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Why only 6 laps???

How many laps would you prefer at Thunderhill & Buttonwillow Raceways?

  • 6

    Votes: 7 17.5%

  • 8

    Votes: 33 82.5%
  • Total voters
    40
ZIM said:
Cause all you Bay Area chumps can't handle more laps!:laughing
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I think they can handle more laps but they would bitch about drive home.
Instead around 4pm races may end around 5pm and they will get home around 9pm instead 8pm. That is way past their bed time :laughing
 
TWF said:
I think they can handle more laps but they would bitch about drive home.
Instead around 4pm races may end around 5pm and they will get home around 9pm instead 8pm. That is way past their bed time :laughing
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Hey, I resemble that. I like to get home by 8 PM so I can go to bed early and get rested for a long nap the next day.
 
dsapsis said:
And I was told you work with numbers for a day job?:twofinger

The marginal difference in duration would not be dependent on the average lap time; rather it would be a function of the slowest rider on the grid. Then there is the additional downtime resulting from any issue that cause downtime (e.g., red flag), which, barring data to show otherwise, is likely proportional to runtime.

Carry On.
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Silly Homebrew Monkey! :twofinger Allow me to clarify: by "average" I meant the average laptime differential for the backmarkers in all 12 classes. If you go to the AFM website and check out the 2009 results from May 24 (Infineon) vs. June 16 (T-hill) you will notice that the backmarkers from all the different AFM classes are about 10 seconds per lap slower at T-hill than Infineon. I didn't build a spreadsheet, I just sort of eyeballed the results to come to that estimate. Since the backmarkers typically dictate the total time of a race (unless they get lapped), I went by their times rather than the fast guys who are often out of their leathers by the time the backmarkers pull into the pits... So the "average" I was referring to was the average laptime differential for all backmarkers in all 12 races, not the average of all AFM racers (which would be actually irrelevant to the total time of each race).

Anyway... the point is simply that an approximately 20 minute difference between an Infineon raceday and a T-hill raceday is basically insignificant and given that we've run 13 races at Infineon in the past, I don't personally see a reason for not having 8 laps per race at T-hill.
 
I added this topic on the AFM site under general. I do not know how to petition this thing so can someone please take it from here? thanks and hope we get it :thumbup I also put it in the board communications
 
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Not that I am in the condition to run an extra 2 laps, yes I know how sad, but last weekend at Bwillow because of the extra daylight they actually ran their day until 6:00 for an extra 10 bucks from any rider who wished to ride. I don't see any reason why the AFM would not be able to work out the same kind of deal. Charge each racer an extra 10 bucks for what ever you want or need to call it and run the day an hour longer. If an overly disliked trackday club, not my feelings but I see these words stated very often about them, can run an extra hour then I don't see why a well oiled machine like the AFM can not work it out as well???
 
In these hard economic times, I want to steer away from charging any extra $$$ for the 2 laps. It just seems to me, that the lap times are very similar at all tracks, then why not make all tracks 8 laps? It just seems that everybody and there mother, whether it be your work, the state, or the feds everything keeps going up. Why can't the AFM give back to its members, and give us this bennefit without any harm to any parties involved or extra exspense to the AFM.
 
Red flags.

Those are probably the 1 hour buffer they are accounting for.

HRCrider said:
In these hard economic times, I want to steer away from charging any extra $$$ for the 2 laps.
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Agreed. I hate to keep comparing, but WERA has a MUCH smaller turn out, yet they are able to run a "For Profit" organization. There is a disconnect somewhere.

To beat a dead horse, the financial should be made available to members, on the AFM website. A cash flow and balance sheet would be nice, so that we could see where the money is going.
 
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Where does WERA race? How much do they pay for track rental?

i know tracks like willow are much cheaper than Sears and Thill.
 
Guys can we keep it on the topic of laps being raced ? And not the clubs finances. Thanks. The reason I mentioned $$ in my post, is because Shawnery did, and I want to steer away from charging the racers more. But as for going off topic about what tracks charge what$$$ lets keep it on the original topic of laps being raced.
 
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HRCrider said:
Guys can we keep it on the topic of laps being raced ? And not the clubs finances. Thanks. The reason I mentioned $$ in my post, is because Shawnery did, and I want to steer away from charging the racers more. But as for going off topic about what tracks charge what$$$ lets keep it on the original topic of laps being raced.
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Unfortunately, that is the bottom line. You can't avoid it. It will come up.

Anyway, while we're going to 8 lap races, I'm in for 10 lap races. That way when we fall short, we won't get 7 lap races. :twofinger
 
Yea, 10 laps would be great, that way those of us that aren't quite up to speed MIGHT get 8 laps. :nerd Warm up and cool down laps don't count.
 
See now you guys are getting all silly, and nobody takes it serious. 10 laps is asking for too much and we all know that would not happen. But 8 just like Sears could work. Lets not get greedy. If they give an inch, lets not take a mile.
 
HRCrider said:
See now you guys are getting all silly, and nobody takes it serious. 10 laps is asking for too much and we all know that would not happen. But 8 just like Sears could work. Lets not get greedy. If they give an inch, lets not take a mile.
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Dammit Timmer... you come up with "7 minute abs" and then these goofballs want "6 minute abs"... step into my office 'cause you're f#@kin FIRED! :rofl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9mioHO4hoM&feature=related
 
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me vote 8

Alex you made coffee go out my nose...:twofinger
 
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