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Another car/SUV thread - Jeep Grand Cherokee vs Dodge Durango

Agreed, I'd never keep a Chrysler product beyond the warranty. Their quality has always been inferior to GM and Ford for as long as I've been alive. Maybe things were different in the 60's or earlier, but I wasn't alive back then so who cares.
 
do people actually buy a SUV for its off road capability, or how it looks like it could go off road?

the picture stan posted a civic could drive on that dirt road.
 
Al Bundy votes for the Dodge.
 

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Reli said:
Agreed, I'd never keep a Chrysler product beyond the warranty. Their quality has always been inferior to GM and Ford for as long as I've been alive. Maybe things were different in the 60's or earlier, but I wasn't alive back then so who cares.
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'98 Dakota I bought with 40k miles on it and put another 100k on it and the only thing I ever replaced was the battery. Regular fluid changes and maintenance and it ran golden, multiple cross country trips in it. Well I mean brakes and stuff too but that's normal.

2010 ram 1500 the only thing that ever failed under warranty was a manifold bolt and the right side mirror auto tilt function. Both fixed, no biggie. 66k miles with no other issues when I sold it. If I get another 6 years and 70k miles or so out of a Durango with similarly few minor issues I'll be happy.
 
I've driven both the Durango and the Grand Cherokee. I didn't like either of them. :twofinger
 
Neither. Frankly you just can't get anything nice for under 100K anymore.
 
There's a reason used Cherokee's are dirt cheap. I told Peggy not to buy one, but it was so darn cheap. $1500 in repairs later it's for sale.
 
explorin said:
do people actually buy a SUV for its off road capability, or how it looks like it could go off road?

the picture stan posted a civic could drive on that dirt road.
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The 4 runner is pretty well known for it's off road capabilities. They are designed with high approach and departure angles in mind.

Some like the body on frame design. (i'm one of them) rather than unibody.

Don't forget rear locker, and crawl control.

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I've heard the Dodge described, by owners of them (I won't own one), as a reasonable engine (even though HEMI is just a sales term now, it isn't a HEMI), weak trans, depending on model, if you get a Cummins diesel truck, the engine will go 300k, easy, but at less than 100k, you'll have a headlight or taillight, or both, that will occassionally blink on and off, one of your power windows won't work any more, a fender will lose a screw or two and will be flapping in the wind, you get the idea. Just not very good build quality.

I owned a former Monterey County Probation '78 Plymouth 4 door with a 318. I was driving down the freeway, right at the 12th Street exit on Hwy 1 near Marina, when the starter engaged at 60 mph or so, big, big grind, then, BAM, something locked up and blew that fucker right off the block, and it was dragging by the wires. I didn't stop, and the car was still running (see, they are kind of tough), and I made it home and was kind of shocked to see the starter dragging on the ground. I called the junkyard and they came and got it, and I think they sent me a check, too. And since Dodge/Chrysler/Plymouth are still exactly the same as in 1978, I don't intend to own another.
 
stan23 said:
Some like the body on frame design. (i'm one of them) rather than unibody.
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I'm kinda mixed on that now. To do the more truck like things such as hauling lots of weight or going off road, then body on frame all the way. But for just driving around in the road like a car, like most SUVs are typically used for? Unibody does make them better for that.

That said, if I were to buy an SUV and I didn't want to take a damn near free RDX from my own store, I'd probably want body on frame just because I like things that are overbuilt.
 
corndog67 said:
And since Dodge/Chrysler/Plymouth are still exactly the same as in 1978, I don't intend to own another.
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Well. There's been some changes.

Three new owners (Daimler, Cerebus, and now Fiat) and Plymouth blinked out of existence. Which other than the Prowler I doubt anyone misses at all.
 
Blankpage said:
The GC is a common rental. Easy enough to take one out for a long run.
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We have an 05 GC, no real complaints in the 3-4 years we have owned it. Gas mileage is crap though

We rented a brand new GC in Hawaii and was very happy with it. Drove well, was quiet, handled well for what it is. Dunno if I would buy brand new though
 
corndog67 said:
I owned a former Monterey County Probation '78 Plymouth 4 door with a 318. I was driving down the freeway, right at the 12th Street exit on Hwy 1 near Marina, when the starter engaged at 60 mph or so, big, big grind, then, BAM, something locked up and blew that fucker right off the block, and it was dragging by the wires. I didn't stop, and the car was still running (see, they are kind of tough), and I made it home and was kind of shocked to see the starter dragging on the ground. I called the junkyard and they came and got it, and I think they sent me a check, too. And since Dodge/Chrysler/Plymouth are still exactly the same as in 1978, I don't intend to own another.
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Ha ha ha I had a 318 too, but only 2-barrel :twofinger It's brakes were fucked up, I think something to do with the master cylinder or the booster. Sometimes they only worked on the 4th or 5th pump. Once I scared a passenger to death as I was coming off the highway. :laughing
 
TheRobSJ said:
I'm kinda mixed on that now. To do the more truck like things such as hauling lots of weight or going off road, then body on frame all the way. But for just driving around in the road like a car, like most SUVs are typically used for? Unibody does make them better for that.

That said, if I were to buy an SUV and I didn't want to take a damn near free RDX from my own store, I'd probably want body on frame just because I like things that are overbuilt.
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There are very few Body on frame SUV's left. Toyota happens to have 2. (4R/Land Cruiser) both are popular with off road guys. No doubt many are street driven only. I like the stiff road feel and the lack of flex. But that's just me.
 
Its nice being able to hit a bumpy patch going around an 80mph sweeper and not have a solid axle rear end bounce you into the next lane.
I'll take the more comfortable better handling unibody suv please.
 
Is their anything out there less reliable than a Chrysler product?

Resale value would suffer I would think.
 
GAJ said:
Is their anything out there less reliable than a Chrysler product?

Resale value would suffer I would think.
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Land Rovers have historically had some god awful reliability.
 
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