell, MacBooks don't even have a touchscreen. WTF? Sorry but that's a non-starter for me.
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I'll check those out, but I'm skeptical. I'm also skeptical that anyone has a trackpad remotely as good as Apple's.

Regarding a touch screen, it *might* be kind of nice when I'm playing around with audio recording software (but who knows, the touch resolution may well not be sufficient), but really, I don't want fingerprints all over my display.
 
The HP X360's trackpad is VERY good. Just the right balance between friction and glide. A bit too big for my preference, though.

The Samsung's trackpad is almost as good, but doesn't have enough friction. It's kind of like touching melting ice.

Toshiba trackpads are junk.

Regarding touchscreens, most of them suck because they reflect so much, but the one on my Samsung has anti-glare coating, which combined with its ultra-high brightness makes it great for outdoor use.
 
Wasn't there an old expression in the PC world like "what Intel giveth, Microsoft taketh!"?

I like hps, had much better luck with them than I have with dell and my way old gateway.
 
My coworkers ( non tech ) all uses Mac. I ( the office techie ) use a PC so I don't have to answer their question about how to do stuff on their 'super use friendly' wack books. :D

I recognize that there is a fairly wide adoption rate on Mac among developers not just because its 'the best' or 'easiest' or whatever label. Its because most tech tutorial videos are produced on Macs for Macs. So if you're trying to just quickly follow a tutorial to learn a new dev skill, its 5x easier to follow it if you also have a Mac. Maybe this is because the artsy fartsy folks who produces creative contents ( like videos ) tend to favor Macs ?
 
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Reli said:
The HP X360's trackpad is VERY good. Just the right balance between friction and glide. A bit too big for my preference, though.

The Samsung's trackpad is almost as good, but doesn't have enough friction. It's kind of like touching melting ice.

Toshiba trackpads are junk.

Regarding touchscreens, most of them suck because they reflect so much, but the one on my Samsung has anti-glare coating, which combined with its ultra-high brightness makes it great for outdoor use.
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Curious, have you ever used a Mac book?
 
BTW I hate the MacBook track pad significantly. The push button/one button feature basically.

I use a Mac with a mouse so..oh and a Windows laptop with many nice buttons and a track button

As for Starbucks, it's fashion. :p
 
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